The CZ Club - Page 34

eerw · November 23, 2008, 06:38 PM

what works for me on the disassembly.

grips off, remove pins that hold hammer spring plug and mag brake.

depress the lever on the offside decocker while lifting the sear spring. pull out the left side decocking lever. this will release the right side lever too. using a Glock disassembly too..drive out the sear pin-right to left. then I drive a sear pin from a manual safety version, left to right. line the pin up so that it fits only the ejector housing. this will allow the housing to come out of the frame. from there you got access to the hammer.

burningsquirrels · November 23, 2008, 07:12 PM

hm. if the frame is essentially the same... i wonder if i can get a regular cz-75b in 40 and then just swap the top ends.

i should just shut up and save up for a tactical sport.

Deer Hunter · December 1, 2008, 10:25 AM

I've just ordered at competition hammer and a 15 pound mainspring.

I hope these two things will live up to their rep.

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 10:26 AM

they will. if they don't, pm me.

Deer Hunter · December 1, 2008, 11:26 AM

I'll sell them to you for 100 bucks if they dont' work.

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 11:27 AM

whatever.

schmeky · December 1, 2008, 11:28 AM

Deer Hunter,

Prepare to be amazed with the installation of the CZ Competition hammer. You'll find, as I have, the 15# mainspring will really help the DA pull more than the SA pull, with the comp hammer.

You must be prepared to alter the sear safety tang. The manual safety will not work with the new hammer; you must cut the tang properly for the manual saftey to re-engage.

Several THR members can help you with this, burningsquirrels, eerw, and myself. The first 2 members have more "good" knowledge of the CZ pistol than just about anybody, and they're good guys to boot. Just remember, the first time, you might need some input; don't be afraid to ask, it's not difficult to do.

Deer Hunter · December 1, 2008, 12:01 PM

Alright. Cutting stuff to make it fit? I've got a dremel and a clear conscious. With a little instruction I'll be set!

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 12:05 PM

no, no dremel-ing. just drop it in - the comp hammer and mainspring should fit with no problem.

again, the safety leg of the sear is the only thing that is required for cock n' lock purposes. and you don't even need to do this to dry fire or go shooting, if you already don't use the safety.

schmeky · December 1, 2008, 01:39 PM

Actually , the dremel, if used carefully and with prudence, is a great tool. I have a green hard-stone grinding attachment that when done properly, will fit the saftety quickly. I have used this to fit the comp hammer on 5 of my personal CZ's and they all work perfectly.

You can leave the saftey tang untouched and the pistol will fire, but the manual safety will not work.

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 01:41 PM

yup, i use the dremel too, just advising against it until the parts have already been installed.

how else do you think i get my internal magwells done?

schmeky · December 1, 2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning

just advising against it until the parts have already been installed.

Agreed 100%.

Deer Hunter · December 1, 2008, 05:21 PM

I wouldn't dick with anything until I make sure it absolutely wont work.

Now if I just drop it in, no problem, will the manual safety still work?

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 05:24 PM

the manual safety will not be able to rotate if you drop in the cz comp hammer. the sear will need to be modified.

Deer Hunter · December 1, 2008, 05:25 PM

Alright. I'll worry about that when it gets here, then.

eerw · December 1, 2008, 05:25 PM

Love my dremel..

Quote:

I wouldn't dick with anything until I make sure it absolutely wont work.
Now if I just drop it in, no problem, will the manual safety still work?

most likely not...the new hammer puts the sear in a different position so it will not fit fit over the pad on the safety.

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 05:27 PM

you'll see what we're talking about when you put the hammer in and reassemble. no biggie. gun still works, just no safety.

Deer Hunter · December 1, 2008, 05:29 PM

Well I'd like to use the safety, so I'll be taking a look at an FAQ page to see about fixing it.

tblt · December 1, 2008, 05:31 PM

I am looking at buying a CZ RAMI for CCW(not the poly one).
How does this gun shoot and how does it carry
I have been carrying my new LCP and love the size.
My old carry gun was a 38 revolver Taurus mod 85

burningsquirrels · December 1, 2008, 05:31 PM

like we say, you'll see it when you get it.

tblt · December 1, 2008, 05:36 PM

I am looking at a CZ RAMI 9 m.m.(not the poly one)
How does it shoot and how does it carry?
I carry my LCP now and love the size
Will I even carry it after carrying the LCP
I used to carry my taurus mod 85 but not now after carrying the LCP

see my 9 mm and 380 ammo test

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=410045

eerw · December 2, 2008, 08:39 AM

the Rami is quite a bit bigger than the LCP..more of the size of a like a G26 or 27.

Deer Hunter · December 2, 2008, 01:25 PM

I had my hands on a RAMI in .40 the other day. It seemed like my hands were just a bit too large for it to be comfortable. The compacts fit me great.

It's a trade-off, really. The RAMI is a bit more concealable, but I don't know about the size. Being able to put the bullets where you need them in a hurry is a main concern when discussing CCWs.

Deer Hunter · December 3, 2008, 01:24 AM

Another question,

Would the mainspring and comp trigger fit in my CZ97?

schmeky · December 3, 2008, 10:43 AM

Deer Hunter,

Yes. The hammer, hammer strut, trigger, sear, firing pin block parts, recoil and mainsprings, sights, and most pins will interchange from the 75 to the 95.

CZ's are like smallblock Chevy's, which is part of their appeal.

