Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers - Page 132

txgunsuscg · July 3, 2011, 08:34 PM

a) .38 Special
b) 4"
c) square
d) 6
e) fixed rear, half moon front
f) V459XXX
g) Victory

Thanks!

Radagast · July 4, 2011, 09:49 AM

txgunsuscg:
Unfortunately I can't give you an exact year. 1942 to 1944 is the time period you are looking at.
IIRC Old Fuff has stated that the US govt took over production at S&W one week after Pearl Harbour in December 1941 and per the Standard Catalog of S&W govt inspection stamps started around V85000, so I would guess its safe to say that V85000 = December 1941. By September 1944 S&W had reached V769000. So somewhere between 1942 & 1944.

txgunsuscg · July 4, 2011, 11:00 AM

Rad, thanks a lot. I went ahead and sent off to S&W for one of their letters, just for the collector's side of it. I'm thinking of restoring it to wartime specs.

bergmen · July 4, 2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radagast

bergmen:
that serial number is from 1980. As the adjustable sight K frame serial range for 1980 cuts off at 91K6800 I'd guess November/December of that year.

Thank you sir, very much appreciate it.

Dan

jacUSMC · July 4, 2011, 01:14 PM

1. 38 special
2. 4"
3. square
4. 6 shot
5. half moon blade
6. C112xxx
7. M&P(model 10)
nickel plated, tapered barrel, I think it is called a 4 screw(has 3 on the side and one in the trigger guard)

Radagast · July 5, 2011, 06:10 AM

jacUSMC:
Your gun falls into the period 1948 to 1949. Serial range for those years was C1 to C223998. Your gun is a Pre-Model 10/ .38 Military & Police Postwar. Your gun is actually a five screw, there will be four in the side plate and one in the frame in front of the trigger guard. The upper side plate screw was deleted in 1955.

jacUSMC · July 5, 2011, 07:05 PM

thanks for the info, other than minor cosmetic blemishes it still shoots great, excellent mechanical function. here's photo.

Almond27 · July 5, 2011, 07:42 PM

Back again with a new Smith. My newest toy is a pre stamped mountain gun(I hope)?

a)44 magnum
b)4 inch barrel
c)Round butt(I do believe)
d)6 shot
e)adjustable sights solid black, no white outline on rear, no red insert on front sight ramp.
f)BVD98xx
g)629-2

Hope this is a mountain gun, it only says Smith and Wesson on one side of the barrel and 44 magnum on the other side. Came with big Pachmeyers on it does anyone know what grips it would have shipped with originally? It's in VG condition id say one quick wipe off the satin finish and it would look very close to new. I'd say it only has a box of shells through it.

Radagast · July 6, 2011, 06:48 AM

Almond27:
BVDxxx should place your gun between August 1994 (BRFxxxx) & January 1996 (CAMxxxx). But, the 629-2 was only produced in 1988/89.
The Mountain Revolver, Model 629-2, 4 inch barrel, fluted cylinder, round butt, smooth trigger, semi target hammer, pinned black front sight, black rear sight, and Pachmayr SKGR grip, product code 103652 was produced in 1989. Production run of 5000 with a MRSP of $509.50.
It sounds like you have one of these. Nice score. I'm going to guess that the BVD serial range was reserved for the Mountain Revolver and was made out of the normal sequence. As evidence of this, Model 329s shipped with BVAxxxx serial numbers in 2003, some 10 years after that serial range should have been used in the normal sequential numbering of guns.

Almond27 · July 6, 2011, 09:15 AM

Radagast, the pachmeyer grip on it has a slot in the bottom of the grip so you can read the serial number. Only 5000 were run like this? Any reason S&W would only make 5000? Do you think it was produced in 1988 or 1989 or the mid 90s like you metioned? Is one more desired by collecters? Thanks for all the information. I've always posted when I get a new toy and the great info always makes me feel good about my purchase.

Radagast · July 6, 2011, 10:13 AM

Definitely 1989, as a) that is the year that spec was produced and b) the 629-2 was only made in 88/89. S&W seems to like runs of 5000 as special order/specification guns, although they have run as few as 50 629s in a special configuration.
The Next run of Mountain Guns was in 1993 and again in 1994, both with Hogue grips. There was another run of 50 in 1998 with a square butt, again in 1999 with Mountain Gun laser etched on the right side and again in 2002 & 2005.

Anyway, congratulations on your new toy, I hope you have fun shooting it.

kemper · July 6, 2011, 07:05 PM

a) .357
b) 4"
c) Square
d) six shot
e) RR-WO with target trigger and hammer
d) K

Pistol is a nickel plated S&W Model 19-5. Serial # 167K62x.

Anyone information as to the age of this fine looking pistol would be much appreciated.

Almond27 · July 6, 2011, 07:43 PM

Radagast, thanks for all the help. It was made the same year I was born a keeper for sure.

