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Old April 10, 2014, 12:32 PM   #1
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Ammo and the advantages of oddballs

I have three new 22s I have not been able shoot hardly any at all.

I just got an 1891 Mauser beck into shootable condition. I'm thinking I'll have to order ammo and wait for it to come in before I can take it to the range. Nope, the tiny and usually poorly stocked shop about a mile from the house had a case of it and was almost a dollar a box cheaper than I found it online before shipping.

Ya just never know.
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Old April 10, 2014, 03:38 PM   #2
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A lot of small businesses do "cost +" pricing and don't really track the market until its time to restock. Most gas stations are like this pricing on what it'll cost them to buy the next tanker load, which is why gas prices go up faster than they come down!

There are "deals" out there if you get lucky.

OTOH these places can end up with some absurd prices after a market has peaked and crashed.
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Old April 10, 2014, 04:13 PM   #3
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You probably lucked-out because your local shop is looking to unload their 7.65 argentine ammo. No telling how much time will pass before someone else will be wanting it.

Now if they had a pallet of .22lr, I'd bet that the pricing would be closer to market.
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Old April 10, 2014, 09:07 PM   #4
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It's possible to stumble across a deal like the OP did, but in general these are hard times for oddballs. The factories are cranking out as much of the popular rounds as they can and selling them right off the end of the production line. This means that they can't spare the time to retool for some of the slower movers. The result is that some of the slow movers are in extremely short to non-existent supply now. Try getting some 218 Bee ammo or 444 Marlin brass.

http://www.hornady.com/support/availability
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Old April 10, 2014, 09:17 PM   #5
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I was more stunned by it being in stock than by the price.
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Old April 10, 2014, 10:03 PM   #6
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We have a local bait shop which is both warehouse and store, family owned joint that is literally in the heart of the "hood". I stop in for minnows regularly and was on first name basis with the 3 guys that worked there. Apparently at some point they were a retailer for ammo and forgot about a few pallets of ammo. So they found it one day looking for some antiques I asked about, and I ended up at the bank for a personal loan. Literally. 2 pallets of 12 16 and 20 ga plus a pallet of various remanufactured handgun and rifle ammo. Anything you want, $2 a box. I spent $2500. Hard times came along and I sold a lot of it, mainly stuff I didn't shoot. It does happen. Sometimes it happens in incredible ways. I got 1300 boxes of ammo by the time I was done negotiating. I filled the bed of my Nissan and some overflow was in passenger floorboard. I still have a lot of the shotgun shells and a pile of 25acp. The shotgun shells are junk but they work for squirrels. The shotgun ammo was activ steel (rust) and the rest was ultra max. This was around 2008
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Old April 11, 2014, 09:05 AM   #7
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Oddballs are dependent on what Obamascare we are suffering under. The first one I could find .30-06, .30-30, and 12 ga locally no problem. The military calibers were the only ones sold out.

This last one, nothing much could be seen for a month, but I could get 6.8SPC, and 6.5Grendel was on the shelf next to it down to the last day. They were also the first ones back.

That seemed to define who was buying what. In both cases and in between, .380 couldn't be had. Now, it's .22. The causes of what starts a panic have filtered down to the masses and they are ALL concerned now. It's not just a black T shirt problem. If anything, the guys continuing the .22 debacle are now definitely in overreaction and creating the feeding frenzy.

It's a great case study in zombie economics.

"Oddball" calibers goes to the accessories, too. I was buying and receiving 6.8 mags right thru the high point of the last scare, it took months to find PMags on the shelf.

That's the whole point about "oddballs." Step back and look at what is popular, and you quickly see what sells out Day One during the "crisis." So, the maxim is, "Observe the masses, and do the opposite." At a time when AR15 sales are still expanding, buying one in 5.56 means you get to join all the others in line looking for ammo. And basing a cartridge decision on being able to get cheap imported ammo from Eastern European sources? That supply chain is long and vulnerable to a lot of outside influences.

Some of us got to shoot .308 thru the good old days when nations were dumping it on the market surplus during their changeover to 5.56. It's all gone now. We learned that just because you enjoy a currently expedient choice, that is exactly what it is - a snap shot in time where you can't see the end, yet. But, it's out there, just the same as a new car turning over 250,000 and getting junked. Cheap calibers last about twenty years start to finish, change will come. Be ready.
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