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Old September 26, 2008, 12:42 AM   #2001
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Now at over 2000 posts and almost 96,000 views.

Gotta think Marlin did a pretty good job with the 336. I plan on getting one or two more...

Hope to shoot mine tomorrow with more PapaJohn reloads.

Thanks to Nematocyst for starting this thread. I've learned a lot and think others have too. Thanks to everyone who has contributed for helping increase my knowledge.

Hope Nem's work will give him a break someday. Sounds like he has a slave-driver for a boss, but then I was once a business owner and find it more relaxing to be an employee again.

How long until the thread hits 3000?
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Old September 26, 2008, 12:52 AM   #2002
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lol^^

im so happy with my marlin .30-30 im getting ready to pick up an xl7 in .30-06 to take to alaska with me

marlin is one of my favorite brands, they are american made, havent done anything to piss me off (*cough* *bill* *cough* *ruger* *cough*) and most important they have kept their prices decent over the years
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Old September 26, 2008, 04:47 AM   #2003
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Hope Nem's work will give him a break someday. Sounds like he has a slave-driver for a boss...
Man, you got that right.

My boss is a total bastad.


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How fine that we hit 2001!

Long live 336.
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Old September 26, 2008, 02:49 PM   #2004
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Smile I just joined!

I just picked up a Marlin 336 CC!

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Old September 26, 2008, 02:53 PM   #2005
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Saiga39: I'm a big fan of walnut but somehow that looks pretty cool to me.
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Old September 26, 2008, 03:27 PM   #2006
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Yeah, I searched all over and have waited quite a while for one of these to show up somewhere.

My Deer rifle search is finally settled. I've posted numerous "Should I get a ...." type of posts here on THR looking for peoples opinions.

Now I'll be looking to see what ammo is best for this.
I'm sure I'll find something in the 70+ pages of posts about this.
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Old September 26, 2008, 03:33 PM   #2007
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Nem, Congrats on 2000!

It is so good to see The 336 Club faring well.

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Old September 26, 2008, 04:28 PM   #2008
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Thanks, fiVe.
By the way, we're overdue for a report on your 336 activity.

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Now I'll be looking to see what ammo is best for this.
Saiga, do a search in this thread on "papajohn". Look for the PapaJohn rnd or PapaJohn (re)load. Rumor has it that's as good as it gets.

Also, can you please offer us more about that stock? Brand? Composition? Price? Source?
I'm like Mo: love my wood furniture, but when I first started looking for a 336,
I was considering putting something like that on it.

Got any higher resolution pics?

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Old September 26, 2008, 08:54 PM   #2009
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The papajohn load is acceptable, let alone best, for deer hunting? I find this quite hard to believe...
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Old September 26, 2008, 10:02 PM   #2010
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Many years ago, when I was 12 and the dinosaurs still roamed, my dad bought me a 336 30-30 saddle ring carbine. When I was 19 it was sold for something else . I have regretted it every since.

Four years ago my dad died and I was given his newer model 336 (has the push button safety) in .35 remington. I have the 14 point non-typical buck hanging on my wall that he killed with it in 1989.

This year, for my belated 50th birthday, me, and my dad's rifle will be going to the woods together for the first time. I'm sure he will be there in spirit.
This 336 will never leave my hands till it's my turn to meet my maker.

Wish us luck.
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Old September 27, 2008, 12:21 AM   #2011
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Good story, Coyote. Good luck on your hunt. Keep us posted.

Jeep, I'm pretty scattered these days with work stuff ,
so if I mis-spoke about the PJ load, I'm definitely willing to be corrected.

I don't always pay close attention (cause I'm not a reloader).
Was that round for range practice or ... something else?
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Old September 27, 2008, 01:26 AM   #2012
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I'm a reloader, but a beginner at it.

I was not taking you to task, just asking. IIRC, most folks use a 150-gr projectile whether lead or jacketed, for hunting deer. Don't think a ball of buckshot fits that idea.

Hey, if I'm wrong I'm wrong- and VERY happy about it, as my ammo needs for deer hunting just got downright cheap. As it is I need to get to work casting some lead and loading up some rounds for my rifle.

To the best of my limited knowledge, the PJ is suited for target and varmint usage.
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Old September 27, 2008, 02:54 AM   #2013
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Jeep,

I finally got a night off, so decided to get to the bottom of this PapaJohn load (TM) question.

Finally found the answer back on P. 63 in this post.

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I scooped up 2.2cc of IMR-4895 in a Lee scoop, dumped it in the case, mashed a bullet into place, and Factory-Crimped it. The next trip to the range was equally gratifying, and the Papajohn load was born.

Personally, I think the 150 will do anything the 170's will unless you're going after elk or big bears. The Papajohn load is intended to be a deer-basher extraordinaire, that also works on smaller stuff.
You're right that we have talked also about using buckshot for a small game load, but that isn't the PapaJohn load (TM).

