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Old November 26, 2010, 07:04 PM   #2576
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Info on my gun please.

a) 38 Special
b) 2
c) round
d) 6
e) fixed
f) D5738XX
g) 12-2

The pic isn't of my gun but it looks exactly the same.
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Old November 26, 2010, 07:21 PM   #2577
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Ammo

I have 5 rounds of Federal 38 Special +P ammo, in silver casings. Also a few Federal 38 Special in silver casings and then a bunch of ammo in brass casings that have R A 7 6 on top of the bullets. They're in a box that says BALL caliber .38 special m41. Just wondering about the ammo and if I shouldn't use the +P or whatever... Sorry, I'm a newbie.
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Old November 26, 2010, 08:14 PM   #2578
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aaronsham your born date is year model 1967/8. The D series started in 1967. 1968 they deleted the diamond grip.

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Old November 27, 2010, 08:45 PM   #2579
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Bboomer:
Correct, you have a 5 screw post war .38 Military & Police (pre-model 10) dating to 1948/49.
The markings under the crane are assembly numbers, used to track parts in the factory. They have no meaning after the gun is completed.

aaronsham:
Your Model 12-2 .38 Military & Police Airweight was manufactured in 1973 or 1974. Serial range for those years was D510000 to D659901.
The Model 12-2 has a slightly thinner grip frame than the steel K frame guns, so aftermarket K frame grips will not fit properly.
The Model 12 has an aluminum frame, regular use of PlusP ammo can result in frame stretching.
Common advice on gun forums is to shoot a cylinder full of PlusP for familiarisation, then practise with standard pressure loads, while carrying PlusP for self defence. Or you can buy a quality standard pressure defensive load such as the Federal Nyclad.
The RA 76 stamped ammo may not be in the original box. IIRC M41 ammo is a 158 grain steel jacketed ammo issued from 1941 to the 1950s, when the 130 grain FMJ replaced it (this may not be correct) I am assuming the 76 in the headstamp refers to 1976, which makes me think it has been repackaged.
Check the RA76 load with a magnet. If the rounds are magnetic it has a steel jacket and I would not fire it in an alloy framed gun. If non magnetic then shoot them off and get some decent carry ammo.
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Old November 27, 2010, 08:52 PM   #2580
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aaronsham:
A quick google search shows that RA76 refers to manufacturer Remington Arms in 1976 & the M41 designation was given to the 130 grain load as well.

So you have a box of low powered .38 Special FMJ ammo. Do the magnet test, if it passes it is good to shoot.
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Old November 27, 2010, 09:49 PM   #2581
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Thanks for the help.

I got a magnet off the fridge and it didn't stick to any of my shells. If those RA76 shells are from 1976, are they safe to shoot? I appreciate all the info. Thank you.
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Old November 28, 2010, 06:54 AM   #2582
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If the have been stored in reasonable conditions they will be safe to shoot. I've shot plenty of ammo from the 1950s in rifle and revolver calibers with no problems.
If they show signs of water damage or corrosion then don't shoot them, otherwise go ahead.
If they came with the gun then it appears that the previous owner used the PlusP for carry, standard pressure for training rule.
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Old November 28, 2010, 09:13 AM   #2583
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Radagast I agree on the the born date you gave aronsham. I looked the numbers up and I was looking at the wrong S/N numbers group. But yea his m12 is dated yr mod '73/74. I'm 20 yrs older than his pistol.

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Old November 28, 2010, 09:17 AM   #2584
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No problem, I've made the same mistake a few times in this thread and have had to go back and correct it.
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Old November 28, 2010, 09:18 AM   #2585
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Radagast... you think that my pre-10 will handle +P's ? Its not likely that I'll be shooting 'em though. However I do have a couple boxes loaded up for other 38's/'357's.

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Old November 28, 2010, 09:30 AM   #2586
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awl dang man......... you got me to looking at dates and I just realized that I just turned 56 today. Bull sh-- !
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Old November 28, 2010, 11:02 AM   #2587
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Bboomer:
1) Congrats on reaching the halfway mark.

