The CZ Club - Page 75

dancz · January 1, 2012, 03:00 AM

I guess it does show trust that we are allowed to own full autos but not shoot them but it would be the same as you being able to own a car that can go faster than the speed limit. They trust that you won’t speed and punish you if you do. The punishment for us caught using full autos would be lost of licence and confiscation of all firearms. And they don’t buy them either as they are cut up. The restraint in not using them is easy when I could lose everything I own. As you see above it would be costly if I lost my guns.

It is a shame that we can never fire our full autos but it is what it is. There are far worse places for gun restrictions. We have argued for a couple of days now and then where we could perhaps go to a range and fire them under strict control but to date this has not happened. The only people that can use full autos here are the police and military.

Pocket pistols are not used for pistol matches here so these can’t be used either.

12131 · January 3, 2012, 02:39 AM

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Jokes flying right past people in this thread

mojo357 · January 5, 2012, 12:18 PM

I bought my very first handgun after much research. I chose the CZ-82 for its reputed reliability and accuracy, as well as the ready availability of ammo. It was also, importantly, well within my budget, a bargain at its C&R price. I haven't shot it yet but did buy some extra magazines.

larryh1108 · January 5, 2012, 03:28 PM

Welcome to the CZ club, mojo. It looks like you bought a beautiful CZ. I hope it gives you years of good shooting. However, since this is your first handgun, you need to follow proper handling and keep that finger off the trigger until you intend to fire it. Just some friendly advice from a fellow CZ lover.

tekarra · January 5, 2012, 08:48 PM

Welcome to the cZ club. The 82 is a great little pistol.

hAkron · January 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

Just noticed the CZ club thread was on page "75"

CZguy · January 5, 2012, 10:55 PM

mojo357,

Welcome to the high road. Looks like you got a CZ 82 in really good shape.

mojo357 · January 6, 2012, 12:50 PM

Thanks, guys. Just to ease your minds the gun was not loaded when I took the pic. Not even one in the chamber. I'm waiting for my NRA safety guide to arrive before I even load it. Might even take a course.

beatledog7 · January 6, 2012, 01:24 PM

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Just to ease your minds the gun was not loaded when I took the pic. Not even one in the chamber.

Our minds are not eased. Finger off the trigger until sights are on target. Many people have been killed by people pulling the triggers of guns thought to be in exactly that condition.

If you're preparing to dry fire and you've taken all the right steps to ensure the gun is ready to dry fire, then that's different. But clearly that's not the case here.

A "display" photo of a gun with your finger on the trigger will always garner a response of this kind.

Bozwell · January 6, 2012, 03:11 PM

I deleted a longer post to avoid derailing this thread, but so long as you properly safety checked the firearm, I wouldn't say it's the end of the world to have your finger on the trigger in a photo. Dry firing with a safety-checked gun and posing for a photo with a safety-checked gun aren't tangibly different in my mind.

larryh1108 · January 6, 2012, 05:04 PM

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Dry firing with a safety-checked gun and posing for a photo with a safety-checked gun aren't tangibly different in my mind.

...but I feel there is a difference. I'll call it muscle memory like many things we do with firearms and in life. Even with dry firing, the finger should be out of the trigger guard until you have a sight picture. That's part of the exercise. It does teach us to hold a gun without our finger on the trigger until ready to fire whenever we are holding one, no matter what we are doing with it. It's even got to a point, with me, that when I am cleaning my gun and it is totally detailed stripped, I still hold the empty frame with my finger along side the guard. When I realize what I am doing I chuckle to myself but I won't change the muscle memory. I feel it is that important and believe that strongly in muscle memory and gun safety.

Bozwell · January 6, 2012, 06:52 PM

After deleting a second long post, I think I've just come to terms with the fact that it's a pet peeve of mine when people overcorrect (in my mind) people's photographs and videos and it's probably irrational that it annoys me so much.

I will say that if I saw him with his finger on the trigger walking around the range, I'd agree there's a problem and mention it to him (or have a range officer do so), but I disagree that it's a problem when it's a photo of a finger on the trigger of a safety-checked gun, at least not a problem worth getting on someone's case about. I try and ingrain the same habits you do as far as keeping my finger off the trigger, but I don't sweat it if I see a photo or a youtube video where someone's finger is on the trigger of a safety-checked firearm. There are a lot of things I believe I'm correct in doing differently from other people, but I don't try and correct them unless it's something blatantly unsafe. On that note, let's get back to pictures (hopefully without fingers on the triggers

) and praise of CZ's.

larryh1108 · January 6, 2012, 09:40 PM

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I bought my very first handgun after much research

If I didn't see this I would have kept my mouth shut.

