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Old August 5, 2009, 11:50 PM   #2226
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velojym - mine feed fine from the magazine. Only the 1894's need the "Marlin Fix" is my understanding. Never heard of the "Jam" happening to an 336/1895
Hmm, ok. So, I'm not so worried about the "Marlin Fix", but I guess I oughta contact Marlin before grinding on anything. When I cycle a round, the shoulder catches on the chamber lip, and I have to work the action pretty firmly to get it past. Leaves a bit of a dent on the case's shoulder.
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Old August 14, 2009, 08:09 PM   #2227
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Velojym, when new, mine had the same issue.

If you start here and read forward a few pages (I offered several updates),
you'll find what I did to remedy the situation with a home tune up.

It took me a couple of days and wasn't even close to what a gunsmith might have accomplished, but it significantly and notably improved my action. One of the things I did was to smooth that chamber lip just a tiny bit with some emery cloth, just enough to let the next rnd slip in with a reasonably fast but not forceful rack.
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Old August 14, 2009, 08:39 PM   #2228
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A question about XS ghost ring sights

I'll tell more of this story later when I get some time.

Briefly, for now, I went to the range (a new one that I like much better than the old) with my shooting buddy this morning.
This was the first time at the range in ... oh, way, way too long. (I don't even want to admit it; too painful, even a little embarrassing. Blame self-employment.)

Took the 336 (along with 39A & some of my friends cool rifles ... another story entirely). Only had a little time with the 336, unfortunately.

I'm getting close to the time that I get it cut down, and wanted to shoot it one more time full length, and also to try out the replacement taller front site that XS sent me months ago for the ghost rings. (If you read back in the archives, you'll find that the first site they sent was for an older 336; made the rifle shoot 8 - 11" high.)

This one does much better with elevation. (See attached image; 50 yds). The only two relevant holes on that page are the two in the center line. (The other two are a .223.)

I need to learn now how to form the sight picture. I suspect already that I need to put more of the post into the sight image to bring the shots up, although now they're quite low at 50 yds, and need to be slightly high.

But here's my main concern now.
With rear sight centered in it's track, it was hitting far left, almost off the larger target behind this one. I had to adjust it so that it so far to the right as to be nearly out of its track. It seems to be almost absurdly far to the right. (See other image; apologies for crappy image; digicam does poorly with close ups.)

Is that a common thing? Am I doing something wrong here? I paid close attention to where the front post was in the GR: as centered as I could get it.
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Another topic for another day: this is making me rethink the XS GR sights. After shooting it today, I'm wondering if I'd be better off with either a set of Skinner's, or maybe even a peep sight. I realize that I'm more prone to want a bit more accuracy and better sight image than the XS may be capable of.

Won't draw any conclusions until I shoot it again at least once, but just thinking.
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Old August 14, 2009, 09:05 PM   #2229
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Terribly sorry if this has been discussed previously - 90 pages and not enough time!

Has anyone seen or heard about the new 336DL?

I just saw it on Marlin's site. Apparently you get finer walnut, a hand turned action, and a hard case. (You also get a forend cap instead of the 336C's barrel band.)

Seems pretty neat. I was trying to decide between a 336C and a 308MX - now this. Decisions!

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...uxe_models.asp
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Old August 14, 2009, 11:08 PM   #2230
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Those DLs are news to me, SGW. I don't know of anyone around here that has been discussing them ... yet, but I'll bet they will now.
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Old August 15, 2009, 07:01 PM   #2231
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Went to a gun show and the only two gun shops in town I still trust and I didn't see one and no one had heard of it.

The last shop took my phone number and said he would call me when he gets a chance to talk to his supplier. I figure if I'm going to have to order the darn thing, make mine a 336DL. So chances are good I may be the first.
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Old August 15, 2009, 09:36 PM   #2232
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Unfortunately economic circumstances require me to part with a few rifles. I'd like to keep them in the family so I'll offer them here first. I have 5 30-30's so that is where I'm going to thin the herd.

1- Marlin 336 SDT. Stainless limited production trapper. It has been to the range a few times but never hunted - basically as new. box and paperwork included. $650 plus shipping (usually less than $40) I'd like to hang on to this one... Show at bottom of picture. DEAL PENDING WITH PINE CONE

2- Marlin 336 CB in 30-30. 24" octagon barrel. there is a ding in stock near tang. $750 plus shipping. This rifle is the second rifle up from the bottom in the picture.



More pictures available to those interested.

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Old August 16, 2009, 02:05 AM   #2233
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Mo, sorry to hear of the economic bad times. I can relate, bro.

I'll bet those beauties will find a good home, though. Wish I could afford to take that 24" octagon for a while (then maybe sell it back to you once your fortunes get better), but I just can't right now.

