Art's Grammaw, Revisited

**Art Eatman** · April 17, 2007, 11:55 PM

Lotsa relatively new folks here who maybe haven't figured out the "Grammaw" deal.

This website is to promote the responsible use of firearms. It's also to get the word out that we gunbugs are grownups. Responsible people. Normal, even. We're not a bunch of unshaven, unshowered, dirty clothes and fingernails weirdlies.

And part of that derives from the language we use here, and our behavior toward one another.

Don't use language that would have your grandmother bringing out the soap to wash your mouth out. Simple as that. Don't go insulting folks; she doesn't like that either.

Now, my preference in moderating is to keep it friendly and use as light a touch as an ornery old guy can. I'd rather make a joke of something than have a hissy fit. So, "Grammaw was here" is a mild warning that somebody forgot their manners.

If you're not a grownup, fake it. Act like one, anyway. Hey, I've been doin' that for years and years! "Getting bigger is mandatory; growing up is optional." Fake it.

I know it's cruel of me to ask some folks to actually think before hitting the "Post this nonsense" button. Regardless, ask yourself if your post honors or dishonors this website. After all, you're an ambassador to the world out there...

, Art

john paul · April 28, 2007, 04:21 PM

one of my favorite lines has always been "act like a grownup!"

SMMAssociates · April 28, 2007, 11:12 PM

Art:

Intelligent and insightful idea....

It'll never work

.

Regards,

davhina · April 30, 2007, 01:29 AM

We always try not to hack off Grammaw. Soap tastes awful.

LynnKCircle · May 1, 2007, 06:18 PM

There's one question I ask everyone on their birthdays, "Are you now old enough to know better?" (It's more fun to ask that when the birthday boy is past 65!)

**Brian Williams** · May 1, 2007, 09:53 PM

SMMAssociates

Quote:

Art:

Intelligent and insightful idea....

It'll never work .

Regards,

Yes it will work and we expect you to be one of the folks to help enforce it from now on, You throw grenades at us, we will calmly pick them up and hand them back to you and tell you to throw them at those who are not following requested instructions.

ReadyontheRight · May 1, 2007, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Art:

Intelligent and insightful idea....

It'll never work .

Regards,

Been working for ... what 5 years now?

Don't post what you wouldn't say in front of Art's Grammaw.

Respectful, intelligent discussion ... on the most important human issue ever.

SMMAssociates · May 1, 2007, 11:32 PM

(Hmm.... I did stick a smilie in there....)

Mea Culpa.... I couldn't resist zinging Art....

As to the rest, absolutely.... This is "The High Road" after all....

Regards,

**Art Eatman** · May 3, 2007, 09:41 PM

Zing me? Hey, for twenty years I wuz married to a lady who even her friends called, "Ol' Acid Tongue".

The world is full of amachoors.

, Art

Feanaro · June 10, 2007, 03:08 AM

You don't know my grandmother, do you? She was almost thrown in jail for cursing out a neighbor who was bothering her. At the trial, the weasel... defendant's testifimony went something like this: "well, she said --- ---- you ----ing *-**." She took the stand and said "I didn't call him any of those things. I said 'you @%& %&*&#&^, you haven't got any *$#&!'"

Someone once tried to steal her purse. She beat 'im with it.

I'll have to pretend to have a different grandmother on here.

foghornl · June 20, 2007, 12:54 PM

One question, Art:

Does Grammaw still pack her own 'Hickory Switch', or does she makes folks cut a switch from the tree themselves????

**Art Eatman** · June 25, 2007, 11:56 AM

I do the cuttin'; hers are a bit on the heavy side. And lately, she's been eye-balling the lye soap...

Art

Biker · June 25, 2007, 12:11 PM

I ate more than my share of Ivory Soap as a kid. You never get used to it...

Biker

HiroProX · July 1, 2007, 11:56 PM

Given Art's location I'd better be on better than my best behavior. My mom used to live in Terlingua in the 80s.

igpoobah · July 2, 2007, 12:02 AM

My gramma spent a few nights in jail; once for punching an IRS agent and another time for stabbing an IRS agent with a pen. Gotta love gramma! This was all after she was retired. Regular pistol.

