Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers - Page 119

Robinett_11B · February 18, 2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radagast

Robinett_11B:
Your Model 66 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1975.

Thanks, Radagast!

Radagast · February 18, 2011, 10:29 PM

blackholegun:
Apart from the scratches around the trigger guard I would rate it excellent, so the value to a collector is probably a little less than the $650 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave for an excellent condition gun and a little higher than the $435 given for very good condition.

Members Saxon Pig & Peter M Eick should be able to give you a better idea as they collect the old N frames. Or you could ask at the S&W collectors forum,
www.smith-wessonforum.com

rromeo · February 19, 2011, 09:11 AM

a) .38
b) 4''
c) grips shape (round or square)
d) 6
e) fixed
f) c8060xxx
g) 10-5

Animal Mother · February 19, 2011, 05:11 PM

Hey guys, I picked up a nice Model 17-3 today, I'd love to know when it was born:

a) .22 LR
b) 6"
c) square
d) 6 shot
e) adjustable
f) K9384XX
g) 17-3

Thanks!

CajunBass · February 19, 2011, 08:09 PM

Smith & Wesson 357 (No model number). Large frame, 5" barrel, target sights, Magna stocks, blue/gold box. S/N S-122xxx.

jmachek · February 19, 2011, 08:24 PM

a) .32 long
b) 4 1/4"
c) round
d) 6
e) fixed
f) 145554 (same on butt and cylinder)
g) what' a crane? Only other markings I can find are patent numbers on top of barrel.
Black hard plastic like grips.

Trying to I'd for my father in law.

Radagast · February 19, 2011, 10:31 PM

jmachek:
The Crane (Colt terminology) or Yoke (S&W terminology) is the arm that carries the cylinder and allows it to swing out from the frame. This gun predates model numbers, which were introduced in 1957.
Your FILs gun is a .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 5th Change manufactured between 1910 & 1917. Serial range for those years was 102501 to 263000.

This model predates heat treatment of cylinders which began in 1920, so stick to standard velocity lead loads, don't try any hot handloads. Any factory ammo should be safe to shoot.
It also predates the positive internal hammer block safety introduced in 1944. If dropped it could fire. I recommend that the chamber under the hammer be left empty.

Value is not high as there were over half a million hand ejectors made and the round is considered obsolete as a self defence load. In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $315 in very good condition.

Radagast · February 19, 2011, 10:36 PM

CajunBass:
You have a 5 screw Pre-Model 27 .357 Magnum manufactured in 1954 or 1955. Serial range for those years was S1030000 to S139999. In 2006 the SCSW gave a value for ANIB of $1200, I would expect the value to be higher now as the high price of Registered Magnums should be dragging their later brethren up in value.

Radagast · February 19, 2011, 10:38 PM

Animal Mother:
Your Model 17-3 K22 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1969.

Radagast · February 19, 2011, 10:39 PM

rromeo:
Your Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel was manufactured in the period 1963 to 1965, serial range for those years was C622700 to C810532 so 1965 seems likely.

CajunBass · February 20, 2011, 04:58 AM

Thank you Radagast. I know I appreciate all the work you do answering questions. It is truly appreciated.

handle02 · February 20, 2011, 08:37 AM

a.) 357 mag b.) 4 " barrel c.) square grip d.)6 shot e.) adj. sights f.)AJD3875 g.) model 66-2 Thanks in advance!

Radagast · February 20, 2011, 10:05 AM

handle02:
Your Model 66-2 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1985.

DrakeGmbH · February 20, 2011, 01:36 PM

I brought home another Smith recently. Can you pin down the manufacture date?

Model 29-2, 6.5", N439395. Thanks in advance!

rromeo · February 20, 2011, 07:59 PM

Thank you Radagast.

birdog009 · February 21, 2011, 05:54 PM

A) 38
B) 4"
C) square K frame
D) 6 shot
E) ramped front/ adj rear
F) K 1195XX
I know this is a K-38 combat master piece pre model 15 and made sometime prior to 1959. Looking for exact year of manufacture.

Thanks

Radagast · February 21, 2011, 08:20 PM

birddog009:
1951. Serial range for that year was K104048to K136690.

Radagast · February 21, 2011, 08:22 PM

DrakeGmbH:
The N4xxxxx serial range was used for N frames manufactured in 1977 & 1978.

