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Old June 12, 2007, 11:07 AM   #1
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M&p 340

Since there are sufficient numbers of S&W M&P 340s showing up now that the supply and prices are becoming more available and reasonable I thought there might be interest in a dedicated site.

This will assist others in their quest for the "ultimate snubbie", and cover the care and feeding of the beast.

Specifications:

Model: M&P340
Caliber: .357MAG/.38+P
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 1.87"
Front Sight: XS SightsŪ 24/7 Tritium Night
Rear Sight: Integral U-Notch
Grip: Synthetic
Overall Length: 6.31"
Weight Empty: 13.3 oz.
Material: Scandium Alloy Frame/Stainless Steel Cylinder
Finish: Matte Black
Frame Size: Small - Centennial Style
Action: Double Action Only





With the Factory Supplied Crimson Trace 405s and including the S&W Logo.

Share your experiences:

Prices
Holsters/carry methods.
Range Reports.
Likes and Dislikes.
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Old June 12, 2007, 11:12 AM   #2
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340 Shots

Here are some photos of my recent 340 acquisition.

I purchased it NIB with CT 405s. $779 included shipping.
Same dealer had it w/o the CTs for $599 including shipping.
At the time Bud's was at $603 plus shipping.





Here it is with a set of Hogue Monogrips.



In a DeSantis Nemesis Pocket Holster.



In a Robert Mika Round cut.
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Old June 12, 2007, 11:59 AM   #3
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I noticed that instead of all lightweight materials they are now adding steel cylinders. How has this helped recoil management, Is this a welcome change?
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Old June 12, 2007, 02:04 PM   #4
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You probably know from the 642 Club that I have an M&P 340 laid away. I hope fiVe doesn't throw me out of the club for joining here. My wife will still have the 642 with her at all times, while in 90 days, I will be carrying the M&P. I found it very easy to pick up the M&P and shoot center mass at 50 ft. with the skills I have learned from practicing a high grip with the 642 for about 2 1/2 years. Not much difference in perceived recoil with this weapon between my heavy .357 loads and factory Remington .38 sp. FBI loads. I was very pleased with my first outing with it yesterday. It's definitely a keeper! When it finally is mine I will probably get some wood grips since my Hogue monogrip will probably be put back on the 642 for my wife. She loves that grip and shoots the 642 very well.
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Old June 12, 2007, 02:39 PM   #5
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As long as we all have our 642's I'm sure fiVe will be ok. There are enough differences in the two and since it is new handgun from S&W current owners should be able to provide guidance to prospective owners so they don't have to wade through the hundreds of pages for Club 642.

You are further ahead of me. Iv'e had mine for a month and it is still NIB.
I haven't had a chance to get to the range with lots of family activities and work keeping me from one of my favorite activities.

I am not recoil sensitive so I'm relatively certain the speciality .357 loads for short barrels will although not be perhaps a day at the beach also will be quite tolerable. Glad to hear it wasn't a "howitzer". Empirically it should be somewhere between a 642 and a Scandium, Titanium 340pd in terms of proportional weight and felt recoil.
I really plan on carrying +P anyway and was just looking for something lighter to pocket carry. I have to admit I like the looks the sights and with the SS cylinder it should be easier to maintain.

My wife has my 642 with the CTs when I am out of town and I am still using it until I get a couple hundred rounds through the 340. I also have other auto carry options as-well. I am just more a fan of the snubs and can target with no problem.

Glad to have you here.

What is your favorite pocket carry holster?

20Nickels....two ounces worth of felt recoil reduction over the lighter versions. Just kidding, or two ounces worse than the 642. with the ammunition all being the same in our hypothetical test.
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Old June 12, 2007, 03:02 PM   #6
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I have the Nemesis that I used for about a year. The holster I use now is from K&D Holsters. It's leather and called the Combination Pocket Defender.

The reason I don't use the Nemesis is that the grip was hard to conceal in short pocketed dress pants. I started to cut the Nemesis off at the bottom and keep using it since it never comes out of the pocket on the draw and is the easiest to draw from. I didn't have the heart to take a razor to it, so I just kept it.

I had a Pocket Defender made for my P3At and liked it very well. Then I had one made for my P11 as well as for the 642. The Defender lets the weapon ride lower in the pocket, but has nowhere near the draw capability of the Nemesis. I'm still trying to break the 2 newer holsters in. The one for the 642 is loosening up some and makes for an easier draw. I must admit I very seldom carry the P11 because it's too thick and heavy for the pocket, even though it has been 100% reliable right out of the box in the last year.

If I ever get another pocket holster, it would have to be the Mika since that seems to be most everyone's favorite.
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Old June 12, 2007, 03:04 PM   #7
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A comment from Florida Bob over on the S&W Forum about light weight snubs.

When I bought my new 360SC Saturday as my main new carry weapon, I really had worries about recoil after reading "a dream to carry and nightmare to shoot" and other like comments.