USMC - Retired · July 6, 2007, 12:12 PM

Happy Birthday Art!

shooter_tx · July 21, 2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

I know it's cruel of me to ask some folks to actually think before hitting the "Post this nonsense" button. Regardless, ask yourself if your post honors or dishonors this website. After all, you're an ambassador to the world out there...

Good point. A fella on another site once said:

Quote:

We are all ambassadors of the bullet and if you don't play the part, you strengthen the stereotype and weaken us all.

I've tried to always remember that.

bakert · July 30, 2007, 09:50 AM

It's pretty easy to say things on the spur of the moment that are not appropriate without thinking, but one has to think at least a bit to type something out and then post it so there's really not much reason to get miffed if your wrist gets slapped or your thread gets closed. Just another old guy's opinion.

cnorman18 · September 11, 2007, 08:19 PM

My grandmother was a sharecropper who dipped snuff, belched like a Sumo wrestler, and spoke worse English than Granny Clampett; but she wouldn't abide foul language. Ivory soap? Oh, yeah.

Antis do read this forum. Every time we post respectful, well-reasoned and well-stated material, we deprive them of ammunition and frustrate their efforts to stereotype us. Every time we post foulmouthed, phony-macho chest-pounding tripe, we help THEIR cause, not ours.

Play Rambo somewhere else. WE take this issue seriously.

John Gault · September 20, 2007, 09:36 PM

Grandma Art, may I please have a cookie?

Thank you, Ma'am. Do you need any chores done? I'd be happy to oblige.

Yes Ma'am, my homework is done. Sure, right over here? My pleasure, Ma'am. A dime? Oh, no Ma'am, I don't want your money. Thank you kindly, but truely I just want to be a help.

This is NOT tongue-in-cheek. This is how I DEMAND my children communicate to adults. It is VERY reasonable that the Mods DEMAND we do the same, after all we are adults. We have learned better, right? Rants always fail. Rants expose weakness. Rants are based in emotion, not fact. You can not defend an emotion. You arm yourself with facts, not emotion.

We are here to learn to defend facts. There are many, many very incredibly smart people here that want to arm us with terrific facts. Listen to them. Learn from them. One rant and your credability is GONE.

Grandma, I'm all done with that chore. Is there anything else I can do for you? No? Well, God Bless, Ma'am, and I'll see you tomorrow morning.

dvcrsn · February 24, 2008, 05:16 PM

Art--from the sound of it--your granny was a southerner (like both of mine)--very charming--but very capable of smiling while removing the most tender of family assets if you messed up

**bikerdoc** · February 27, 2008, 07:50 PM

my grandma always said "There are two things you cant be, dirty or misbehaved" she made sure our clothes, body, and behavior was always clean.
I didnt have too much trouble with the clothes or body but sometimes the behavior, especialy verbal, got me a good butt kicking. learned real quick to talk and act respectful. my kids and now the grand kids are also real quick learners. thanks grandma.

mossberg · April 5, 2008, 12:28 AM

Okay, now I know which one of my grandma's to act like.

BamaHoosier · February 22, 2009, 05:18 PM

"Grammaws" don't live to be octagenarians(or centenarians)by living stupidly

My great-grammaw made it to 96,still dippin' snuff and carryin' her bible everywhere she went

.

It's like my job as a route driver:how people see me is how they see my company.So it goes with THR and its members

!

BTW,I was born and raised in AL;I'm familiar with "fetchin' a keen hickory"

Huddog · June 1, 2009, 04:24 PM

Glad to see others were raised as I was. Always hated the third trip to to the switch tree because if you didn't get that one right there would be real trouble. Seems to me what this world needs is a little more soap and hickory switches.

April 17, 2007, 11:55 PM	#1
Art Eatman Administrator Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: Terlingua, Texas Posts: 34,979	Art's Grammaw, Revisited Lotsa relatively new folks here who maybe haven't figured out the "Grammaw" deal. This website is to promote the responsible use of firearms. It's also to get the word out that we gunbugs are grownups. Responsible people. Normal, even. We're not a bunch of unshaven, unshowered, dirty clothes and fingernails weirdlies. And part of that derives from the language we use here, and our behavior toward one another. Don't use language that would have your grandmother bringing out the soap to wash your mouth out. Simple as that. Don't go insulting folks; she doesn't like that either. Now, my preference in moderating is to keep it friendly and use as light a touch as an ornery old guy can. I'd rather make a joke of something than have a hissy fit. So, "Grammaw was here" is a mild warning that somebody forgot their manners. If you're not a grownup, fake it. Act like one, anyway. Hey, I've been doin' that for years and years! "Getting bigger is mandatory; growing up is optional." Fake it. I know it's cruel of me to ask some folks to actually think before hitting the "Post this nonsense" button. Regardless, ask yourself if your post honors or dishonors this website. After all, you're an ambassador to the world out there... , Art __________________ You're from BATFE? Come right in! I use all your fine products!

