The CZ Club - Page 82

Kabal · November 27, 2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryh1108

Czech names:

Zelenka - little innocent one

Ivana - God is gracious

Milena - The favored one

Dusana - a spirit or soul

Eliska - truthful

Thanks, Larry! I like the name "Zelenka" and its meaning

By the way, it's a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Viper made by Waffen Oschatz.

Bohemus · December 5, 2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabal

Thanks, Larry! I like the name "Zelenka" and its meaning

By the way, it's a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Viper made by Waffen Oschatz.

That should be corrected: Zelenka is not female name but male surname, means "green one". Properly used: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Radek_Zelenka

My suggestion: Šárka

btw: Awesom longslide Shadow, thats exactly the one I would like to own.

Kabal · December 5, 2012, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohemus

That should be corrected: Zelenka is not female name but male surname, means "green one". Properly used: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Radek_Zelenka

My suggestion: Šárka

btw: Awesom longslide Shadow, thats exactly the one I would like to own.

Gratias tibi ago, Bohemus!
You prevented me from giving my gun a sex change

"The mythical warrior-maiden of Bohemia"... sounds great!

Thanks, I love the Viper and I can't recommend it highly enough for target shooting. They make them in very small quantities, and only every few months, but this gun is worth the wait.

Bohemus · December 6, 2012, 04:49 AM

Make sure it sounds Great!
Afaik Viper is completed in Germany and its only Shadow "lower" with TS "upper", that should be easy job for any gunsmith. Where are you actualy from?

Kabal · December 6, 2012, 09:50 AM

As you say, the Viper uses a Shadow lower, but that's no TS upper. I think the upper is Waffen Oschatz's own design. It holds a full-length 6"/152mm barrel, and it has a barrel bushing similar to a 1911.
The TS uses as 5.4" barrel, as far as I know.

On czfirearms.us, there's a thread by someone who put a TS upper on a Shadow lower, so I'm sure this can be done, but I don't know if any gunsmith could do it.

The Viper is made by Waffen-Oschatz:
http://www.waffen-oschatz.de/index.php?site=47&sub1=114

It is distributed mainly via Frankonia:
http://www.frankonia.de/375980/22764...eNumber=152252

They also make a 6" CZ 75 Sport II and a 6" CZ 97 Sport, based on the CZ 75B and the CZ 97B respectively.
The CZ 75 Sport II is the most common of these guns. I've seen used ones for sale at more affordable prices.

I'm from Nuremberg, by the way. Almost from your neighborhood

g_one · December 6, 2012, 09:51 AM

Here's a question for you CZ'ers - how does the standard, full-size model (CZ-75B iirc) compare in SIZE ONLY to the Browning Hi-Power? Beretta 92?

Pilot · December 6, 2012, 10:14 AM

I find the BHP a bit slimmer and more compact than the 75B, and 92FS. I find the grip of the 75B a little narrower than the 92FS, with better balance also, but again the BHP is slimmest.

The Hi Power is a marvel of gun architecture. It shoots like a full size service pistol, which it is, but is well sized for the 9MM round. IMHO, it compares more to the CZ Compact line.

tekarra · December 6, 2012, 08:17 PM

The BHP and the cZ75 are very comparable in size. If anything, the BHP may be slight smaller but not much. I find the BHP grip to feel smaller than the cZ but I hae not measured the circumference. I do not know how they compare to the Beretta.

Sergei Mosin · December 6, 2012, 08:40 PM

The Hi Power is slightly smaller than the CZ 75, which is in turn slightly smaller than the M9. The Hi Power is a good deal smaller than the M9. I enjoy shooting all three.

FIVETWOSEVEN · December 17, 2012, 09:36 PM

I traded my used XD-40 for a brand new, still in the packing grease CZ75 with quite a few extras. I'm very happy with my new gun and did well in the trade. How do I carry it with the hammer down? All the way or at half cock?

777TRUTH · December 18, 2012, 05:05 PM

Quote:

How do I carry it with the hammer down? All the way or at half cock?

CZ's are designed to be carried half cocked.

