Belt for Royal Robbins or BDUs

ReconTech · June 21, 2003, 03:47 AM

Whats a good belt to wear with these "tactical" pants? How about rescue belts? Web belts, currently I just wear basketweave leather, but was looking for a rescue belt of some sort, any nice ones out there other than the regular ones we see in surplus type catalogs?

cookhj · June 21, 2003, 03:59 AM

blackhawk makes some nice tactical rigger's belts. there thick nylon and will basically last forever. plus they have a metal ring on there that you can use as an emergency rappelling hook-up.

Skunkabilly · June 21, 2003, 04:05 AM

The Wilderness "Instructor's Belt" is the NBADI (no boubt a doubt it) tactical poser belt! Other than making you look like a Hardcore Individual they are pretty sturdy, adjustable so you don't have too much belt when you aren't carrying IWB, and vice versa. They also come in 1.5", but the standard is 1.75. I have the 1.5 for logistical reasons but I should have gotten the 1.75.

The only disadvantage to the belt other than it not being suitable to wear to work, unlike most gunbelts (which average nicer than the average joe's belt) is the clang-clang-cling-clang noise when it's not being worn. This is if you leave your pants next to your bed and get dressed before your roommate or SO wakes up. It's silent and very tactical when being worn, not like my squeeky leather gear.

ReconTech · June 21, 2003, 08:32 AM

Ok, so what is a good source for this belt? Also, while I'm at it, skunkman, what other "tactical poser" items do you use or recommend?

Kevlarman · June 21, 2003, 11:32 AM

The Blackhawk is basically the same, but it has a nice velcro strip that keeps the carabiner end fron going "cland-clang-clang."

It's what I'm wearing right now.

Skunkabilly · June 21, 2003, 01:36 PM

Recontech, I ordered straight from them. Other places carry them, so if you're in Arizona, order from out of state and save yourself a buck or two on sales tax.

As for other tactical poser gear: anything from Oakley. I heard their new boots are excellent, but if you can't afford them, Danners will do just fine.

Gun-themed clothing is too overt but fine for the range, so I only wear my Benelli Tactical hat and HK polo when shooting. Photo vests are too 'gun writer' and not 'tactical' enough. Firemen shirts and cop-themed t-shirts are somewhat tactical, but if you're a clean looking White guy and fairly in shape you run the chance of something thinking you're a cop.

The most tactical people I know just wear a regular t-shirt, Royal Robbins pants or Levi's

, those the instructors belts, either Danner or Oakley boots, carry a Strider or Emerson knife (where legal). Don't forget the Camelbak. I prefer the Motherlode as its the largest size you can carry on an airline, and the NON-ALICE one as the military style packs are too tactical looking and stand out too much. But you can have all your tacticality and functionality in the non-ALICE packs.

The nice thing about Oakley is even though they have tactical stuff like

you can blend in among trendy suburban guys that like to snowboard (at least in my neck of the woods), but you may stick out too much in your area. The advantage of being a tactical poser in my area is that people wear stuff like this who aren't even tactical. The HSLD Oakley stuff is trendy right now, and Camelbaks and the rigger belts don't raise too many hairs since people like doing stuff like rockclimbing.

Erick Gelhaus · June 21, 2003, 09:27 PM

Stick with the belt from The Wilderness www.thewilderness.com It is sewn here in the US as opposed to off-shore. I've got several belts & slings, along with a couple mag pouches from them none have blown out or failed.

For BDU's & generally the RR trousers, the 1.5" belt seems to be a better fit. However, the 1.75" will work with the RR trousers & it's great with jeans.

fwiw, mine are the 5 stitch version, rather than the one with the liner.

Lightfighter · June 21, 2003, 10:21 PM

I wear the SOE rigger's belt with my 511 pants every day.

ReconTech · June 23, 2003, 01:41 PM

I like SOE equipment, just need to find a local store that carries their stuff...

Skunkabilly · June 23, 2003, 02:32 PM

SOE r00Lz...w00t!!!!

ReconTech · June 23, 2003, 07:34 PM

Well, what I like about them is that they aren't super flashy like blackhawk, but both are nice. I also like Eagle..

My new Microtech UMS auto came with the optional SOE holster versus the sheath that says microtech on it..Its awesome...

I finally ended up at a army navy discount center (store near me) just buying this $22 nylon belt that is just like a rescue belt (the one above) but it is missing the extra triangular piece for the carabiner, but big enough to get one...

Kobun · June 23, 2003, 08:00 PM

I wear a Blackhawk Riggers belt almost daily.
I sometimes wear it at competitions, having a mag pouch and a Safariland 560 paddle holster on it. This is a very solid setup.
SOE also has a riggers belt that is even stiffer, and I would probably have chosen this today. Lightfighter carries them and a lot of other stuff.
The CamoCo vest that I have conseal a handgun very well.

