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Old May 6, 2011, 01:59 PM   #3151
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Radagast, sorry that was my fault for not researching the topic better. The S/N on the 19-4 stamped on the bottom of the frame grip is 95K64XX.

Regarding the 586 there is "M" stamped above the S/N so I believe the modification was done.

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Old May 6, 2011, 03:33 PM   #3152
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a) caliber - 38 Special
b) bbl length - 4"
c) grips shape (round or square) - Not sure on this one, grips seem "standard" - smooth curves at the front and back, but flat on the sides. Not sure if this is helpful, but the right side has a "normal" arch to the grip, and the left side has a "U" shaped cut out. Also, there is a screw on the frame that is below the center of the cylindar.
d) number of shots/cylinder bores - 6 shot
e) type of sights. - fixed front sight, with a "groove" along the top, that goes the length of the cylinder.
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip - no serial number on bottom of grip, number 225XX on "swing arm" of the cylinder, and then the same 225XX on the frame where the cylinder attaches, but there is an offset "7" above, to the left.
g) Model number if it is under the crane. "CTG" is on the barrel. Wait, now I've found it: C3079XX
That number, if it is the s/n, should come from the butt of the grip (or under the barrel or face of the cylinder).

This is a great topic, and I really appreciate any help you can give me. As you can see from my description, I'm far from an expert. Thanks, -Hawkfan

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Old May 6, 2011, 08:22 PM   #3153
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Got another one today

a) 357 mag
b) 4"
c) square
d) 6 shot
e) fixed sights
f) AEA69XX
g) Mod 581

Are these stocks original?? They have the S&W logo in them.




Thanks

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Old May 7, 2011, 06:15 AM   #3154
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squareles67:
Your Model 581 Distinguished Service Magnum was manufactured in 1984.
The grips appear to be a special order item from S&W.

There is a recall on this particular model, with some magnum ammo the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing, locking upthe gun. Under the recall S&W will pay shippng both ways and install a new firing pin & bushing.

If your gun has been modified under the recall there should be an M stamped after the model number under the cylinder yoke. If you wish to have your gun modified give S&W a call and they will send you a shipping label.
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Old May 7, 2011, 06:26 AM   #3155
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Your .38 Miltary & Police was manufactured in the period 1954 to 1956. Serial range for those years was C277555 to C402923. This model is also known asthe Pre-Model 10, as model numbers were itroduced in 1957 and the .38 Military & Police was designated the Model 10.

Squareles67's pic above shows a square butt gun, a round butt would have a slight curve towards the front at the rear of the grip.
It sounds like you have target grips from a later model on your gun, the cut out on the right side is to allow the use of a speedloader.
The additional screw in the frame was used until 1962. If there is a screw in the side plate just in front of the hammer then you have a '5 screw' gun (four in the side plate, one in the front of the frame), if there is no screw then it is a '4 screw' gun. The fifth screw was deleted in 1955.

225xx & 7 are assembly numbers used to track parts in the factory, these have no meaning after the gun is assembled.
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Old May 7, 2011, 06:27 AM   #3156
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LawAbider:
Your Model 19-4 was manufactured in 1981. The M stamping on the 586 means it has been modified.
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Old May 7, 2011, 07:52 AM   #3157
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a) .357 magnum
b) 6"
c) Square
d) Adjustable rear, Red Ramp front
e) BBE31XX
f) Model 586-3
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Old May 7, 2011, 08:48 PM   #3158
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Kajan:
Your Model 586-3 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1988. Guns in the BBFxxxx serial range shipped in July of that year.
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Old May 8, 2011, 11:22 PM   #3159
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I have a S&W top break 32 short revolver sn 67xxx is this a 3rd model? Thank you
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Old May 10, 2011, 12:41 AM   #3160
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If it is hammerless then it is a .32 Safety Hammerless 1st Model manufactured between 1894 & 1902 in the serial range 53252 to 91417.

If it is double action with an exposed hammer then it is a .32 Double Action 4th Model manufactured between 1883 & 1996 in the serial range 1 to 209301. This would be considered an antique by BATF.

If it is a single action with an exposed hammer and spur trigger then it is a .32 Single Action (Model One & a Half) manufactured between 1878 & 1892 in the serial range 1 to 97574.
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Old May 10, 2011, 07:41 AM   #3161
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a) .44 russian
b) 6"
c) square
d) 6
e) fixed blade front fixed notch rear
f) 10xxx
g) ?