Took one look at the Bantam grip and decided that is nuts. Changed to the Hogue that gives me room for my pinkie on the grip. Felt 100% better and immediately convinced me that it would likely not be that bad on recoil.

Got to the range last eve and was majorly surprised. The recoil is not at all scary. Significant, but not much more than any small .38 or .357, including my wife's 60LS. The Hogue seems to have made the difference.

Accuracy was surprising, too. Shot the first 10 rounds at 21 feet and put all into a 8" target with 4 inside the 2" bullseye. Handed it over to the wife and she did about the same thing.


If you are even thinking about the 12oz weight, carry-ability and stopping power of this S&W, go for it. If you are a novice, it will open your eyes but in one afternoon, you should get comfortable.


This should bode well for anyone considering a M&P 340 since the sc is 2 oz lighter yet. Hey who knows, I may get one of these too.

See a photo of the Hogue Monogrips above. Great for control with a full hand grip and I don't find them a negative for concealment or draw unless you have shallow pockets. Anyone purchasing a 340 has to have deep pockets anyway. (drum roll).
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Old June 12, 2007, 03:18 PM   #8
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I found no difference in accuracy with the one I shot yesterday and the 642 I've had for 2 1/2 years. The first five shots at 21 ft. could have been covered with a half dollar. These were my light .38 wadcutters. Then I changed to my light .357 LSWC's and the next 5 shots at 50 ft. could have been covered by a 45 record album, if there's anyone here who remembers what 45's looked like. That's about what I'm accustomed to with my 642. All of this was slow-fired, of course. I'm sure using a Monogrip could tighten any of this up a bit.


We found out that using the Hogue kept my wife from twisting the weapon in her hand as she was squeezing the trigger. She loves that grip! She doesn't have big hands, but it made her grip more stable.
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Old June 12, 2007, 03:19 PM   #9
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Yes, I do hear that drum rolling........$635 tax and all! And that's for the M&P!
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Old June 12, 2007, 03:27 PM   #10
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DAdams, you wouldn't happen to make it out to Coal Creek Armory in Knoxville on occasion would you? I'm considering the 340 and would love the chance to try one beforehand, if that were possible.
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Old June 12, 2007, 04:43 PM   #11
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Talking I am NOT interested in a 340

Hmmm. Sure are a lot of familiar user names in this thread. I wonder why?

Just subscribing to read. I'm not really interested in a 340. No, really, I'm not interested. You believe me, don't you? Really, I'm not interested in a hand-held howitzer. Really ... I just want to read all the stories about broken wrists from firing fullbore loads.

But I'm not really interested in ...

OK, so maybe just a little curious.
But I won't buy one. No way in hell ...

Well, OK, maybe someday ...

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Old June 12, 2007, 05:12 PM   #12
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How much heavier is the 340 M&P than the Scandium version?
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Old June 12, 2007, 08:41 PM   #13
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642 is 15 oz. empty
M&P 340 is 13.3 oz. empty
340PD Scandium is 12 oz. empty
These are S&W's numbers.

The M&P 340 that I bought weighed in at 14 oz. on the dealer's scales.
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Old June 12, 2007, 08:45 PM   #14
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Please, read all you want to, but you KNOW you WANT one. Come on now, admit it. You can have the 642 for your 870's partner, but you know your 336 or 39A need a playmate. Why not come over to the dark,... and I do mean dark....side?


Somewhere off in the future for me: SP101, PF9, Bushmaster A3, Remington 1187, Vaquero in .357................They're all out there, somwhere.
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Old June 12, 2007, 09:03 PM   #15
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Is a 340 PD welcome?

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Old June 12, 2007, 09:31 PM   #16
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Damn, I am really kicking myself here. I've been looking for a M&P 340 with CT grips for a while now. Everyone was either out of stock or asking too much.

I ffinallyl ound a stocking dealer with the standard model and figured what the hell, I'll order it and get some LG-405's off ebay or something in the next few months.

The gun will be here tommorow. In all the reasearch I did before purchasing, I never noticed that little S&W logo on the factory grips. So now I will probably have to pay $250 to Smith so I can have the damn logo on there instead of the CT logo

I don't normally care about these things but with a gun this nice it'd kill me not to have the smith logo on the grips.
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Old June 12, 2007, 09:46 PM   #17
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count me in--

My M&P 340 is at the 'smith's, getting its action job. Got it about a month ago, and I even used it to shoot my (very basic) CC qualifying. Incidentally, I weighed it on my postal scale here, and it came in at 13.34 oz...so the S&W specs are accurate.

Mine has the Meprolight front sight, and I added the aftermarket CT-405 grips. Courtesy of you guys in the 640 thread, I got a couple of Mika pocket holsters as well.

FWIW, the hard rubber speedloaders from speedloaders.com are clearly the best speedloader I have used. Takes a bit of practice, like any other defensive skill, but they work, and work fast. IMO, 'way better than a Speed Strip. Here's a link to the 'factory' page--http://www.speedloaders.com/ Brownell's and other places carry them.