Some like to carry cocked and locked but it's not for me.

dondavis3 · December 18, 2012, 06:10 PM

I don't carry cocked & locked either

FIVETWOSEVEN · December 19, 2012, 02:46 PM

I actually answered myself by finding a post I made over a year ago. Wasn't quite sure when I got this but now I am. Lowering the hammer to half is a breeze and I don't worry about slipping with my thumb in the way. I would be fine carrying it C/L but since this is my first DA/SA, I'd figure I would try DA out and I liked it, didn't notice it when doing draw and shoot drills.

Roadking Rider · December 19, 2012, 03:11 PM

Love the guns I call Charlie Zulu's
CZ75B
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CZ82
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CZPO-1
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floydster · December 19, 2012, 08:05 PM

Carry half cocked.

Smokeyloads

powder · December 20, 2012, 06:50 PM

Compact runs israeli...nice pics...

Zsnark · December 21, 2012, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot

I find the BHP a bit slimmer and more compact than the 75B, and 92FS. I find the grip of the 75B a little narrower than the 92FS, with better balance also, but again the BHP is slimmest.

The Hi Power is a marvel of gun architecture. It shoots like a full size service pistol, which it is, but is well sized for the 9MM round. IMHO, it compares more to the CZ Compact line.

Got a Brng Hi-Pwr (used to be my favorite), got a CZ85 (my current favorite standard size), had a Beretta 92 (way too big for a 9MM). To me the Brng and the 85 are about the same. The beretta is way oversized for a 9mm. Just one guys opinion.

AAW

MacTech · December 22, 2012, 10:57 AM

I'm back up to two CZ's again, added a 452 Scout back to the collection to replace the one I traded for some stupid, shortsighted reason, this Scout is on my short "never sell" list

My humble CZ collection now consists of two 452's, an Ultralux and a Scout, CZ's longest and shortest 452's

I'll probably restock the Scout in a full size stock as it is for me, not my niece or nephew, and of course I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to put it in a folding stock, something similar to the M1 Carbine folding stock, even though I HATE the whole "tacti-foolish" thing, it would be for purely functional reasons, not tacti-fooling it

CZguy · December 22, 2012, 01:46 PM

I bought a Scout several years ago for the Grandchildren to shoot. I liked it so much that I considered restocking it also. It is just so compact and handy.

Then I realized that CZ made the American model with a sixteen inch threaded barrel. It's the perfect walking around in the woods rifle.

Of course since it was threaded I had to get a silencer.

Dr_2_B · December 23, 2012, 10:27 PM

Wow this is one long thread.

Zsnark · December 25, 2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsnark

Got a Brng Hi-Pwr (used to be my favorite), got a CZ85 (my current favorite standard size), had a Beretta 92 (way too big for a 9MM). To me the Brng and the 85 are about the same. The beretta is way oversized for a 9mm. Just one guys opinion.

AAW

You're probably right about the HiPwr being slimmer than the 75/85 but I am a large guy (especially since I've added about 35 lbs over ther last decade), so the difference is minimal for CC. I love the 75Compact. If I carried regularly it would be my best friend.

As an aside, all the plastic gun and latest 9s seem to chuncky to me. How about you?

9 fingers · December 25, 2012, 04:06 PM

Feel slightly humbled by DanCZ's collection but I own a 75b and am picking up an 83 next week. Also have 9 CZ rifles and a really neat BRNO 611 WMR semi auto. CZs rule! Umm, kinda new here, so hi!
9 fingers

txgunsuscg · March 1, 2013, 09:53 PM

Just traded a CZ Compact for a P-01 with a guy here on THR. Threw a set of VZs on it and took it to the range. Very happy with the trade. Oh, and I have a set of Hakan Peks that came off the gun if anyone is interested...

PlaneJain · March 1, 2013, 10:00 PM

I lust luv the CZ design guns. For me, they are the best auto handgun out there.
I own a Springfield P9 in 40S&W, a CZ Compact 9mm, and a Tanfoglio 9mm.

CZ-Guy · March 1, 2013, 11:12 PM

I'm sure we've all had those experiences where we sold a gun, only to immediately realize it was a BIG mistake. Well, I've had a few of those myself. But the two that hurt the most were getting rid of my mint condition CZ 27 and unfired NIB (without the box) CZ 1945. I sold them both the same day to two great individuals on the Left Coast.

Not every story has a sad ending. I was VERY fortunate to receive one of my babies back. Wearing, of course, a new set of Turkish Walnut grips. I'm still holding out hope that the CZ 1945 will someday find its way back home...

