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Old August 7, 2007, 12:19 AM   #426
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More 39 porn will be on the way, but it'll be a while.

As soon as the Octagon is here, I'll shoot a picture of that and the new 39A. It'll be interesting to see 34 years' difference.

Apart from features, there isn't much. Marlin does build their guns just like they used to.
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Old August 7, 2007, 12:26 AM   #427
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Really looking forward to seeing that Octagon, A'Bear.

Have never seen one before.
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Old August 7, 2007, 04:46 PM   #428
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I put a Marble's Peep Tang sight on my 1950 39A because I didn't want to scope it but had I to do something. Older eyes I guess.

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When I sighted it in I got to 2.5 in groups at 50 yards. What's puzzling is that I have the Peep Tang adjusted way left. I figured it must be me so to check used a lazer bore sight on it to see if it lined up. It's dead on.
If you have used all of your peep/tang adjustment, move your front sight the opposite direction, in your case to the right as you are sighting from rear to front. A brass drift punch and small hammer will do fine for this, place gun on it's side, front of barrel on something solid(small block of wood) and tap hard enough to get a little movement. Shoot and adjust rear sight and center as you want using the front sight for windage.

With some of the old tang sights this was the only way to adjust windeage.
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Old August 16, 2007, 02:23 AM   #429
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I miss my 39,
which is still at the gun smith's
having that firing pin repair job ...
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Old August 16, 2007, 06:54 PM   #430
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What Nem, Only got one? You need a couple back up 39's don't ya.
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Old August 16, 2007, 07:12 PM   #431
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<smiles>

Naw, Rick. To each his own, but one is plenty for me.

I could tell you stories about why, but I'll spare you ... at least for now.
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Old August 18, 2007, 08:02 PM   #432
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I'd like to join your 39a club. I haven't kept up much with THR, had to re-activate my member name since I use it so rarely but this Marlin 39a club peaked my interest.

I have been wanting a Marlin 39a for several years and last year the movie "A Christmas Story" came on and my wife and kids (two teenagers) watched it with me. Afterwards I told them "I want a Marlin Golden 39a .22 caliber lever action rifle with the walnut stock" and it kind of became a joke around the house. My wife looked everywhere for one and couldn't find one. The local pawn shop even made a bunch of calls for her with no luck. I was quite bummed out knowing that it may be another year before I got one.

Christmas morning we were up early and the kids got all sorts of good gifts, I got some cool motorcycle gear, to feed my other passion. My wife got some good jewelry, everyone was happy and life was good when she says "honey, I think Santa left another present... there, behind the desk." Holy Cow, it's a Marlin Golden 39a .22 caliber lever action rifle with the walnut stock!! She totally pulled one over on me, seems Gibson's the next town over had ONE in stock and she got it without me knowing. Best Christmas ever!

Absolutely love the gun and everything about it except the sights. I have been wondering what to do, tried a scope but that didn't look right and made the gun too heavy for just plinking. I learned to shoot with an M-16 and got good with an AR-15 using the peep sight, and the buckhorn sight just doesn't do it for me. Luckily I found this thread and the Skinner sight was brought up and it looks like the best thing for it. Other peep sights either need to be drilled and tapped, which I don't want to do, or just don't look right hanging off the side. So it looks like Skinner sights for me in the near future.

I found this thread three days ago and have been reading through it since. Lots of good information here and I hope I can contribute as well.

Regards, Jeff
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Old August 18, 2007, 08:41 PM   #433
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Welcome back Jeff. My wife and I enjoy the movie. 39A's are great rifles. Today at the gun shop, I looked at an old Marlin 81 DL with a peep site. The last few years I have been having trouble with the rear sites (out of focus) on regular open site rifles. I can see that the peep site could be the answer. I also have some guns with military sites and I like the mititary type sites. I have an AR with a red dot and it kicks butt. I will have to check into Skinner.

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Old August 18, 2007, 09:53 PM   #434
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was a 39M owner for most of my life (from age 11 or so), and selling that rifle was THE biggest mistake of my life, not resulting in some form of bodily injury. And once my wife found out my 1911 got traded with it, even THAT was possible for a short time.

Compunding my mistake is the fact that when i sold it, I skipped a step in what i had intended to do and forgot to remove the Lyman receiver sight that was on it. which was a heirloom!
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Old August 19, 2007, 05:11 AM   #435
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Lever lovers,
opinions requested.
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Old August 20, 2007, 07:54 PM   #436
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Question

Would anyone be interested in a postcard match?

The rules would be simple, three rounds at 20 yards into a 3x5 index card with an X marked on it. Everyone would then send their card to a judge who then passes out bragging rights. It is totally on the honor system, just write down on the card the gun and ammo used, and send it in.

I saw this done at the H & R Firearms forums before they quit hosting forums, and it looked like a lot of fun although I never did participate. So what do you say, anyone in? Anyone want to judge? Am I nuts for suggesting this?