November 23, 2008, 07:12 PM	#827
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	hm. if the frame is essentially the same... i wonder if i can get a regular cz-75b in 40 and then just swap the top ends. i should just shut up and save up for a tactical sport. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 10:26 AM	#829
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	they will. if they don't, pm me. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 11:27 AM	#831
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	whatever. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 12:05 PM	#834
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	no, no dremel-ing. just drop it in - the comp hammer and mainspring should fit with no problem. again, the safety leg of the sear is the only thing that is required for cock n' lock purposes. and you don't even need to do this to dry fire or go shooting, if you already don't use the safety. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 01:41 PM	#836
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	yup, i use the dremel too, just advising against it until the parts have already been installed. how else do you think i get my internal magwells done? __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

November 23, 2008, 06:38 PM	#826
eerw Member Join Date: January 5, 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 711	what works for me on the disassembly. grips off, remove pins that hold hammer spring plug and mag brake. depress the lever on the offside decocker while lifting the sear spring. pull out the left side decocking lever. this will release the right side lever too. using a Glock disassembly too..drive out the sear pin-right to left. then I drive a sear pin from a manual safety version, left to right. line the pin up so that it fits only the ejector housing. this will allow the housing to come out of the frame. from there you got access to the hammer.

December 1, 2008, 10:25 AM	#828
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	I've just ordered at competition hammer and a 15 pound mainspring. I hope these two things will live up to their rep.

December 1, 2008, 11:26 AM	#830
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	I'll sell them to you for 100 bucks if they dont' work.

December 1, 2008, 11:28 AM	#832
schmeky Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: West Monroe, Louisiana Posts: 2,176	Deer Hunter, Prepare to be amazed with the installation of the CZ Competition hammer. You'll find, as I have, the 15# mainspring will really help the DA pull more than the SA pull, with the comp hammer. You must be prepared to alter the sear safety tang. The manual safety will not work with the new hammer; you must cut the tang properly for the manual saftey to re-engage. Several THR members can help you with this, burningsquirrels, eerw, and myself. The first 2 members have more "good" knowledge of the CZ pistol than just about anybody, and they're good guys to boot. Just remember, the first time, you might need some input; don't be afraid to ask, it's not difficult to do.

December 1, 2008, 12:01 PM	#833
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	Alright. Cutting stuff to make it fit? I've got a dremel and a clear conscious. With a little instruction I'll be set!

December 1, 2008, 01:39 PM	#835
schmeky Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: West Monroe, Louisiana Posts: 2,176	Actually , the dremel, if used carefully and with prudence, is a great tool. I have a green hard-stone grinding attachment that when done properly, will fit the saftety quickly. I have used this to fit the comp hammer on 5 of my personal CZ's and they all work perfectly. You can leave the saftey tang untouched and the pistol will fire, but the manual safety will not work.

December 1, 2008, 05:21 PM	#838
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	I wouldn't dick with anything until I make sure it absolutely wont work. Now if I just drop it in, no problem, will the manual safety still work?

December 1, 2008, 05:24 PM	#839
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	the manual safety will not be able to rotate if you drop in the cz comp hammer. the sear will need to be modified. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 05:25 PM	#840
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	Alright. I'll worry about that when it gets here, then.

December 1, 2008, 05:27 PM	#842
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	you'll see what we're talking about when you put the hammer in and reassemble. no biggie. gun still works, just no safety. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 05:29 PM	#843
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	Well I'd like to use the safety, so I'll be taking a look at an FAQ page to see about fixing it.

December 1, 2008, 05:31 PM	#844
tblt member Join Date: December 24, 2007 Location: florida Posts: 955	I am looking at buying a CZ RAMI for CCW(not the poly one). How does this gun shoot and how does it carry I have been carrying my new LCP and love the size. My old carry gun was a 38 revolver Taurus mod 85

December 1, 2008, 05:31 PM	#845
burningsquirrels Member Join Date: April 1, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,562	like we say, you'll see it when you get it. __________________ Want to learn more about USPSA competition? Click here! CZ Pistols: Perfect for carry and competition and because I like to win. My 40B mini site for all CZ shooters.

December 1, 2008, 05:36 PM	#846
tblt member Join Date: December 24, 2007 Location: florida Posts: 955	I am looking at a CZ RAMI 9 m.m.(not the poly one) How does it shoot and how does it carry? I carry my LCP now and love the size Will I even carry it after carrying the LCP I used to carry my taurus mod 85 but not now after carrying the LCP see my 9 mm and 380 ammo test http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=410045

December 2, 2008, 08:39 AM	#847
eerw Member Join Date: January 5, 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 711	the Rami is quite a bit bigger than the LCP..more of the size of a like a G26 or 27.

December 2, 2008, 01:25 PM	#848
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	I had my hands on a RAMI in .40 the other day. It seemed like my hands were just a bit too large for it to be comfortable. The compacts fit me great. It's a trade-off, really. The RAMI is a bit more concealable, but I don't know about the size. Being able to put the bullets where you need them in a hurry is a main concern when discussing CCWs.

December 3, 2008, 01:24 AM	#849
Deer Hunter Member Join Date: December 26, 2005 Posts: 4,097	Another question, Would the mainspring and comp trigger fit in my CZ97?

December 3, 2008, 10:43 AM	#850
schmeky Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: West Monroe, Louisiana Posts: 2,176	Deer Hunter, Yes. The hammer, hammer strut, trigger, sear, firing pin block parts, recoil and mainsprings, sights, and most pins will interchange from the 75 to the 95. CZ's are like smallblock Chevy's, which is part of their appeal.