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Old April 5, 2013, 07:14 AM   #4126
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ebay has a Williams F-P 39 for $45.00 said to have a tensile strength of 85,000 pounds.Fits most Model 39's
That's an excellent price as the Lyman was $100!

PS-the Lyman has 2 screw-in apertures, one for hunting and one for target shooting, not sure about the Williams.
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Old April 5, 2013, 07:04 PM   #4127
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Williams makes two receiver sights for the Marlin 39-A and one other that's for new rifles that are not drilled for receiver sights, but are drilled for scope mounts.
That sight mounts to the scope mount screws on top of the receiver.

The other two receiver sights are the 5D that has adjustments that are made by loosening gib lock screws and sliding the sight.
The other is the Foolproof that has internal click adjustments.
You can also buy it with Target knobs or buy the knobs separate.

Williams also offer a variety of size apertures for the sights.
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Old April 5, 2013, 08:29 PM   #4128
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What do you Williams and Lyman guys think of Skinners for 39's?

Those are what I intend to put on mine. For me, not a precision shooter - long as I can hit the squirrel in vital area, I'm good. And for me, from there, it's as much about sleek lines and low profile as anything, but I'm curious about how they rank for precision with the Lyman and Williams.
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Old April 6, 2013, 11:23 AM   #4129
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Just like Christmas

Our weekly grocery run now includes a stop at our favorite sporting goods store not named Cabelas. Every time I'm there my eyes wander over the nearly empty shelves of reloading components looking for what I might need. It occurred to me that this is just like Christmas. You don't know for sure what you are going to get and sometimes pleasantly surprised.

Occasionally, I wished I ran a 300 whinny or a .338 super duper pooper, there's always a good selection of heavy bullets that work great for magnums, alas powder for those cartridges has been in short supply. I like to practice with bullets similar with what I use for hunting and I have developed an affinity for Hornaday's SST interlocks for practice, apparently so has everyone else. I have several .308's to feed and I believe my children should maintain some shooting proficiency, so now I buy bullets (when available) for them that I formerly sniffed at.

I should take up shot shell reloading, the shelves are always full of shotgun powders, however until last weekend shot was non-existent. I'm using a progressive press now and my old standby powders have been causing me a pain in the neck, so I am learning to use powders designed for progressive's that I have little knowledge of and certainly no experience. This weekend the shelves were full of my favorite IMR standbys..., every one of them.

After choosing 2 boxes of 55gr.sp (the limit) and 2 cans of powder (the limit) to try on .308's knowing full well that I will end up using the last of my 1895C 45/70 (H335) powder to finish up a .223 project I ambled over to the area where once upon a time 22LR was stocked. I saw 22WMR was even sold out and only a few boxes of 17HMR remained, turning around I spied a dozen boxes of CCI Stingers sitting on a counter top for $6.98 a piece. Feeling guilty that I had spent enough this week I left them alone.

About a month ago while standing in the checkout line I overheard a store employee explain to an unhappy customer why 22LR is currently unavailable. He said the profit margin for 22LR is around 4 to 5 cents per box while the profit margin of loaded ammo is closer to 4 to 5 dollars per box. No manufacturer will gear up for 22LR as long as demand for loaded ammo remains as high as it is. Explains a lot. I put a scope on my 39A this winter and look forward to using it. I just wont go hog wild shooting up my stash until the current situation changes.

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Old April 6, 2013, 04:16 PM   #4130
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Welcome in, Snuff, to both the 39 Club and THR. Fine first post.

Interesting story with a lesson for us all.

May we live in interesting times, as the ancient curse goes.
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Old April 6, 2013, 04:22 PM   #4131
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Marlin 1892

A few days ago, upon my query, Tinky sent me a pic of his (former) 1892 that was in prime condition (90% he says) when he sold it.

He said it would be OK to post it here. I'll let him tell the story.

Wow. What a beautiful and historic rifle. The stories it could tell.

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Old April 7, 2013, 08:03 AM   #4132
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After installing my Lyman sight, I am wondering if those that have "peep" sights have a front sight hood on their rifle. My rifle was missing the hood since I bought it 20 years ago and now I'm wondering if a hood would cut down on the sun glare I sometimes have while shooting on a bright day. Also, does a hood improve or distract from the peep sight "picture"? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Ron
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Old April 7, 2013, 11:33 AM   #4133
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I used to have the hood on mine. I use a Skinner peep, and I actually liked having the hood; you could use the outline to make sure you have everything "centered". It provided another point of reference for the sight picture.

I had a Skinner front post installed later on, and it is too tall for the hood. I could probably file it down enough to accomodate it, and I might one day. I personally have had no glare problems without the hood.


You can certainly get by either way.
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Old April 8, 2013, 09:53 AM   #4134
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Well, tomorrow, I will be taking the metal portion of my rifle to the gunsmith for a strip down, cleaning, repairing, and reblueing. I have the wood and will sand it a bit to remove scratches and will satin polyurethane it when done. I've done other wood working, so I am confident in it. Now, it will be awhile before the metal parts are done, but when finished, I will post the results.

Your input. Since I DO have to replace the finger lever, . . . is it generally considered "a bit hokey" to get a larger loop lever? Should I just stick with the traditional type finger lever? I like the looks of it on the grizzly website, but then, that one is a highly modified rifle. I like it, but not if mine SHOULD remain like the original.