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Old August 20, 2007, 09:42 PM   #437
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That doesn't sound "nuts" to me at all, Jeff. Sounds like fun.

I hope we can leave the contest open for a while, though, or maybe do it more than once, cause my 39 is still in the shop (starting to get a weee bit concerned ...), and even once I get it back, I've got a lot of sighting work to do (still very new to me).

But I'll play along later when I can.

I might suggest one minor addition. Why not do some initial trials using digital image results posted here (or to a separate thread if you wish; doesn't matter to me).

So, do your groups, then place an easily read ruler next to the holes in some consistent pattern (e.g., the 1" mark on center of one hole, etc ... whatever standard measurement protocol is ...).

Have the X obviously best groups sent to an unbiased judge for final determination if necessary.

("If necessary": I know that if I participate, I'll just make one small, ragged hole of tiny dimension ... )

And if you believe that, I've got a nice bridge for sale cheap.
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Old August 20, 2007, 10:02 PM   #438
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Here is a website that might interest Lever-Gun Maniacs:
http://www.leverguns.com/Default.htm
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Old August 21, 2007, 12:16 AM   #439
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The shooting match sounds like fun, but I have a suggestion.

Because I can only shoot at a gun range (I live in the city)
I'm limited to shooting at the distances the range is set up for.

I suspect that there are many folks with this same situation.

Because of this, I think 20 yards is not a good distance for a contest.

Shouldn't we stick to the standard 25,50, and 100?
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Old August 21, 2007, 12:22 AM   #440
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Good point, Frank.

I agree.

Jag, you OK with that?

Could even be fun to have three shot groups at each: 25, 50, 100.

Guess there'd be a grand prize if someone took top spot in all three.

(Annie Oakley, you around?
Oh, wait: with her, we'd have to add another component:
Cutting the card in half in mid air at 25 yds ... )
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Old August 21, 2007, 06:57 AM   #441
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I think the contest is a great idea! I'm in.

Would the contest allow for shooting multiple targets and sending/posting the best one or do you get one shot at it (so to speak) on a "Declared" target?

Another suggestion, instead of a prize(s) a recognition of level of achievement could be awarded. example:

-Three hits at 20-25 yards anywhere on the 3x5 card ranks you as a Tenderfoot
-Three hits within 1.5" of center ranks you as a Saddle Tramp
-Three hits within 1" of center ranks you as a Buckaroo
-Three hits within 0.75" of center ranks you as a Cowboy
-Three hits within 0.50" of center ranks you as a Scout
-Three hits within 0.25" of center ranks you as a Trail Boss
-Three hits within 0.125" of center gets you into "the order of the Duke"

I'm sure others will have better suggestions for the rankings. It could also be adjusted for other ranges, offhand shooting and or open sights/optics.
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Old August 21, 2007, 12:52 PM   #442
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Postcard match

Since I first came up with the idea I have been mulling it around and refineing it.

25 yards would be fine with me, if you have to you can go longer, but the scoring shouldn't change. I would like to limit it to just one minimun distance to make judging simpler.

I also think we need to make it in two classes, glass and no-glass, just so somone with open sights dosen't have to compeat with a $1200 Swarovski scope.

Mo, I love the idea of a ranking, I would be happy to be a tenderfoot myself.

I'm at work, working on a set of rules for this but I will post them later and we can refine it over the next few days. Once we agree on the rules, we can start a new thread with a sign up sheet, deadline, rules, etc. in that thread so to not clutter this one up too much.

I would be happy to judge it, but I don't want to post my address so people would have to PM me and I would send the address that way.

Sounds like fun to me, I hope we can get a few more involved. About 20 people would be perfect.

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Old August 21, 2007, 04:00 PM   #443
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This contest sounds great, folks.

Good to have a new member "in charge" of set up. Setting it up here, discussing rules, evaluation, etc, then moving the announcement to a new thread sounds ideal. We can even discuss results in here as we wish, but having it in a new thread may encourage others.

Oh, speaking of a new thread ... Jeff, when I first read this yesterday, I (not necessarily correctly) envisioned this as a contest of Marlin 39s (A, M, etc) because it's posted in this thread.

But if we set it up in a separate thread in rifle country, will there be any restrictions on what gun is used? Marlin 39A? 39M? Shortened 39A? Any lever action? Any action?

My suggestion is that we make it a lever gun match (cause we'll likely beat the semis but fall to the bolts), but in any case, we should be clear about that.
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Old August 21, 2007, 06:06 PM   #444
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The contest sounds like fun. We could do our own for Marlin 39s, but if it caught on with other clubs or in general all the better.

I think separating by action as Nem has suggested seems like a good move. Also, you'd probably want to be sure to specify stock as opposed to custom, and maybe even traditional sights (peeps included) as opposed to scopes.