April 28, 2007, 11:12 PM	#3
SMMAssociates Member Join Date: July 23, 2004 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 898	Art: Intelligent and insightful idea.... It'll never work . Regards, __________________ Stu (Why write a quick note when you can write a novel?) יזכר לא עד פעם

April 30, 2007, 01:29 AM	#4
davhina Member Join Date: January 7, 2007 Location: VA Posts: 323	We always try not to hack off Grammaw. Soap tastes awful. __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" R. Reagan

May 1, 2007, 06:18 PM	#5
LynnKCircle Member Join Date: October 30, 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 122	There's one question I ask everyone on their birthdays, "Are you now old enough to know better?" (It's more fun to ask that when the birthday boy is past 65!) __________________ Lynn K. Circle The best gun is the one you have with you

May 1, 2007, 11:32 PM	#8
SMMAssociates Member Join Date: July 23, 2004 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 898	(Hmm.... I did stick a smilie in there....) Mea Culpa.... I couldn't resist zinging Art.... As to the rest, absolutely.... This is "The High Road" after all.... Regards, __________________ Stu (Why write a quick note when you can write a novel?) יזכר לא עד פעם

April 28, 2007, 04:21 PM	#2
john paul Member Join Date: November 21, 2006 Location: cleveland tx Posts: 133	one of my favorite lines has always been "act like a grownup!"

May 3, 2007, 09:41 PM	#9
Art Eatman Administrator Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: Terlingua, Texas Posts: 34,979	Zing me? Hey, for twenty years I wuz married to a lady who even her friends called, "Ol' Acid Tongue". The world is full of amachoors. , Art __________________ You're from BATFE? Come right in! I use all your fine products!

June 10, 2007, 03:08 AM	#10
Feanaro Member Join Date: March 29, 2003 Location: Leeds, AL. Posts: 2,649	You don't know my grandmother, do you? She was almost thrown in jail for cursing out a neighbor who was bothering her. At the trial, the weasel... defendant's testifimony went something like this: "well, she said --- ---- you ----ing -." She took the stand and said "I didn't call him any of those things. I said 'you @%& %&&#&^, you haven't got any *$#&!'" Someone once tried to steal her purse. She beat 'im with it. I'll have to pretend to have a different grandmother on here. __________________ "I personally think the only true god is God, but your front sight is a safe icon to regard with complete obedience when it’s time to shoot[.]" -Bruce Gray

June 20, 2007, 12:54 PM	#11
foghornl Member Join Date: December 27, 2002 Posts: 7,394	One question, Art: Does Grammaw still pack her own 'Hickory Switch', or does she makes folks cut a switch from the tree themselves???? __________________ Load your weapons and "Stand Ready". It will be a bumpy ride.

June 25, 2007, 11:56 AM	#12
Art Eatman Administrator Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: Terlingua, Texas Posts: 34,979	I do the cuttin'; hers are a bit on the heavy side. And lately, she's been eye-balling the lye soap... Art __________________ You're from BATFE? Come right in! I use all your fine products!

June 25, 2007, 12:11 PM	#13
Biker Member Join Date: March 10, 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 6,016	I ate more than my share of Ivory Soap as a kid. You never get used to it... Biker __________________ Let's actually do something about our immigration problems. www.numbersusa.com www.fairus.org Here's to cheating, stealing, fighting and drinking. If you cheat, may it be a death; if you steal, may it be a heart; if you fight, may it be for your Brother; and if you drink, may it be with me. "Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding..." Ian Anderson

July 1, 2007, 11:56 PM	#14
HiroProX Member Join Date: November 27, 2006 Posts: 546	Given Art's location I'd better be on better than my best behavior. My mom used to live in Terlingua in the 80s. __________________ To vote is to exercise political power. Political power IS force, and force IS violence. - Robert A. Heinlein

July 2, 2007, 12:02 AM	#15
igpoobah Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 588	My gramma spent a few nights in jail; once for punching an IRS agent and another time for stabbing an IRS agent with a pen. Gotta love gramma! This was all after she was retired. Regular pistol. __________________ Coronach said: Remember, if the M16 is in the hands of a soldier, it is a jammomatic pile of steaming excrement that is likely not to function, but if its semi-auto clone is in the hands of a civilian it is a destruction-dealing death ray sprayer that can kill an entire parking lot full of toddlers and soccer moms before Diane Feinstein can say "shoot from the hip."