Ric · July 6, 2011, 10:05 PM

I got one for you.
My Son in Law picked up a pinned and recessed 357 model 19, square butt.
7K23346
The 7 is not lined up well with the rest of the sn. Does that mean anything?
thanks

GraveMAL · July 7, 2011, 12:51 AM

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breezeyguy · July 7, 2011, 02:03 AM

total newbie here:

Marked S&W
38 S&W special ctg. on barrel
4"
6-shot
fixed sights
D935443 on frame
L 25887 on cylinder hinge

Is this gun capable of shooting +P ammoo safely

Thanks

Radagast · July 7, 2011, 08:46 AM

breezeyguy:
A six shot .38 Special revolver with a D prefix to the serial number probably your gun a Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel or a 10-6 .38 Military & Police Heavy Barrel. Potentially it could be a 10-7 or 10-8, the respective 1977 updates to the two variants. It was manufactured in 1976 to 1977, serial range for those years was D870001 to D999999. It should be fine with any PlusP ammunition.
L25887 is an assembly number, used to track aprts in the factory. It has no meaning after the gun is assembled.

GraveMAL:
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Ric:
Your Son-in-law's Model 19-3 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1974.
the offset 7 is just a poor stamping, it is part of the serial number.

kemper:
Your Model 19-5 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1982.

pittspilot · July 7, 2011, 10:08 PM

Howdy,

Possible purchase

Model 58, glued.

Pinned and recessed.

N234776 on the butt, A953144 on the crane.

Thanks,

kemper · July 7, 2011, 10:36 PM

Info much appreciated. 1982 was year I graduated from high school.

breezeyguy · July 8, 2011, 02:44 AM

Thanks Radagast. I really appreciate the info and your response. It's nice to know about the gun and that I can shoot the +P. You're awesome!!

Radagast · July 8, 2011, 07:59 AM

pittspilot:
Your Model 58 .41 Magnum Military & Police was manufactured in the period 1974 to 1977. The last half of the N2xxxxx range was used for the Model 28 & Model 58, so its hard to guesstmate a year based on the serial number.
There were only 20,287 Model 58s manufactured between 1964 & 1977 when production was discontinued, so they are not particularly common.

DeepSouth · July 8, 2011, 07:17 PM

Got me my first Smith, I think I'm in love.

caliber.... 45acp

bbl length.... 5.5 (I think)

grips shape.... Target grips

number of shots.... 6 shot

type of sights.... Adjustable rear sight

serial number.... N712508

Model number.... 25-2

Quoheleth · July 8, 2011, 09:31 PM

Radagast,

I have a Smith 10-10, 6-shot, .38 Special, square butt, 4" heavy barrel, fixed rear sight and ramp front sight, SN BDFXXXX.

Can you give me a DOB?

These Smith revolvers are addictive. Is there a cure?

Thanks,
Q

Radagast · July 9, 2011, 03:43 AM

DeepSouth:
Your Model 25-2 / Model of 1955 .45 Target Heavy Barrel was manufactured in 1980. In 1979 the 6 inch barrel was introduced, repalcing the 6.5 inch barrel. I would guess that is what you have. Measuring the barrel from the forcing cone to the muzzle is the standard method.

Quoheleth:
The Model 10-10 was introduced in 1988 and continued in production until 1997. Your gun should date to 1997, as serial numbers in the BDCxxxx range shipped in Febuary and by April they were already in the BDYxxxx range.
Some doctors recommend addicts try Rugers, as they are analogous to methadone, giving you the revolver without the buzz.

ArizonaBorn63 · July 9, 2011, 03:12 PM

Thank you for your help with all these requests..

My dad gave me a SW .38 Special with original box, which was purchased by his dad. Model on box is 10-8, finish is blue, 4" barrel, and stock "S".
Beside box labeld "Special Feature" is hand written "HB" in red ink.

Serial on bottom of squared butt is 8D02XXX

Do you have any manufacture date or information on this, and maybe what the "HB" stands for. I have the box, receipt (purchased in 3/81 for $248), and owners manual.

I appreciate the help because of the family connection to this gun.

July 4, 2011, 09:49 AM	#3277
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	txgunsuscg: Unfortunately I can't give you an exact year. 1942 to 1944 is the time period you are looking at. IIRC Old Fuff has stated that the US govt took over production at S&W one week after Pearl Harbour in December 1941 and per the Standard Catalog of S&W govt inspection stamps started around V85000, so I would guess its safe to say that V85000 = December 1941. By September 1944 S&W had reached V769000. So somewhere between 1942 & 1944. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 4, 2011, 11:00 AM	#3278
txgunsuscg Member Join Date: January 1, 2011 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 447	Rad, thanks a lot. I went ahead and sent off to S&W for one of their letters, just for the collector's side of it. I'm thinking of restoring it to wartime specs. __________________ Either with your shield or on it. 1911 armorer, Glock Armorer, NRA Life Member, NRA Pistol Instructor.

July 4, 2011, 01:14 PM	#3280
jacUSMC Member Join Date: September 26, 2010 Location: east TN Posts: 10	1. 38 special 2. 4" 3. square 4. 6 shot 5. half moon blade 6. C112xxx 7. M&P(model 10) nickel plated, tapered barrel, I think it is called a 4 screw(has 3 on the side and one in the trigger guard) __________________ hope for the best, prepare for the worst, adapt and overcome, oohrah!