As for the RR 5.11, in some enviroments, they will make you as a cop. A friend has told me that in Stockholm, Sweden, almost all the plainclothes cops wear RR 5.11 khaki, so he is made as a cop all the time, although he isn't one...

Fly320s · June 23, 2003, 11:41 PM

I have a Wilson belt for range and competition work but it is too thick and uncomfortable for normal use.

My standard leather dress belts are not wide or stiff enough to support the gun weight, so...

I bought a $10 Wal-mart special. I don't remember the correct name, but it has a black and yellow tag on it. The belt perfectly fits the loops of my Milt Sparks VM2 IWB and is stiff enough to support the weight of the gun and mag pouch.

Obviously, I don't qualify for the Skunkabilly Fraternal Order of Tactical Posers, but I get the job done.

VaughnT · June 25, 2003, 10:20 PM

I just got my Wilderness belt in the mail (thanks Dillon Precision) and it is awesome. I feel cool X 10 when I put it on and I'm sure I can leap a small building in three or less bounds. Very well put together and sure to last for years. $44 well spent.

The HP1 earmuffs are also very neat. I can't wait to try them out.

Skunkabilly · June 26, 2003, 03:08 AM

Quote:

$44 well spent.

You got the CSM? How is the comfort? And what's your waist size? Do you IWB?

Bruce626 · June 27, 2003, 12:46 AM

Ahem... I have a WIB and like it (just like Skunk's picture) but I have to say it is sloooooooowwwwww to come off... as in a "battle emergency dump" scenario or a "liberty hot mamma" situation. I guess if I'm just going to climb mountains and need to hang by my belt, I'd certainly pick this WIB belt... most other times, probably not.

Skunkabilly · June 27, 2003, 12:51 AM

Whats a liberty hot mama, after a few burritos, chili and cabbage?

jthuang · June 27, 2003, 10:50 AM

Yeah but what belt do y'all use when you're wearing brown boots (e.g. hiking)? I suppose I could use my Kramer belt but it's beat up enough as is, hate to abuse a $98 belt even more than it already is ....

[Let's assume I don't want to wear my black Danner Patrol boots for hiking ... I know it's more tactical but they're not designed for hiking like my Danner Explorers.]

TIA.

Justin

Bruce626 · June 27, 2003, 11:40 AM

Justin... yeah, you never know when the fashion police will ambush you on the trail and bust you for not having your belt match the color of your boots... I hate when that happens.

Skunkabilly · June 27, 2003, 11:49 AM

Justin,

Captain · June 27, 2003, 01:19 PM

Well you should probably wear a "tactical" belt to go along with the "tactical" pants that are made from "tactical" canvas. That's what it says in their literature....tactical canvas! If I throw on my 511 vest then I must be a really tactical person now! All in fun here folks!!

Skunkabilly · June 27, 2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

"tactical" canvas

Is that the stuff that Dick Kramer paints on?

jthuang · June 27, 2003, 04:11 PM

Thanks, Skunk. I didn't know that they made the belt in desert.

Now to find a similar color watchband to replace the black nylon fast-strap on my Timex digital compass watch.

Kevlarman · June 27, 2003, 04:19 PM

There are NATO watchbands that come in desert.

jthuang · June 30, 2003, 10:50 AM

Thanks Kevlarman. Now the fashion police will have nothing on me when I go trooping through the woods this summer.

(also gives me an excuse to buy more gear)

June 21, 2003, 03:47 AM	#1
ReconTech Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Posts: 84	Belt for Royal Robbins or BDUs Whats a good belt to wear with these "tactical" pants? How about rescue belts? Web belts, currently I just wear basketweave leather, but was looking for a rescue belt of some sort, any nice ones out there other than the regular ones we see in surplus type catalogs? __________________ Thin Blue Line

June 21, 2003, 04:05 AM	#3
Skunkabilly Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, Untacticalifornia =( Posts: 9,730	The Wilderness "Instructor's Belt" is the NBADI (no boubt a doubt it) tactical poser belt! Other than making you look like a Hardcore Individual they are pretty sturdy, adjustable so you don't have too much belt when you aren't carrying IWB, and vice versa. They also come in 1.5", but the standard is 1.75. I have the 1.5 for logistical reasons but I should have gotten the 1.75. The only disadvantage to the belt other than it not being suitable to wear to work, unlike most gunbelts (which average nicer than the average joe's belt) is the clang-clang-cling-clang noise when it's not being worn. This is if you leave your pants next to your bed and get dressed before your roommate or SO wakes up. It's silent and very tactical when being worn, not like my squeeky leather gear. __________________ http://www.skunkabilly.com If Chuck Norris and The Skunk logged onto THR at the same time, the servers would crash, for they could not contain that amount of pure awesome.