For now, here's some CZ 27 love...

December 6, 2012, 04:49 AM	#2029
Bohemus Member Join Date: September 14, 2009 Location: Mater Urbium, Bohemia Posts: 348	Make sure it sounds Great! Afaik Viper is completed in Germany and its only Shadow "lower" with TS "upper", that should be easy job for any gunsmith. Where are you actualy from? __________________ Sa vz.58 >> 158

December 6, 2012, 09:51 AM	#2031
g_one Member Join Date: October 24, 2011 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 269	Here's a question for you CZ'ers - how does the standard, full-size model (CZ-75B iirc) compare in SIZE ONLY to the Browning Hi-Power? Beretta 92? __________________ The Revolution: A Manifesto // techdirt

December 6, 2012, 10:14 AM	#2032
Pilot Member Join Date: December 29, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 5,326	I find the BHP a bit slimmer and more compact than the 75B, and 92FS. I find the grip of the 75B a little narrower than the 92FS, with better balance also, but again the BHP is slimmest. The Hi Power is a marvel of gun architecture. It shoots like a full size service pistol, which it is, but is well sized for the 9MM round. IMHO, it compares more to the CZ Compact line. __________________ Pilot

December 6, 2012, 08:40 PM	#2034
Sergei Mosin Member Join Date: October 7, 2011 Posts: 499	The Hi Power is slightly smaller than the CZ 75, which is in turn slightly smaller than the M9. The Hi Power is a good deal smaller than the M9. I enjoy shooting all three. __________________ "The great object is that every man be armed." - Patrick Henry

December 17, 2012, 09:36 PM	#2035
FIVETWOSEVEN Member Join Date: August 28, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 4,748	I traded my used XD-40 for a brand new, still in the packing grease CZ75 with quite a few extras. I'm very happy with my new gun and did well in the trade. How do I carry it with the hammer down? All the way or at half cock? __________________ Why are we allowed to own cars that can go over 100 MPH? Who, besides the military and police, needs to have a race car? Many people die each year from race cars, we don't have a need such high powered cars so they should be banned. Those that own race cars think that they are Vin Diesel and are dangerous to society. Last edited by FIVETWOSEVEN; December 18, 2012 at 12:07 AM.

December 6, 2012, 09:50 AM	#2030
Kabal Member Join Date: November 24, 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 49	As you say, the Viper uses a Shadow lower, but that's no TS upper. I think the upper is Waffen Oschatz's own design. It holds a full-length 6"/152mm barrel, and it has a barrel bushing similar to a 1911. The TS uses as 5.4" barrel, as far as I know. On czfirearms.us, there's a thread by someone who put a TS upper on a Shadow lower, so I'm sure this can be done, but I don't know if any gunsmith could do it. The Viper is made by Waffen-Oschatz: http://www.waffen-oschatz.de/index.php?site=47&sub1=114 It is distributed mainly via Frankonia: http://www.frankonia.de/375980/22764...eNumber=152252 They also make a 6" CZ 75 Sport II and a 6" CZ 97 Sport, based on the CZ 75B and the CZ 97B respectively. The CZ 75 Sport II is the most common of these guns. I've seen used ones for sale at more affordable prices. I'm from Nuremberg, by the way. Almost from your neighborhood

December 6, 2012, 08:17 PM	#2033
tekarra Member Join Date: February 13, 2007 Posts: 1,141	The BHP and the cZ75 are very comparable in size. If anything, the BHP may be slight smaller but not much. I find the BHP grip to feel smaller than the cZ but I hae not measured the circumference. I do not know how they compare to the Beretta.

December 18, 2012, 06:10 PM	#2037
dondavis3 Member Join Date: October 28, 2009 Location: Dallas / Forth Worth Area Posts: 588	I don't carry cocked & locked either

December 19, 2012, 02:46 PM	#2038
FIVETWOSEVEN Member Join Date: August 28, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 4,748	I actually answered myself by finding a post I made over a year ago. Wasn't quite sure when I got this but now I am. Lowering the hammer to half is a breeze and I don't worry about slipping with my thumb in the way. I would be fine carrying it C/L but since this is my first DA/SA, I'd figure I would try DA out and I liked it, didn't notice it when doing draw and shoot drills. __________________ Why are we allowed to own cars that can go over 100 MPH? Who, besides the military and police, needs to have a race car? Many people die each year from race cars, we don't have a need such high powered cars so they should be banned. Those that own race cars think that they are Vin Diesel and are dangerous to society.