I do agree that it's time to get back to pictures of the beautiful CZ firearms.

MrIzhevsk · January 6, 2012, 10:12 PM

Right then back to the pics!

I thought this would be an interesting comparison; The grips on the PCR are from the CZ-USA website, the grips on the 1911 are from our friend Hakan Pek and are made from Turkish Walnut.

To my admittedly untrained eyes, they seem pretty comparable, of course, the Turkish Walnut grips have a nicer finish, and feel smoother.

larryh1108 · January 6, 2012, 10:25 PM

I am also a fan of the CZ custom grips. I still can't understand why the CZ line flies so far under the radar with gun owners. I'll put CZ up against almost every gun maker. I guess CZ doesn't market as well as Kimber and Springfield, et al?

ChefJeff1 · January 9, 2012, 11:05 PM

So, do the PCR's come with the stainless trigger now? I had one but sold it about 6 years to buy my hunting rifle and it had a black trigger.

Another question.......do the full size models and the compact models have the same handgrip feel? I mean from where the grip touches your palm to where your finger touches the trigger. I don't mean the size of the grip from top to bottom but from front to back.

Flounda · January 15, 2012, 11:07 PM

Showing off grips. Hope this photo makes it.

Flounda · January 15, 2012, 11:24 PM

Experimenting with posting photos

Stringfellow · February 2, 2012, 04:13 AM

Bump.

dcarch · February 2, 2012, 02:31 PM

^Nice!

armoredman · February 2, 2012, 02:34 PM

Good bump.

DinosaurJones · February 11, 2012, 07:42 PM

LongTimeGone · February 12, 2012, 12:19 AM

Added a 452 Scout .22lr to the 452 Trainer.

The scope is a Vortex Crossfire 4-12x40AO

el Godfather · February 12, 2012, 03:56 PM

Hi
I just wanted to check in the CZ Club.

I own three CZ pistols. A Czechmate, CZ 75D Compact dual tone and a CZ NFA class weapon.

Great company and great guns- no doubt.

CZguy · February 12, 2012, 11:55 PM

Welcome el Godfather,

Photos when you have time please.

January 5, 2012, 03:28 PM	#1854
larryh1108 Member Join Date: August 29, 2008 Location: Litchfield County, CT Posts: 1,191	Welcome to the CZ club, mojo. It looks like you bought a beautiful CZ. I hope it gives you years of good shooting. However, since this is your first handgun, you need to follow proper handling and keep that finger off the trigger until you intend to fire it. Just some friendly advice from a fellow CZ lover. __________________ Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

January 5, 2012, 10:55 PM	#1857
CZguy Member Join Date: March 25, 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,848	mojo357, Welcome to the high road. Looks like you got a CZ 82 in really good shape. __________________ "When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash." "Directions to heaven. Turn right, and go straight."

January 6, 2012, 10:12 PM	#1864
MrIzhevsk Member Join Date: January 14, 2008 Location: NOVA Posts: 314	Right then back to the pics! I thought this would be an interesting comparison; The grips on the PCR are from the CZ-USA website, the grips on the 1911 are from our friend Hakan Pek and are made from Turkish Walnut. To my admittedly untrained eyes, they seem pretty comparable, of course, the Turkish Walnut grips have a nicer finish, and feel smoother. __________________ Eat well, stay fit, die anyway.

January 6, 2012, 10:25 PM	#1865
larryh1108 Member Join Date: August 29, 2008 Location: Litchfield County, CT Posts: 1,191	I am also a fan of the CZ custom grips. I still can't understand why the CZ line flies so far under the radar with gun owners. I'll put CZ up against almost every gun maker. I guess CZ doesn't market as well as Kimber and Springfield, et al? __________________ Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

January 9, 2012, 11:05 PM	#1866
ChefJeff1 Member Join Date: January 8, 2004 Location: Mountains of Idaho Posts: 661	pcr trigger So, do the PCR's come with the stainless trigger now? I had one but sold it about 6 years to buy my hunting rifle and it had a black trigger. Another question.......do the full size models and the compact models have the same handgrip feel? I mean from where the grip touches your palm to where your finger touches the trigger. I don't mean the size of the grip from top to bottom but from front to back. __________________ Eat Organic Bread!