DrakeGmbH · February 21, 2011, 11:29 PM

Thanks Radagast!

Here are some photos of the gun in question. I just need to find a proper length bore mop to go in the case. It was missing when I bought the gun and the one I picked up from a local shop is a bit short for the cutout.

Radagast · February 22, 2011, 05:31 AM

DrakeGmbH:
As always your photography is excellent and the firearm is too.Thanks for sharing.

pabner · February 24, 2011, 04:28 PM

a) S&W .32 Long
b) 2" (1-7/8)
c) Square
d) 6
e) Fixed
f) H1120XX
g) 31-1

Radagast · February 24, 2011, 10:48 PM

pabner:
Your Model 31-1 .32 Regulation Police dates to the period 1975-1980. Serial range for those years was H10001 to H139900. The -1 refers to the gun being built on the small J frame, early guns were built on the smaller I frame. Aftermarket J frame square butt grips will fit.

Deus Machina · February 25, 2011, 04:45 AM

a) .357 magnum
b) 4"
c) square butt
d) 6-shot
e) adjustable rear, front with red insert
f) ACH011x
g) 596, no dash

Radagast · February 25, 2011, 06:01 AM

Deus Machina:
Your Model 586 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1983.

There is a recall on all 586 and 586-1 revolvers, with some ammunition the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing and stop the cylinder from rotating.

Under the recall S&W will install a new firing pin and firing pin bushing to prevent this happening. They will also stamp M for modified beside the model number under the cylinder yoke.
If you want to have your gun modified S&W will pay shipping both ways, call them to arrange a shipping label.

Deus Machina · February 25, 2011, 07:31 AM

It's good to have a date at least.

How does the recall affect collector's value?

February 18, 2011, 10:29 PM	#2952
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	blackholegun: Apart from the scratches around the trigger guard I would rate it excellent, so the value to a collector is probably a little less than the $650 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave for an excellent condition gun and a little higher than the $435 given for very good condition. Members Saxon Pig & Peter M Eick should be able to give you a better idea as they collect the old N frames. Or you could ask at the S&W collectors forum, www.smith-wessonforum.com __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 19, 2011, 05:11 PM	#2954
Animal Mother Member Join Date: August 15, 2007 Location: Southeast Posts: 569	Hey guys, I picked up a nice Model 17-3 today, I'd love to know when it was born: a) .22 LR b) 6" c) square d) 6 shot e) adjustable f) K9384XX g) 17-3 Thanks! __________________ "How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Former Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)

February 19, 2011, 08:09 PM	#2955
CajunBass Member Join Date: June 2, 2005 Location: Chancellorsville, Virginia Posts: 4,481	Smith & Wesson 357 (No model number). Large frame, 5" barrel, target sights, Magna stocks, blue/gold box. S/N S-122xxx. __________________ For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

February 19, 2011, 08:24 PM	#2956
jmachek Member Join Date: February 19, 2011 Posts: 1	a) .32 long b) 4 1/4" c) round d) 6 e) fixed f) 145554 (same on butt and cylinder) g) what' a crane? Only other markings I can find are patent numbers on top of barrel. Black hard plastic like grips. Trying to I'd for my father in law. Last edited by jmachek; February 19, 2011 at 08:33 PM. Reason: TypoS

February 19, 2011, 10:31 PM	#2957
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	jmachek: The Crane (Colt terminology) or Yoke (S&W terminology) is the arm that carries the cylinder and allows it to swing out from the frame. This gun predates model numbers, which were introduced in 1957. Your FILs gun is a .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 5th Change manufactured between 1910 & 1917. Serial range for those years was 102501 to 263000. This model predates heat treatment of cylinders which began in 1920, so stick to standard velocity lead loads, don't try any hot handloads. Any factory ammo should be safe to shoot. It also predates the positive internal hammer block safety introduced in 1944. If dropped it could fire. I recommend that the chamber under the hammer be left empty. Value is not high as there were over half a million hand ejectors made and the round is considered obsolete as a self defence load. In 2006 the Standard Catalog of S&W gave a value of $315 in very good condition. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 19, 2011, 09:11 AM	#2953
rromeo Member Join Date: March 17, 2010 Location: Radford, VA USA Posts: 258	a) .38 b) 4'' c) grips shape (round or square) d) 6 e) fixed f) c8060xxx g) 10-5