Unfortunately I don't get to do much shooting nowadays, so my participation would be limited at best.
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Old August 21, 2007, 06:53 PM   #445
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Well, while we're in the suggestion mode...

I propose that rule #1 be Marlin Model 39 ONLY.

I've seen where other groups start in with "OK, that gun is similar".

And then it leads to "How come he can shoot and I can't"

Since this is the 39 club, I think we can be selective.

What say guys?
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Old August 21, 2007, 07:18 PM   #446
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The Marlin 39 Club Postcard Match

Here are the rules as I have envisioned this thing taking shape. I am sure there are things that I haven't thought of so let me hear about it. I want to keep this just for the Marlin 39 club to start with, but who knows, maybe we could do a forum wide lever match if this turns out to be something fun for everyone. I plan on participating myself, so if you make me the judge and I win...

This is a work in progress and I know Nem is short a rifle and I will have to buy stock in index card company before I find one to submit myself so I am in no hurry beyond lets do it and see how well it works. Plus, someone gets bragging rights while the rest of us get to plan the next one.

Here's what I have...
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Participation
This is a postcard match for the Marlin 39’s only. No distinction will be made between different types of Marlin 39’s, be that 39A, 39M, etc., as long as it is a Marlin 39 or its predecessor.

Participation is limited to members of THR and their families. Spouses and children are welcome.

There are two classes: Magnified and Non-Magnified.

Magnified will be any type of scope or sighting device that has glass components. This includes but is not limited to scopes.

Non-Magnified are any sights that do not use glass, this includes but is not limited to factory sights, peep sights, and red-dot sights.

Each participant may submit one card per class per rifle. The same rifle may be used in both classes. The same participant my submit cards for multiple rifles. The same rifle may be used by multiple family members.


Rules:

This is based completely on the honor system; participants should follow all rules to the best of their abilities.

No mechanical supports, no sandbags. The rifle must be supported only by the participant’s two hands which cannot be supported below the elbow. You may place your elbows on a bench, the ground, knees, etc. or shoot off hand. All shooting positions will be judged the same.

The distance shall be 25 yards minimum. More than 25 yards is accepted but will not be judged differently. Both indoor and outdoor shooting will be allowed but will not be judged differently.

A 3 X 5 index card will be used as the target. The only marking allowed on the target side of the card is an X or + for sighting. No circles or bull’s-eyes allowed.

Each card shall hold three shots only, cards with more or less than three shots will be disqualified. The scoring will be done by measuring distance from the center of hole 1 to the center of hole 2 ,then from the center of hole 2 to the center of hole 3, then from the center of hole 3 back to the center of hole 1. The total distance will be the score for the card. Tiebreakers will be determined by the distance from the center of the card to the center of the furthest hit.

On the back of the submitted card write the following information:

1. Shooter forum name and/or family relation
2. Magnified or Non-Magnified
3. Gun make and model (include any information about custom work)
4. Sights (i.e. Swarovski Optik Z6i 2-12x50 or Skinner peep sights)
5. Shooting position
6. Indoor/Outdoor (weather conditions)

All entries must be received at the judge's postal address before the deadline for entry. Any entries received after the deadline but before the results are posted are up to the judge’s discretion whether to allow the entry or not. No entries will be allowed after the results have been posted.

Judge’s results are final. Appeal denied.
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Old August 21, 2007, 07:20 PM   #447
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. Omitted original post made as Jeff was posting proposed rules.

Will read after work ... Looks good so far ...
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Old August 21, 2007, 08:14 PM   #448
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got my 39 as a gift from my grandfather. already had a Winchester 61 at his house for hunting, so he decided i need a .22 in phoenix for hunting. my wise grandfather knows i love rabbit and i dont get that much meat when i use my .308 ::
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Old August 21, 2007, 08:25 PM   #449
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I like it!

Can I buy a pack of Index cards, shoot 'em and send the best group in?

Also, since I am an iron sighter, how fat can the X be?

Oh yeah, almost forgot, can I enter a card for each 39 I own?

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Old August 21, 2007, 08:45 PM   #450
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I like it, looks good to me!

I'll be shooting with a scope, so it doesn't matter to me, BUT...


I have "Red Dot" type sights on other rifles.

In my experience, the fact that the red dot doesn't magnify and the fact that the dot covers the point of impact pretty much make the dot sights equal to iron sights.

That 3MOA dot means that there's 3/4" at 25 yards that you can't see because it's covered by the dot and it's going to be REAL hard to shoot a group smaller than the dot.

I certainly can't shoot any better with mine than I can with a peep sight.

I for one would think it more fair to put non- magnifying red dot type sights in with the iron sights where they
stand a chance.

A red dot against a real scope is no contest at all.

Naturaly, a magnifying red dot would be a "Real" scope. (But who would mount an ACOG on a model 39?)

Of course, if the division is "Old School" against "Modern", I understand completly!
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