July 6, 2007, 12:12 PM	#16
USMC - Retired Member Join Date: September 6, 2006 Location: Leesburg, Georgia Posts: 418	Happy Birthday Art! __________________ Semper Fi, The Gunns United States Marine Corps - 1983-2003 Hunters Education Instructor GeorgiaCarry.org Member

July 30, 2007, 09:50 AM	#18
bakert Member Join Date: May 1, 2005 Posts: 1,668	It's pretty easy to say things on the spur of the moment that are not appropriate without thinking, but one has to think at least a bit to type something out and then post it so there's really not much reason to get miffed if your wrist gets slapped or your thread gets closed. Just another old guy's opinion.

September 11, 2007, 08:19 PM	#19
cnorman18 Member Join Date: August 27, 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 281	high standards are essential My grandmother was a sharecropper who dipped snuff, belched like a Sumo wrestler, and spoke worse English than Granny Clampett; but she wouldn't abide foul language. Ivory soap? Oh, yeah. Antis do read this forum. Every time we post respectful, well-reasoned and well-stated material, we deprive them of ammunition and frustrate their efforts to stereotype us. Every time we post foulmouthed, phony-macho chest-pounding tripe, we help THEIR cause, not ours. Play Rambo somewhere else. WE take this issue seriously. __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain "Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave." -- Andrew Fletcher, 1698

September 20, 2007, 09:36 PM	#20
John Gault Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Location: La Vergne, TN Posts: 44	Grandma Art, may I please have a cookie? Thank you, Ma'am. Do you need any chores done? I'd be happy to oblige. Yes Ma'am, my homework is done. Sure, right over here? My pleasure, Ma'am. A dime? Oh, no Ma'am, I don't want your money. Thank you kindly, but truely I just want to be a help. This is NOT tongue-in-cheek. This is how I DEMAND my children communicate to adults. It is VERY reasonable that the Mods DEMAND we do the same, after all we are adults. We have learned better, right? Rants always fail. Rants expose weakness. Rants are based in emotion, not fact. You can not defend an emotion. You arm yourself with facts, not emotion. We are here to learn to defend facts. There are many, many very incredibly smart people here that want to arm us with terrific facts. Listen to them. Learn from them. One rant and your credability is GONE. Grandma, I'm all done with that chore. Is there anything else I can do for you? No? Well, God Bless, Ma'am, and I'll see you tomorrow morning. __________________ "Who is John Gault"? "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

February 24, 2008, 05:16 PM	#21
dvcrsn Member Join Date: October 24, 2007 Posts: 117	Art--from the sound of it--your granny was a southerner (like both of mine)--very charming--but very capable of smiling while removing the most tender of family assets if you messed up

February 27, 2008, 07:50 PM	#22
bikerdoc Moderator Join Date: January 8, 2008 Location: Southern Virginia Posts: 8,918	my grandma always said "There are two things you cant be, dirty or misbehaved" she made sure our clothes, body, and behavior was always clean. I didnt have too much trouble with the clothes or body but sometimes the behavior, especialy verbal, got me a good butt kicking. learned real quick to talk and act respectful. my kids and now the grand kids are also real quick learners. thanks grandma.

April 5, 2008, 12:28 AM	#23
mossberg Member Join Date: March 4, 2007 Location: Saskatchewan,Canada Posts: 378	Okay, now I know which one of my grandma's to act like. __________________ A government is like a fire, a handy servant but a dangerous master.-George Washington

June 1, 2009, 04:24 PM	#25
Huddog Member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 627	Glad to see others were raised as I was. Always hated the third trip to to the switch tree because if you didn't get that one right there would be real trouble. Seems to me what this world needs is a little more soap and hickory switches.