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Old May 15, 2016, 08:16 PM   #1
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Conical 1860 bullet mold

What mold are you guys using for your conicals or do you buy them pre cast?
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Old May 15, 2016, 09:40 PM   #2
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IIRC my .44 bullet molds are Uberti, but others make similar molds.
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Old May 15, 2016, 10:08 PM   #3
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Lee makes a cheap 45-200 but then you get what you pay for.

Accurate moulds make a variety of sizes and styles for BP
But are rather expensive and you can design your own or have theirs modified.

I started with the 45-195 but have settled on the 45-190's with a minor modification in dimensions.

I like them fairly easy to load, can get 30 / 35 gr powder under it.
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Old May 15, 2016, 10:55 PM   #4
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Big Lube bullets give excellent results...they have several designs. I shoot them almost exclusively in my Ruger Old Army and my Uberti Remington.

You can buy the mold or buy them pre-cast from several makers he has listed on this sight.

https://www.biglube.com/
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Old May 16, 2016, 09:04 AM   #5
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Kaido Conicals, none better. Proven big-game killer.
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Old May 16, 2016, 09:44 AM   #6
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But quite pricy at $50/100 + shipping. And the molds are often hard to get as Lee won't make his custom molds until he has enough demand, and then if they have the time.

I tried to buy his 240 grn mold but after months gave up and went to Accurate Molds.

DD4 sells his at a much more reasonable price.
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Old May 16, 2016, 01:07 PM   #7
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I have a box of buffalo 230gr conicals that are pre-lubed but look promising. So far so good in the 1860 with 35 grs of 2f pyrodex 'short term' and 30 grains and a dry wad short term.
My goal is something like Kaido's conical. Haven't had them on chrono. Damage looks right for medium sized game all day long.
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Old May 16, 2016, 06:36 PM   #8
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I to 2nd accurate molds
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Old May 16, 2016, 08:52 PM   #9
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What mold do you guys use from accurate? Do you have the number?
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Old May 16, 2016, 10:52 PM   #10
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Depends on what your purpose is.

I designed mine with a Keith-like wide meplat knowing that the wider it is the wider the wound channel if there is no expansion. But mine are unproven as far as I know.

This is one of mine:

http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_deta...=45-195C-D.png

It does well in my ROA with 35 grns of 3F Olde E or T7 and 30 grns in my Pietta Remington NMA.
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Old May 17, 2016, 08:38 AM   #11
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But quite pricy at $50/100 + shipping.
Kaido has rescinded the pledge that buyers of his mold do not sell the boolits to the public. It's possible to buy them from any number of individuals that already have the molds and they set their own price.

Last time I checked Rodwa, Kaido has had that mold in stock for over a year now. Do promote your mold just quit saying that Kaido's molds are not available unless your information is current.

Someone mentioned medium game with the old Buffalo Bullets. The Kaido conicals penetrated 15 water jugs and kept on going. The best a .30-06 can muster is nine. A Lee conical if memory serves penetrates less than 9.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel, the Kaido Conical is a proven BIG game killer already.
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Old May 17, 2016, 09:41 AM   #12
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If you reread my post you'll notice I said it wasn't available at the time I was interested.
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Old May 17, 2016, 10:58 AM   #13
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"Someone mentioned medium game with the old Buffalo Bullets. The Kaido conicals penetrated 15 water jugs and kept on going. The best a .30-06 can muster is nine. A Lee conical if memory serves penetrates less than 9. "




What bullet was used in the 30-06?
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Old May 17, 2016, 02:12 PM   #14
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I read your post Rodwha and all the others.

tbob38, I do not remember but a video of the test is on youtube.
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Old May 17, 2016, 06:01 PM   #15
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I can say that Rodwa's design certainly looks promising... I havent had the chance to hunt with them or to do any serious or even semi serious testing, but I am ITCHING to do so!

At the TIME that I started talking to Bob about them and he was nice enough to make some up for me to try out, Kaido's where WILDLY expensive and the molds impossible to to get. Wouldnt have done me any good if I could have gotten them since I am not set up to cast.

Im glad to see that has loosened up and if I can find and afford them I'd love to FINALLY try his out as well, but from what little first hand experience I have had the chance to get, Rodwa's WFN rounds are absolutely nothing to sneeze at...
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Old May 17, 2016, 06:31 PM   #16
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Then you would have realized I hadn't said they currently weren't available as you suggested. Indeed they have been unavailable many times and for long stretches. I haven't been interested anymore and so I have no need to stay in the know.
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Old May 18, 2016, 10:50 AM   #17
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Stormson, if you find some that we can afford (LOL) let me know!
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