December 19, 2012, 03:11 PM	#2039
Roadking Rider Member Join Date: June 12, 2012 Posts: 344	Love the guns I call Charlie Zulu's CZ75B rifles 005 (640x478).jpg CZ82 1911 and friends 001.jpg CZPO-1 CZPO-1 006.jpg

December 19, 2012, 08:05 PM	#2040
floydster Member Join Date: January 13, 2008 Location: Central, Mn. Posts: 1,433	Carry half cocked. Smokeyloads __________________ Smokeyloads

December 20, 2012, 06:50 PM	#2041
powder Member Join Date: August 6, 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 437	Compact runs israeli...nice pics... __________________ http://content.usatoday.com/communit...n-bankruptcy/1 http://www.youtube.com/user/AlexJonesInfoHD

December 22, 2012, 10:57 AM	#2043
MacTech Member Join Date: August 22, 2008 Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 623	I'm back up to two CZ's again, added a 452 Scout back to the collection to replace the one I traded for some stupid, shortsighted reason, this Scout is on my short "never sell" list My humble CZ collection now consists of two 452's, an Ultralux and a Scout, CZ's longest and shortest 452's I'll probably restock the Scout in a full size stock as it is for me, not my niece or nephew, and of course I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to put it in a folding stock, something similar to the M1 Carbine folding stock, even though I HATE the whole "tacti-foolish" thing, it would be for purely functional reasons, not tacti-fooling it __________________ Pvt. Baldrick; You know they say that somewhere out there, there's a bullet with your name on it?, I thought if I OWNED the bullet with my name on it, then I'd never get shot with it...

December 22, 2012, 01:46 PM	#2044
CZguy Member Join Date: March 25, 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,848	I bought a Scout several years ago for the Grandchildren to shoot. I liked it so much that I considered restocking it also. It is just so compact and handy. Then I realized that CZ made the American model with a sixteen inch threaded barrel. It's the perfect walking around in the woods rifle. Of course since it was threaded I had to get a silencer. __________________ "When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash." "Directions to heaven. Turn right, and go straight."

December 23, 2012, 10:27 PM	#2045
Dr_2_B Member Join Date: January 4, 2006 Location: midwest Posts: 1,816	Wow this is one long thread. __________________ If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head. - adapted from Francois Guisot (often wrongly attributed to Winston Churchill)

December 25, 2012, 04:06 PM	#2047
9 fingers Member Join Date: March 4, 2012 Posts: 12	Feel slightly humbled by DanCZ's collection but I own a 75b and am picking up an 83 next week. Also have 9 CZ rifles and a really neat BRNO 611 WMR semi auto. CZs rule! Umm, kinda new here, so hi! 9 fingers

March 1, 2013, 09:53 PM	#2048
txgunsuscg Member Join Date: January 1, 2011 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 447	Just traded a CZ Compact for a P-01 with a guy here on THR. Threw a set of VZs on it and took it to the range. Very happy with the trade. Oh, and I have a set of Hakan Peks that came off the gun if anyone is interested... __________________ Either with your shield or on it. 1911 armorer, Glock Armorer, NRA Life Member, NRA Pistol Instructor.

March 1, 2013, 10:00 PM	#2049
PlaneJain Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: A liddo Northwest of you Posts: 121	I lust luv the CZ design guns. For me, they are the best auto handgun out there. I own a Springfield P9 in 40S&W, a CZ Compact 9mm, and a Tanfoglio 9mm. __________________ Laus Deo

March 1, 2013, 11:12 PM	#2050
CZ-Guy Member Join Date: January 25, 2011 Location: Southwest Missouri, USA Posts: 63	I'm sure we've all had those experiences where we sold a gun, only to immediately realize it was a BIG mistake. Well, I've had a few of those myself. But the two that hurt the most were getting rid of my mint condition CZ 27 and unfired NIB (without the box) CZ 1945. I sold them both the same day to two great individuals on the Left Coast. Not every story has a sad ending. I was VERY fortunate to receive one of my babies back. Wearing, of course, a new set of Turkish Walnut grips. I'm still holding out hope that the CZ 1945 will someday find its way back home... For now, here's some CZ 27 love...