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Old April 8, 2013, 12:19 PM   #4135
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I think that you are making the right decision Orion, hope it turns out! Definitely post pictures. I read through the first 50 pages of this thread, what a great clubhouse. I am going to keep plugging through as time permits...

I got a box of small parts in the mail yesterday for my project rifle, including a magazine tube and several screws. I am still on the hunt for a new butt stock (got delayed a little on that because someone stole my road bike last week, so a new road bike that I can't afford jumps to the top of the purchase list... thanks, thief...).

Anyway, I digress. I decided to redo the bluing because of the unsightly scratches on the side of the receiver. After researching and reading a bunch, I am going to have a go at rust bluing. That seems like the most cost effective and highest quality finish option. I will post before and after pictures of my little shooter once I get her blued and put back together!
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Old April 8, 2013, 02:20 PM   #4136
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Looking forward to your pics, HC. Sounds like a great project.

Orion, there are three words that I try to stay away from using: would, could and should.

It's your rifle. You've rescued it at great personal expense. I - for one - think you have a right to do what ever you want with it (short of a pink stock, but if you were so inclined, I'd have no beef with that either, especially if it was for your daughter).

If this was a priceless collectors edition in 95% condition, it'd be different.

But it's not. It's a beater that's trying to regain its dignity with your help.

I say, do as you wish.
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Old April 8, 2013, 02:22 PM   #4137
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I suppose that would be the best way to look at it. Thanks!
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Old April 9, 2013, 07:09 PM   #4138
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1892 Marlin

If you are interested I saw a Marlin 1892 at Mega Sports in Farmington Mo today if y'all interested, their number is 573-756 8999
Looked decent to me, call em if ya want
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Old April 11, 2013, 10:47 AM   #4139
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Well, . . . it resides at the gunsmith shop, . . . and because he's good at his work, thus backed up, . . . he said it would be done "sometime in the Fall". But if it looks as good as I'm hoping, I am willing to wait.

I already have de-scratched the wood, have been applying some lemon oil on the wood [a few coats] before polyurethaning it. They are looking real good!

I'll also be going with a Williams. So, it will be a while before I post here again, but when I do [before and after shots], it should be worth the wait.
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Old April 11, 2013, 06:25 PM   #4140
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he said it would be done "sometime in the Fall". But if it looks as good as I'm hoping, I am willing to wait.
Laughs. You must live in Eugene, OR. I know a gunsmith there that is that popular and that good, but repairs can take that long.

But good on you that you've done this and are willing to wait. Will eagerly await the outcome with you. In the meantime, hang out with us anyway. I dont' have my 39 (haven't seen it for almost three years now), but I'm still here.
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Old April 11, 2013, 08:56 PM   #4141
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Yeah, he's well known in these parts. Very busy guy.

Okay, I'll stick around. And again, I hope you can find a way to get yours back to you.
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Old April 11, 2013, 08:59 PM   #4142
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I not going away either.....
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Old April 11, 2013, 09:07 PM   #4143
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Good. That settles it. We're not going away.

Now, what to do about this .22 ammo shortage issue?

At least we don't have to deal with the high cap magazine crisis.
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Old April 11, 2013, 09:28 PM   #4144
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So, because you brought up "bans on magazines", if they DID set that up as a new law, are tube magazines exempt from them?
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Old April 11, 2013, 09:45 PM   #4145
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Orion;

Never underestimate the stupidity of a politician. If it ain't broke, they will "fix" it anyway.

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Old April 11, 2013, 09:58 PM   #4146
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are tube magazines exempt from them?
Short answer, yes.

Tubes have to be fed one at a time, manually.

They've been around since I was a kid. (50's).

No worries. Mostly.
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Old April 12, 2013, 08:38 AM   #4147
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tubular mags

That brings a question to mind. How long have tubular mags been around? And are the .22 rifles the first to have them? I have an old Marlin 81, no serial number or letters, with a tube. I am told it was manufactured between 1937 and 1942. I also have a little Remington 12a with a tube that was made in February of 1931. I know some of the old lever guns made in the 1890s, and probably before that, were tube-fed. Historians! Any out there? This may not be the proper site to ask this; but it has been brought up, so---. lol I love this forum! It's so GREAT!!
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Old April 12, 2013, 11:58 AM   #4148
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Texas;

Check out the Henry rifles made during the Civil War. They had tube magazines. I've held one in my hands & had the opportunity to examine it.

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Old April 12, 2013, 11:17 PM   #4149
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It's seldom possible to positively identify the FIRST time a feature was used on a gun, but the earliest tubular magazine firearms I can remember were the Volcanic rifles and pistols of the 1850's.

These lever action rifles and pistols fired "Meteor Balls" which were a conical bullet with a small percussion cap in them as propellant.

The Volcanic became the rim fire Henry, which investor Oliver Winchester bought out the other owners, Misters Smith & Wesson, and started the Winchester company with the first model being the Winchester Model 1866.
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Old April 13, 2013, 03:21 AM   #4150
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DF, that's fascinating and totally cool!

(I don't say it often enough, but it's really great to have you as part of this club - with other fascinating minds here - because you have such a wealth of knowledge about history and technical details. Thanks for sharing with us for these years. )

Had to do a bit more reading about this interesting little bit of history. Here's wiki's take on it.
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