June 21, 2003, 08:32 AM	#4
ReconTech Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Posts: 84	Ok, so what is a good source for this belt? Also, while I'm at it, skunkman, what other "tactical poser" items do you use or recommend? __________________ Thin Blue Line

June 21, 2003, 11:32 AM	#5
Kevlarman Member Join Date: December 26, 2002 Location: Los Angeles / Kern County Border Posts: 1,355	The Blackhawk is basically the same, but it has a nice velcro strip that keeps the carabiner end fron going "cland-clang-clang." It's what I'm wearing right now. __________________ Si vis pacem, parabellum. MOLON LABE! TFL Alumnus

June 21, 2003, 01:36 PM	#6
Skunkabilly Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, Untacticalifornia =( Posts: 9,730	Recontech, I ordered straight from them. Other places carry them, so if you're in Arizona, order from out of state and save yourself a buck or two on sales tax. As for other tactical poser gear: anything from Oakley. I heard their new boots are excellent, but if you can't afford them, Danners will do just fine. Gun-themed clothing is too overt but fine for the range, so I only wear my Benelli Tactical hat and HK polo when shooting. Photo vests are too 'gun writer' and not 'tactical' enough. Firemen shirts and cop-themed t-shirts are somewhat tactical, but if you're a clean looking White guy and fairly in shape you run the chance of something thinking you're a cop. The most tactical people I know just wear a regular t-shirt, Royal Robbins pants or Levi's , those the instructors belts, either Danner or Oakley boots, carry a Strider or Emerson knife (where legal). Don't forget the Camelbak. I prefer the Motherlode as its the largest size you can carry on an airline, and the NON-ALICE one as the military style packs are too tactical looking and stand out too much. But you can have all your tacticality and functionality in the non-ALICE packs. The nice thing about Oakley is even though they have tactical stuff like you can blend in among trendy suburban guys that like to snowboard (at least in my neck of the woods), but you may stick out too much in your area. The advantage of being a tactical poser in my area is that people wear stuff like this who aren't even tactical. The HSLD Oakley stuff is trendy right now, and Camelbaks and the rigger belts don't raise too many hairs since people like doing stuff like rockclimbing. __________________ http://www.skunkabilly.com If Chuck Norris and The Skunk logged onto THR at the same time, the servers would crash, for they could not contain that amount of pure awesome.

June 21, 2003, 03:59 AM	#2
cookhj Member Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Capitol of the Confederacy, VA Posts: 590	blackhawk makes some nice tactical rigger's belts. there thick nylon and will basically last forever. plus they have a metal ring on there that you can use as an emergency rappelling hook-up.

June 21, 2003, 09:27 PM	#7
Erick Gelhaus Moderator Emeritus Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: northern CA Posts: 379	Stick with the belt from The Wilderness www.thewilderness.com It is sewn here in the US as opposed to off-shore. I've got several belts & slings, along with a couple mag pouches from them none have blown out or failed. For BDU's & generally the RR trousers, the 1.5" belt seems to be a better fit. However, the 1.75" will work with the RR trousers & it's great with jeans. fwiw, mine are the 5 stitch version, rather than the one with the liner.

June 21, 2003, 10:21 PM	#8
Lightfighter Member Join Date: June 2, 2003 Posts: 17	I wear the SOE rigger's belt with my 511 pants every day. __________________ Bradley C. Nelson www.Lightfighter.com bcnelson@lightfighter.com

June 23, 2003, 01:41 PM	#9
ReconTech Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Posts: 84	I like SOE equipment, just need to find a local store that carries their stuff... __________________ Thin Blue Line

June 23, 2003, 02:32 PM	#10
Skunkabilly Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, Untacticalifornia =( Posts: 9,730	SOE r00Lz...w00t!!!! __________________ http://www.skunkabilly.com If Chuck Norris and The Skunk logged onto THR at the same time, the servers would crash, for they could not contain that amount of pure awesome.

June 23, 2003, 07:34 PM	#11
ReconTech Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Posts: 84	Well, what I like about them is that they aren't super flashy like blackhawk, but both are nice. I also like Eagle.. My new Microtech UMS auto came with the optional SOE holster versus the sheath that says microtech on it..Its awesome... I finally ended up at a army navy discount center (store near me) just buying this $22 nylon belt that is just like a rescue belt (the one above) but it is missing the extra triangular piece for the carabiner, but big enough to get one... __________________ Thin Blue Line

June 23, 2003, 08:00 PM	#12
Kobun Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: On top of a big pile of ammo Posts: 672	I wear a Blackhawk Riggers belt almost daily. I sometimes wear it at competitions, having a mag pouch and a Safariland 560 paddle holster on it. This is a very solid setup. SOE also has a riggers belt that is even stiffer, and I would probably have chosen this today. Lightfighter carries them and a lot of other stuff. The CamoCo vest that I have conseal a handgun very well. As for the RR 5.11, in some enviroments, they will make you as a cop. A friend has told me that in Stockholm, Sweden, almost all the plainclothes cops wear RR 5.11 khaki, so he is made as a cop all the time, although he isn't one... __________________ The only "Fair Fight" is the one you lose.