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Old May 10, 2011, 09:05 AM   #3162
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DoB for my 625?

Photos are in this thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=590304

The numbers marked in the frame inside the crane are "BPL4193" Model 625-3, on the inside of the crane, it is marked "048"

I really like this gun and I'm curious when it was made.

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Old May 10, 2011, 09:54 AM   #3163
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The 625-3 was produced between 1990 & 1993. The Standard Catalog of S&W notes that serial numbers in the BPK range shipped in December of that year, so late 1993 production with shipping in early 1994 seems likely.
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Old May 10, 2011, 09:59 AM   #3164
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Thanks a ton, Radagast!
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Old May 10, 2011, 10:05 AM   #3165
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Loki 81:
The New Model Navy was a Remington percussion revolver in .36 caliber. Could you post a pic of your gun? I will try to identify it. If it is a S&W product it could be a First Model Russian, New Model Number Three, a .44 Double Action or a .44 Double Action Wesson Favourite.
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Old May 11, 2011, 04:04 AM   #3166
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You bet Radagast.



Trying to figure out if it's birthdate is pre 1898.

Thanks for the help.
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Old May 11, 2011, 07:21 AM   #3167
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Loki_81:
Ok, you are looking at a .44 Double Action First Model, also known as the New Model Navy No.3 Revolver (Mea Culpa, I wasn't aware of the navy designation).

The .44 Double Action was manufactured between 1881 & 1913, with all frames completed prior to 1899, so the entire production run and its variants are classified as antiques by the ATF.
Serial numbers in the range 8900 to 10600 were manufactured in 1882 & 1883, so its a fairly safe bet the gun you are looking at dates to 1883/84.

There was also a .44-40 chambered version manufactured between 1886 & 1913 in a seperate serial range as the .44 Double Action Frontier. Again all frames were manufactured bwefore 1899.
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Old May 14, 2011, 02:52 PM   #3168
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a) .45 Colt
b) 6.5" barrel, blue finish
c) square butt, diamond grip
d) 6 shot
e) adjustable rear, black patridge front
f) mx25XX
g) Model 25 SKU 150256

Second Revolver:
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Old May 14, 2011, 11:16 PM   #3169
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Kajan:
Your Model 57 .41 Magnum Target was manufactured in 1980.

Your Model 25 Classic was manufactured Between 2008 & now, it is a currently cataloged model.
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Old May 15, 2011, 10:30 AM   #3170
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a) .38 special Revolver
b) 3''
c) round
d) 5
e) iron
f) 531XXX
g) Model 7
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Old May 15, 2011, 12:06 PM   #3171
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DOB

Thank you in advance for any help on the approximate date of birth for my new purchase of an excellent piece of stainless steel art. Boxed, two sets of grips (stock and banana), papered (no bill of sale, but several pages taken from THE SHOTGUN NEWS with gun prices for many different manufacturers of 1982). Listed was, "Our Buy Price," and "Your Cash Price," and a column of prices for credit card buyers. The price listed for my Model 60 (no dash) was $385.00.

Can you say Time Machine.

Cal-38 Special
Barrel-2 Inch
Grip-Round
Cylinder-5
Fixed sights
Serial# R258 07
Model-60 no dash

Have a good day,

jc

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Old May 15, 2011, 09:16 PM   #3172
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  • 38 Special
  • 4"
  • square
  • 6-shot
  • fixed sights
  • AHS19XX
  • Mod 10-7
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Old May 15, 2011, 10:11 PM   #3173
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I have just had passed down to me

. 38 special
. 1 7/8" barrel
. square grip
. 5-shot.
. fixed sight
. sn# 7J9143


. 22 long rifle ctg
. 4" barrel
. round butt
. 6 shot
. adjustable sight
. sn# 29642
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Old May 16, 2011, 01:01 AM   #3174
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1) 357
2) 6"
3) square
4) 6 shooter
5) adjustable rear, red ramp front
6) sn#ACH27**
7) M586 no dash and no M stamp

Thank you in advance, what a great thread!
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Old May 16, 2011, 12:08 PM   #3175
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I have a S&W , 36 sp six shot , K frame?, square butt, v notch, blade front, 4".
a) .38 special
b) 4"
c) square
d) 6
e) V notch, blade front
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip, C 116320, also under the barrel.
g) Numbers on the crane, has "7", and "V", and 18992, and 11616 on the back strapC


Appreciate any information I could get on it.

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