What's the barrel length on that trapper? Never heard of a trapper (I think). If I was a stainless fan, I might get it, too (but I think I'm gonna just cut my blued one down instead; that trapper may actually be shorter than I think I want... would love to hear how it shoots at 100 yards sometime if you get the time.)
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Old August 17, 2009, 12:06 AM   #2234
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This should be an interesting poll on Marlin 336 v Winchester 94.
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Old August 18, 2009, 01:17 AM   #2235
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Nem -

Good to hear you got a chance to actually do a little target shooting for a change, but it sounds like you had issues with both Marlins.

Your ghost ring experience sounds all wrong. Looking at the pictures you posted it seems very hard to believe that you would need to move the rear sight windage that much. Do you still have the original rear sight on the gun?

If it were me I'd see what the old sights did, but it really does sound like your front has to be off or else there is a small black hole lodged between the front and rear sights which keeps bending the light. If the black hole is the problem you could make a small fortune selling it to NASA and then fund all the guns you want...

Keep us informed as to your progress. With my Marlins it seems pretty clear that if the gun doesn't shoot right it is more than likely it's some stupid thing I did and not any serious problem with the rifle.

Good luck and don't forget to go to the range again real soon...
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Old August 21, 2009, 09:12 PM   #2236
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New 336 owner. And i have a couple questions

I just picked up a 336A. Always wanted a lever action and i dont think i did to bad at $325. The guy i bought it from said it is unfired. And there is no wear and tear so i am going to have to agree with that. So my first question is the serial number is 9203xxxx what year was i manufactured?

My next question is the gun appears to have a factory scope and from what marlins website said that could be a true stament. Has anyone had any experience with these scopes are they very accurate?
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Old August 21, 2009, 09:36 PM   #2237
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336 take down?

Has anyone seen a "take-down" 336? Savage made take-down 99. Winchester had a take-down model 92.
A 16.5 barrel 336 take-down would make dandy rifle.
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Old August 21, 2009, 09:41 PM   #2238
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Precurser to the 336....

Marlin 1893, 30-30 t/d with 20 in bbl.

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Old August 21, 2009, 09:56 PM   #2239
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That's cool. I really want one of the old take downs.

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Old August 22, 2009, 01:12 AM   #2240
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Oops. Posted in the wrong thread.
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Old August 22, 2009, 10:20 AM   #2241
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I thin Wild West Guns ( http://www.wildwestguns.com/index.html ) does custom Marlin takedown conversions (at least on the 1895's). If I had an extra rifle and the money (I think it is around $600) I'd do it. That would be a handy and versatile bug out rifle...
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Old August 26, 2009, 10:36 PM   #2242
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Here is mine. It's just a plain jane 336A with a birch stock. I stripped the original finish, stained it, and finished with boiled linseed oil. Topped it with a 2-7x Nikon Monarch and Talley rings.




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Old August 26, 2009, 11:34 PM   #2243
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Chavist, that's quite nice, and unique. Personally, I have a fondness for birch.
May not be as exotic as walnut, but I like it. Harder too.

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Old September 2, 2009, 09:08 PM   #2244
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Old September 5, 2009, 09:33 PM   #2245
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is the ejector only held in place by the bolt? my grandpa gave me his 336 and i had only done basic cleaning down the end of the barrel, and such. i decided to take the bolt out the other day and do a really thorough cleaning, and didn't notice till today when i went to load a round from the magazine and the round wouldn't chamber all the way. i pulled the round out to see the ejector had gone into the end of the barrel. i had assumed it was secured in place and didn't notice it came out of place when i put the bolt back in. so, is this how it is held in place, by the bolt, and nothing is missing?
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Old September 5, 2009, 10:15 PM   #2246
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Wessessiah,

Welcome to the club.

Do you have a manual for your 336?

If not, download this one. I'll be easier for us to help you with your questions if we can be very precise.

You should read it anyway, to get the basics of take down & reassembly.

Once you look through that, let us know, and tell us the exact name and part number for that bolt you speak of. Then, somebody can help you better.

(Others may help you without it, but I prefer to work through that manual when offering advice.)

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Old September 5, 2009, 11:53 PM   #2247
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no manual, my grandpa bought it in the 60's... by bolt i mean what the lever connects to and pushes the round into the chamber. i guess this part is also called an ejector even though it has an ejector on the bolt itself. what i'm talking about is the spring like ejector that pushes the round out of the reciever when you pull the lever down and the bolt moves back. thanks for the welcome and online manual, i'll check it out.
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Old September 5, 2009, 11:57 PM   #2248
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ok, so what i experienced is normal... after looking at that manual, page 9 figure m shows the ejector i was talking about... thanks again for that manual.
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Old September 6, 2009, 08:53 PM   #2249
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Precurser to the 336....

Marlin 1893, 30-30 t/d with 20 in bbl.
Cool. Here's my take-down 1893 in .30-30. Owned by my great grandfather.
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Old September 6, 2009, 09:39 PM   #2250
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Micro- That is AWESOME! Beautiful! I bet the only thing that would make it look prettier is a picture of it propped up on a buck it just harvested. Thanks for sharing that.
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