February 19, 2011, 10:36 PM	#2958
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	CajunBass: You have a 5 screw Pre-Model 27 .357 Magnum manufactured in 1954 or 1955. Serial range for those years was S1030000 to S139999. In 2006 the SCSW gave a value for ANIB of $1200, I would expect the value to be higher now as the high price of Registered Magnums should be dragging their later brethren up in value. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 19, 2011, 10:38 PM	#2959
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	Animal Mother: Your Model 17-3 K22 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1969. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 19, 2011, 10:39 PM	#2960
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	rromeo: Your Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel was manufactured in the period 1963 to 1965, serial range for those years was C622700 to C810532 so 1965 seems likely. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 20, 2011, 04:58 AM	#2961
CajunBass Member Join Date: June 2, 2005 Location: Chancellorsville, Virginia Posts: 4,481	Thank you Radagast. I know I appreciate all the work you do answering questions. It is truly appreciated. __________________ For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

February 20, 2011, 08:37 AM	#2962
handle02 Member Join Date: June 7, 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 85	a.) 357 mag b.) 4 " barrel c.) square grip d.)6 shot e.) adj. sights f.)AJD3875 g.) model 66-2 Thanks in advance!

February 20, 2011, 10:05 AM	#2963
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	handle02: Your Model 66-2 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1985. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 20, 2011, 01:36 PM	#2964
DrakeGmbH Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Posts: 58	I brought home another Smith recently. Can you pin down the manufacture date? Model 29-2, 6.5", N439395. Thanks in advance!

February 20, 2011, 07:59 PM	#2965
rromeo Member Join Date: March 17, 2010 Location: Radford, VA USA Posts: 258	Thank you Radagast.

February 21, 2011, 05:54 PM	#2966
birdog009 Member Join Date: January 3, 2010 Posts: 3	Smith and wesson K38 combat masterpiece date of manufacture A) 38 B) 4" C) square K frame D) 6 shot E) ramped front/ adj rear F) K 1195XX I know this is a K-38 combat master piece pre model 15 and made sometime prior to 1959. Looking for exact year of manufacture. Thanks

February 21, 2011, 08:20 PM	#2967
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	birddog009: 1951. Serial range for that year was K104048to K136690. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 21, 2011, 08:22 PM	#2968
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	DrakeGmbH: The N4xxxxx serial range was used for N frames manufactured in 1977 & 1978. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 22, 2011, 05:31 AM	#2970
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	DrakeGmbH: As always your photography is excellent and the firearm is too.Thanks for sharing. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 24, 2011, 04:28 PM	#2971
pabner Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Posts: 24	DOB Request a) S&W .32 Long b) 2" (1-7/8) c) Square d) 6 e) Fixed f) H1120XX g) 31-1

February 24, 2011, 10:48 PM	#2972
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	pabner: Your Model 31-1 .32 Regulation Police dates to the period 1975-1980. Serial range for those years was H10001 to H139900. The -1 refers to the gun being built on the small J frame, early guns were built on the smaller I frame. Aftermarket J frame square butt grips will fit. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 25, 2011, 04:45 AM	#2973
Deus Machina Member Join Date: May 24, 2007 Location: Brandon, Florida Posts: 1,783	a) .357 magnum b) 4" c) square butt d) 6-shot e) adjustable rear, front with red insert f) ACH011x g) 596, no dash __________________ When you get angry enough, grab your rifle and run outside. If you're the only one there, it's not time yet. Last edited by Deus Machina; February 25, 2011 at 05:08 AM.

February 25, 2011, 06:01 AM	#2974
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,369	Deus Machina: Your Model 586 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1983. There is a recall on all 586 and 586-1 revolvers, with some ammunition the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing and stop the cylinder from rotating. Under the recall S&W will install a new firing pin and firing pin bushing to prevent this happening. They will also stamp M for modified beside the model number under the cylinder yoke. If you want to have your gun modified S&W will pay shipping both ways, call them to arrange a shipping label. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

February 25, 2011, 07:31 AM	#2975
Deus Machina Member Join Date: May 24, 2007 Location: Brandon, Florida Posts: 1,783	It's good to have a date at least. How does the recall affect collector's value? __________________ When you get angry enough, grab your rifle and run outside. If you're the only one there, it's not time yet.