January 1, 2012, 03:00 AM	#1851
dancz Member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Posts: 96	I guess it does show trust that we are allowed to own full autos but not shoot them but it would be the same as you being able to own a car that can go faster than the speed limit. They trust that you won’t speed and punish you if you do. The punishment for us caught using full autos would be lost of licence and confiscation of all firearms. And they don’t buy them either as they are cut up. The restraint in not using them is easy when I could lose everything I own. As you see above it would be costly if I lost my guns. It is a shame that we can never fire our full autos but it is what it is. There are far worse places for gun restrictions. We have argued for a couple of days now and then where we could perhaps go to a range and fire them under strict control but to date this has not happened. The only people that can use full autos here are the police and military. Pocket pistols are not used for pistol matches here so these can’t be used either.

January 5, 2012, 12:18 PM	#1853
mojo357 Member Join Date: December 29, 2011 Location: PA Posts: 28	I bought my very first handgun after much research. I chose the CZ-82 for its reputed reliability and accuracy, as well as the ready availability of ammo. It was also, importantly, well within my budget, a bargain at its C&R price. I haven't shot it yet but did buy some extra magazines.

January 5, 2012, 08:48 PM	#1855
tekarra Member Join Date: February 13, 2007 Posts: 1,141	Welcome to the cZ club. The 82 is a great little pistol.

January 5, 2012, 10:31 PM	#1856
hAkron Member Join Date: December 11, 2010 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 1,252	Just noticed the CZ club thread was on page "75"

January 6, 2012, 12:50 PM	#1858
mojo357 Member Join Date: December 29, 2011 Location: PA Posts: 28	Thanks, guys. Just to ease your minds the gun was not loaded when I took the pic. Not even one in the chamber. I'm waiting for my NRA safety guide to arrive before I even load it. Might even take a course.

January 6, 2012, 03:11 PM	#1860
Bozwell Member Join Date: July 16, 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 339	I deleted a longer post to avoid derailing this thread, but so long as you properly safety checked the firearm, I wouldn't say it's the end of the world to have your finger on the trigger in a photo. Dry firing with a safety-checked gun and posing for a photo with a safety-checked gun aren't tangibly different in my mind.

January 6, 2012, 06:52 PM	#1862
Bozwell Member Join Date: July 16, 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 339	After deleting a second long post, I think I've just come to terms with the fact that it's a pet peeve of mine when people overcorrect (in my mind) people's photographs and videos and it's probably irrational that it annoys me so much. I will say that if I saw him with his finger on the trigger walking around the range, I'd agree there's a problem and mention it to him (or have a range officer do so), but I disagree that it's a problem when it's a photo of a finger on the trigger of a safety-checked gun, at least not a problem worth getting on someone's case about. I try and ingrain the same habits you do as far as keeping my finger off the trigger, but I don't sweat it if I see a photo or a youtube video where someone's finger is on the trigger of a safety-checked firearm. There are a lot of things I believe I'm correct in doing differently from other people, but I don't try and correct them unless it's something blatantly unsafe. On that note, let's get back to pictures (hopefully without fingers on the triggers ) and praise of CZ's.

February 2, 2012, 04:13 AM	#1869
Stringfellow Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Location: the Bay Area Posts: 323	Bump. __________________ Well-armed liberal

February 2, 2012, 02:31 PM	#1870
dcarch Member Join Date: October 2, 2010 Location: The Hawkeye State Posts: 993	^Nice! __________________ Iowa State Code 10465A: All persons operating a truck, or other vehicle with a cab and/or cargo bay area shall be required to raise at least two fingers in cordial acknowledgment to other drivers while utilizing all public roads within the state of Iowa. This law does not apply to residents of cities with a population exceeding 7,500 persons.

February 2, 2012, 02:34 PM	#1871
armoredman Member Join Date: November 19, 2003 Location: proud to be in AZ Posts: 14,977	Good bump. __________________ If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous? http://czfirearms.us/ The original CZ Forum, new address.

February 11, 2012, 07:42 PM	#1872
DinosaurJones Member Join Date: December 7, 2009 Location: SWVA Posts: 47

February 12, 2012, 12:19 AM	#1873
LongTimeGone Member Join Date: May 27, 2011 Posts: 146	Added a 452 Scout .22lr to the 452 Trainer. The scope is a Vortex Crossfire 4-12x40AO

February 12, 2012, 03:56 PM	#1874
el Godfather Member Join Date: February 4, 2012 Posts: 1,064	Hi I just wanted to check in the CZ Club. I own three CZ pistols. A Czechmate, CZ 75D Compact dual tone and a CZ NFA class weapon. Great company and great guns- no doubt.

February 12, 2012, 11:55 PM	#1875
CZguy Member Join Date: March 25, 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,848	Welcome el Godfather, Photos when you have time please. __________________ "When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash." "Directions to heaven. Turn right, and go straight."