June 23, 2003, 11:41 PM	#13
Fly320s Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,832	I have a Wilson belt for range and competition work but it is too thick and uncomfortable for normal use. My standard leather dress belts are not wide or stiff enough to support the gun weight, so... I bought a $10 Wal-mart special. I don't remember the correct name, but it has a black and yellow tag on it. The belt perfectly fits the loops of my Milt Sparks VM2 IWB and is stiff enough to support the weight of the gun and mag pouch. Obviously, I don't qualify for the Skunkabilly Fraternal Order of Tactical Posers, but I get the job done. __________________ I walk about society armed because I will not be subjugated to the demands of evil men. -Bullfrog Ken.

June 25, 2003, 10:20 PM	#14
VaughnT Member Join Date: December 27, 2002 Location: Western SC Posts: 1,009	I just got my Wilderness belt in the mail (thanks Dillon Precision) and it is awesome. I feel cool X 10 when I put it on and I'm sure I can leap a small building in three or less bounds. Very well put together and sure to last for years. $44 well spent. The HP1 earmuffs are also very neat. I can't wait to try them out. __________________ When reason fails..... Airplane Pictures

June 27, 2003, 12:46 AM	#16
Bruce626 Member Join Date: February 19, 2003 Location: Chicago near the 'hood Posts: 88	Ahem... I have a WIB and like it (just like Skunk's picture) but I have to say it is sloooooooowwwwww to come off... as in a "battle emergency dump" scenario or a "liberty hot mamma" situation. I guess if I'm just going to climb mountains and need to hang by my belt, I'd certainly pick this WIB belt... most other times, probably not. __________________ --Bruce. Yet another TFL Alum, and enjoying THR.

June 27, 2003, 12:51 AM	#17
Skunkabilly Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, Untacticalifornia =( Posts: 9,730	Whats a liberty hot mama, after a few burritos, chili and cabbage? __________________ http://www.skunkabilly.com If Chuck Norris and The Skunk logged onto THR at the same time, the servers would crash, for they could not contain that amount of pure awesome.

June 27, 2003, 10:50 AM	#18
jthuang Member Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 564	Yeah but what belt do y'all use when you're wearing brown boots (e.g. hiking)? I suppose I could use my Kramer belt but it's beat up enough as is, hate to abuse a $98 belt even more than it already is .... [Let's assume I don't want to wear my black Danner Patrol boots for hiking ... I know it's more tactical but they're not designed for hiking like my Danner Explorers.] TIA. Justin __________________ Justin T. Huang Late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

June 27, 2003, 11:40 AM	#19
Bruce626 Member Join Date: February 19, 2003 Location: Chicago near the 'hood Posts: 88	Justin... yeah, you never know when the fashion police will ambush you on the trail and bust you for not having your belt match the color of your boots... I hate when that happens. __________________ --Bruce. Yet another TFL Alum, and enjoying THR.

June 27, 2003, 11:49 AM	#20
Skunkabilly Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, Untacticalifornia =( Posts: 9,730	Justin, __________________ http://www.skunkabilly.com If Chuck Norris and The Skunk logged onto THR at the same time, the servers would crash, for they could not contain that amount of pure awesome.

June 27, 2003, 01:19 PM	#21
Captain Member Join Date: April 19, 2003 Location: W. PA Posts: 32	Well you should probably wear a "tactical" belt to go along with the "tactical" pants that are made from "tactical" canvas. That's what it says in their literature....tactical canvas! If I throw on my 511 vest then I must be a really tactical person now! All in fun here folks!! __________________ Captain

June 27, 2003, 04:11 PM	#23
jthuang Member Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 564	Thanks, Skunk. I didn't know that they made the belt in desert. Now to find a similar color watchband to replace the black nylon fast-strap on my Timex digital compass watch. __________________ Justin T. Huang Late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

June 27, 2003, 04:19 PM	#24
Kevlarman Member Join Date: December 26, 2002 Location: Los Angeles / Kern County Border Posts: 1,355	There are NATO watchbands that come in desert. __________________ Si vis pacem, parabellum. MOLON LABE! TFL Alumnus

June 30, 2003, 10:50 AM	#25
jthuang Member Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 564	Thanks Kevlarman. Now the fashion police will have nothing on me when I go trooping through the woods this summer. (also gives me an excuse to buy more gear) __________________ Justin T. Huang Late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

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