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Old September 27, 2008, 03:02 AM   #2014
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Handloads

The PapaJohn load uses a 150 grain Remington Core-Lokt bullet with 30.2 grains/ 2.2 cc of IMR 4895 powder in a 30-30 case.

I have only loaded two batches so far and only shot one, but I'm guessing they would work fine for deer where I live in Western Washington.

While Papajohn might load some other buckshot loads, his signature load should work just fine on deer. If you do find a better one I for one would like to hear about it. Always looking for more BANG for my buck
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Old September 27, 2008, 03:29 AM   #2015
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Old September 28, 2008, 03:02 AM   #2016
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Relatively new THR member has asked a question:

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Howdy! Which do yall prefer, the 35 Rem or 30/30?
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Old September 28, 2008, 07:26 PM   #2017
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Jeep,

I finally got a night off, so decided to get to the bottom of this PapaJohn load (TM) question.

Finally found the answer back on P. 63 in this post.

Quote:
I scooped up 2.2cc of IMR-4895 in a Lee scoop, dumped it in the case, mashed a bullet into place, and Factory-Crimped it. The next trip to the range was equally gratifying, and the Papajohn load was born.

Personally, I think the 150 will do anything the 170's will unless you're going after elk or big bears. The Papajohn load is intended to be a deer-basher extraordinaire, that also works on smaller stuff.
You're right that we have talked also about using buckshot for a small game load, but that isn't the PapaJohn load (TM).
thanks guys, that's timely advice.

Will this work with cast bullets as well? I just shot off the majority of a box of Winchester- two duds in the box!!! NOT amused. I would like to use this to load up a couple hundred rounds for range time.

This was the first trip to the range with the rifle, BTW. First shot, through the scope at about 40 yards: I homed in, squeezed off the round, and was rewarded with a punch to the eye!

@#%#&$@%~!!!!!!

Learned to hold my head back a bit, and did fine after. Oh, the first shot? Dead-on in the center!
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Old September 28, 2008, 08:09 PM   #2018
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i like the .30-30 buts its jsut a personal thing the .35 fires a bigger bullet and at a faster speed i believe
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Old September 29, 2008, 05:30 PM   #2019
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Can I paly? Have been a fan of the 336 since dad gave a new one for Christmas when I was 13 years old. Back in the 70's I reckon. Anywho here is a few of the straight stocked models.

Top is the 336 Texan .35 then the 336 Texan Saddle ring crbine 30-30, and the last is the 30TK 30-30.

I have another straight stocked model or two but I already posted some on another thread or two.

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Old September 29, 2008, 08:39 PM   #2020
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Straight stock 336's

Hi georgeky,
A warm welcome to the Model 336 Club and u most certainly can play with those puppies. They are beautiful and so is the hilt half hiding at the bottom of the picture. Sit back and enjoy a great group of shootists with a wealth of information they are more than willing to share and stories that vary from amazing to hilarious to heartening but never boring.
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Old September 30, 2008, 01:09 AM   #2021
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Was the 336 ever made in a trapper model, ie 16" barrle?
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Old September 30, 2008, 02:13 AM   #2022
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Do most of you have scopes on your 336s or do you shoot with open sights? Which ever, what type of scope or open sight do you use?
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Old September 30, 2008, 02:15 AM   #2023
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Dagnabit georgeky.....

That picture of the TK just cost me some hard earned bucks!

I have never seen that model before, but I think I might have just found one in a local store...

Marlinitist strikes again!

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Old September 30, 2008, 03:47 AM   #2024
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The 30TK is a great little carbine. I carry it in the truck, horseback and on the tractor with me. It is what some would call my work rifle. The 18 1/2 inch barrel is easy to poke right out the truck window if you need it quick.

The 30TK was a contract gun for Kmart. They were made from about 1988 until 1990 give or take. I bought this gun new in 89 for 189.00 dollars. I have sold it twice and made a little money both times and got it back both times. I will never sell it again.


Kentucky-roughrider, the Marlin Marauder/336T came with a 16 1/4 inch barrel. Was available in 30-30 and .35 Rem. They are hard to come by and a bit pricey most the time. There was one in 30-30 on Gunbroker last night. Might still be there. Think they also made a 336 LTS with the short barrel.
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Old September 30, 2008, 03:49 AM   #2025
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Georgeky, welcome indeed. Such fine looking guns. I so rarely think of "336" and "straight stock" in the same description. Those are very cool. And I'm learning new model numbers. Never even heard of the TK.

What are the rear sights on that TK?

Jerry, I shouldn't even chime in on my sights because I've not used them enough yet, haven't even correctly sighted them yet (been a very, very busy year for me, way too little range time).

I've got XS ghost rings on my 336A, but intend to put a scope on it. Still leaning towards a scout scope, but ... really not quite sure yet. I may wind up putting the ghost ring on my 1894C, but still thinking I'll leave it on the 336 as a "back up" (even though not sure I'll really ever need back ups if I have a good scope).
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