Until I get more familiar with it, I think I'll be carrying the FC .38 Spl 110-gr. PD loads, or possibly the 129-gr +P loads.

And, I even bought a 640 to practice with.

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Old June 12, 2007, 10:51 PM   #18
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Coach, Come on Down

Coach if you are a glutton for punishment and a hand canon handler, you are welcome.

We will take on all S&W snubbies with exotic metals under 15 oz.

So, what's the largest .357 load you put through your pd and your hand was able to sustain the pain? What is your carry round? Do you have to sign documents with the "other hand" now?

Do you see a M&P 340 in your future or are you happy with what you brought?
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Old June 12, 2007, 10:54 PM   #19
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Please, read all you want to, but you KNOW you WANT one. Come on now, admit it. You can have the 642 for your 870's partner, but you know your 336 or 39A need a playmate. Why not come over to the dark,... and I do mean dark....side?
Nem really is a closet 340 wannabe but he is on another mission right now he is pumping iron in preparation of the new Model 65 and all the polishing ahead. He is heading in a heavier direction at this time in his life (K Frame) if you know what I mean.
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The gun will be here tommorow. In all the reasearch I did before purchasing, I never noticed that little S&W logo on the factory grips. So now I will probably have to pay $250 to Smith so I can have the damn logo on there instead of the CT logo

I don't normally care about these things but with a gun this nice it'd kill me not to have the smith logo on the grips.
Fiver, welcome. I feel kind of the same way about that brass logo thingy on the Pachs I didn't get as standard grips. when I got the 405s.

Yep, gotta have those S&W logo grips fo sho.

If you get off for $250 at S&W let me know, it may become my most fashionable shopping address for CTs. Now, if they would only offer optional 305s. Don't forget to get a set of Hogue Monogrips. Inexpensive and feel real nice. Don't loose the lanyard post in the shagadelic carpet if you change out your grips.
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Old June 12, 2007, 11:06 PM   #21
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My M&P 340 is at the 'smith's, getting its action job. Got it about a month ago, and I even used it to shoot my (very basic) CC qualifying. Incidentally, I weighed it on my postal scale here, and it came in at 13.34 oz...so the S&W specs are accurate.

Mine has the Meprolight front sight, and I added the aftermarket CT-405 grips. Courtesy of you guys in the 640 thread, I got a couple of Mika pocket holsters as well.
Consider yourself in, and Welcome.

Glad someone is getting some "action" around here. What does an action job on a 340 consist of? Who is doing it and what does it cost? What spring weights are being used on th AJ?

Meprolight front sight? How does that differ from the standart Tritium sight?

Two Mikas? Nice going, both for the 340? One square, one round?
They are sweet holsters. Kudos to Robert Mika.

What's your carry round and have you put any .357 rounds downrange?
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Nem really is a closet 340 wannabe ...
Who?

Me?



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... but he is on another mission right now ...
he is pumping iron in preparation of the new Model 65
Yep.

{3rd set}

You guys go on without me for now.
I'll get there as soon as I get this 65
polished up ...
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The only .357 I carry .38's in is a 12 oz snubby j-frame--and that's because I experimented with it long enough to decide that I give up too much control with any real .357 load in that gun.
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I carried full-charge .357s in my Colt M357 in Viet Nam. My daughter carries .357s in her 3" Ruger SP 101 (which I bought for her.) I feel that gun is about the limit for .357s for most people -- any lighter and you start to develop bad habits in practice (or stop practicing.)
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Old June 13, 2007, 10:01 AM   #24
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CT direct from S&W $285 after shipping and tax.

I read over on the CT forums that S&W is the only manufacturer that allows you to buy CT's with thier logo after the fact. For other brands if you want thier fancy logo you have to buy it installed on the gun from the factory.



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If you get off for $250 at S&W let me know, it may become my most fashionable shopping address for CTs. Now, if they would only offer optional 305s. Don't forget to get a set of Hogue Monogrips. Inexpensive and feel real nice. Don't loose the lanyard post in the shagadelic carpet if you change out your grips.
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Old June 13, 2007, 11:00 AM   #25
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Thanks for the welcome.
I tried Federal "reduced recoil" 357's.
They are full power loads. NOT "reduced recoil".
Shame on Federal for marketing that way.
I loaded Corbon DPX and Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel,
in 38+P and 357 in the same cylinder.
The Speers had much greater recoil.
Mine is loaded with Corbon DPX.
First 2-38+P and last 3-357. Both easy to control.
I ordered Buffalo Bore Standard Pressure
Non +P in 38 Special (158 grain).
They say 900 FPS out of a 2 inch and no leading.
I haven't had a chance to try them out yet.
Might load those as first 2 after I try them out.
I've had it for about 2 years. NOTHING carries better.

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