2) S&W don't recommend use of PlusP in guns made before 1957. THR member SaxonPig has fired some 1200 rounds of PlusP through a prewar gun with no ill effects, he also recommends against using PlusP in pre 1930 guns.
I think S&W chose the introduction of model numbers in 1957 as an easy cut off date. By the time your gun was produced more than two million M&Ps had been manufactured and the most significant changes (internal hammer block, short action, heat treatment) had all been bedded down. I'm personally confident that your gun is safe to shoot with PlusP, although I would avoid +P+ if it was my gun. But, I am not a lawyer or an engineer, nor do I play one on the internet. It's your call to make.
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Old November 30, 2010, 02:55 AM   #2588
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Model 19-3
6in barrel
.357/.38
blue finish
serial # 2k97770
black grip round

will post pic when I get on my computer tomorrow.
I'm posting from my iPhone right now.
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Old November 30, 2010, 05:09 AM   #2589
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Model 63 no dash. Adj sights. 4in barrel. 6-shot .22lr. Serial #m1415xx. Thanks!
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Old November 30, 2010, 10:09 PM   #2590
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Hi, new to the site and looking for info on a 38 i recently bought.

a) S&W .38 special ctg (on barrel)
b) 6" (from cylinder to muzzle)
c) grips shape (round)
d) 6 Shot
e) fixed sights.
f) serial number MX14xx on the bottom of the grip
g) number under the crane C3429xx

Thanks for any help , Jim
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Old December 1, 2010, 07:01 AM   #2591
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dvldog:
I am assuming you have the two numbers switched. C3429xx is the serial number and should be present on the bottom of the grip frame, Mx14xx would be an assembly number, which are usually found stamped under the yoke.

You have a Postwar .38 Military & Police manufactured between 1954 & 1956. Serial range for those years was C277555 to C402923.

If the number on the butt is Mx14xx then either a) the gun has been defaced and a new number stamped on it, or b) the gun is a .22lr on the small J frame. S&W did not make a .38 special with an M serial prefix.

Assuming the serial number has been modified on the butt, then the correct serial number is still C3429xx, S&W often stamped the number under the crane, on the cylinder face and on the underside of the barrel.
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TwoNiner:
Your Model 63 .22/32 Kit Gun Stainless was manufactured in 1980 or 1981. Serial range for those years was M130001 to M160000.

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Tapoutking:
Your Model 19-3 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1972.
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Old December 1, 2010, 09:36 AM   #2592
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Once again into the breach

Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector 1905 (?)
Six shooter
.38 special
6 inch barrel
serial number 2345XX

Thanks in advance,

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Old December 2, 2010, 07:57 AM   #2593
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You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 3rd Change manufactured between 1909 & 1915 in the serial range 14690 to 241703, so 1914 or 1915 seems likely.
As usual I'll repeat the warnings: This gun pre-dates heat treatment of cylinders, so stick to standard pressure lead only loads. It also pre-dates the internal hammer block safety, if kept loaded it would be prudent to leave the chamber under the hammer empty.
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Old December 2, 2010, 09:22 PM   #2594
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Here is a couple that I'd like to know. Thank you in advance.

Model 14-3
a) .38 special
b) 6 inch
c) square
d) 6 shooter
e) adjustable
f) s/n 14K13xx
g) 14-3

Model 30-1
a) .32 S&W Long
b) 3 inch
c) round
d) 6 shooter
e) adjustable
f) s/n H527xx
g) 30-1
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Old December 3, 2010, 04:32 AM   #2595
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Your Model 30-1 .32 Hand Ejector was manufactured in 1971 or 1972. Serial range for those years was H30002 to H60000, so 1972 seems likely. The -1 refers to yoru gun being built on the J frame, earlier versions were manufactured on the smaller I frame.

Your Model 14-3 K38 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1977.
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Old December 3, 2010, 01:40 PM   #2596
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.38 Special
4" barrel
Grips sure look square
6-shot
Fixed sight
C990060 on the bottom of the grip frame
Model 10-6

Here are some pics to help ID it. Thanks a lot.
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Old December 3, 2010, 04:58 PM   #2597
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Your Model 10-6 .38 Military & Police Heavy Barrel was manufactured in 1966 or 1967. Serial range for those years was C810533 to C999999so 1967 seems likely.
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Old December 3, 2010, 07:12 PM   #2598
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Exclamation papacarn

(a) 38 special CTG
(b) 6" blued
(c) square, walnut
(d) 6 shot
(e) fixed sights front, adj rear
(f) 5K23xxx (butt)
(g) 76758 (frame)
Would like to know manufacture date, and estimated worth. Was in estate.

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Old December 4, 2010, 03:40 PM   #2599
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I have just purchased I believe a pre war military and police revolver and would appreciate a manufactured date if someone could help.
(A) 38 special ctg
(B) 5" barrel
(C) sqaure butt
(E) fixed sights
(F) 447180 (butt and cylinder)

Thanks for the help.
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Old December 4, 2010, 08:46 PM   #2600
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Requests:

34-1, Serial # M1810xx

29-2, Serial # N3153xx
two 29-3s
(6") Serial # AVB29xx
(8 3/8") Serial # AUL05xx

Thanks much in advance.
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