July 5, 2011, 06:10 AM	#3281
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	jacUSMC: Your gun falls into the period 1948 to 1949. Serial range for those years was C1 to C223998. Your gun is a Pre-Model 10/ .38 Military & Police Postwar. Your gun is actually a five screw, there will be four in the side plate and one in the frame in front of the trigger guard. The upper side plate screw was deleted in 1955. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 6, 2011, 06:48 AM	#3284
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Almond27: BVDxxx should place your gun between August 1994 (BRFxxxx) & January 1996 (CAMxxxx). But, the 629-2 was only produced in 1988/89. The Mountain Revolver, Model 629-2, 4 inch barrel, fluted cylinder, round butt, smooth trigger, semi target hammer, pinned black front sight, black rear sight, and Pachmayr SKGR grip, product code 103652 was produced in 1989. Production run of 5000 with a MRSP of $509.50. It sounds like you have one of these. Nice score. I'm going to guess that the BVD serial range was reserved for the Mountain Revolver and was made out of the normal sequence. As evidence of this, Model 329s shipped with BVAxxxx serial numbers in 2003, some 10 years after that serial range should have been used in the normal sequential numbering of guns. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 5, 2011, 07:42 PM	#3283
Almond27 Member Join Date: September 4, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 418	Back again with a new Smith. My newest toy is a pre stamped mountain gun(I hope)? a)44 magnum b)4 inch barrel c)Round butt(I do believe) d)6 shot e)adjustable sights solid black, no white outline on rear, no red insert on front sight ramp. f)BVD98xx g)629-2 Hope this is a mountain gun, it only says Smith and Wesson on one side of the barrel and 44 magnum on the other side. Came with big Pachmeyers on it does anyone know what grips it would have shipped with originally? It's in VG condition id say one quick wipe off the satin finish and it would look very close to new. I'd say it only has a box of shells through it.

July 6, 2011, 09:15 AM	#3285
Almond27 Member Join Date: September 4, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 418	Radagast, the pachmeyer grip on it has a slot in the bottom of the grip so you can read the serial number. Only 5000 were run like this? Any reason S&W would only make 5000? Do you think it was produced in 1988 or 1989 or the mid 90s like you metioned? Is one more desired by collecters? Thanks for all the information. I've always posted when I get a new toy and the great info always makes me feel good about my purchase.

July 6, 2011, 10:13 AM	#3286
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Definitely 1989, as a) that is the year that spec was produced and b) the 629-2 was only made in 88/89. S&W seems to like runs of 5000 as special order/specification guns, although they have run as few as 50 629s in a special configuration. The Next run of Mountain Guns was in 1993 and again in 1994, both with Hogue grips. There was another run of 50 in 1998 with a square butt, again in 1999 with Mountain Gun laser etched on the right side and again in 2002 & 2005. Anyway, congratulations on your new toy, I hope you have fun shooting it. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 6, 2011, 07:05 PM	#3287
kemper Member Join Date: July 5, 2011 Posts: 62	Just bought this S&W Model 19-5. Birthdate ? a) .357 b) 4" c) Square d) six shot e) RR-WO with target trigger and hammer d) K Pistol is a nickel plated S&W Model 19-5. Serial # 167K62x. Anyone information as to the age of this fine looking pistol would be much appreciated.

July 6, 2011, 07:43 PM	#3288
Almond27 Member Join Date: September 4, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 418	Radagast, thanks for all the help. It was made the same year I was born a keeper for sure.

July 6, 2011, 10:05 PM	#3289
Ric Member Join Date: March 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 691	I got one for you. My Son in Law picked up a pinned and recessed 357 model 19, square butt. 7K23346 The 7 is not lined up well with the rest of the sn. Does that mean anything? thanks __________________ *The time is coming when those who kill you will think they are offering service to God* Jesus - (John 16.2) Allah Akbar Suicide bombers, terrorists and 911 hijackers The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of (political) party are sufficient to make it in the interest and the duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it. - G. Washington You cannot lead in moderation

July 7, 2011, 12:51 AM	#3290
GraveMAL Member Join Date: July 6, 2011 Posts: 9	... Last edited by GraveMAL; July 7, 2011 at 01:52 AM.

July 7, 2011, 02:03 AM	#3291
breezeyguy Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Posts: 2	need help trying to id S&W total newbie here: Marked S&W 38 S&W special ctg. on barrel 4" 6-shot fixed sights D935443 on frame L 25887 on cylinder hinge Is this gun capable of shooting +P ammoo safely Thanks

July 7, 2011, 08:46 AM	#3292
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	breezeyguy: A six shot .38 Special revolver with a D prefix to the serial number probably your gun a Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel or a 10-6 .38 Military & Police Heavy Barrel. Potentially it could be a 10-7 or 10-8, the respective 1977 updates to the two variants. It was manufactured in 1976 to 1977, serial range for those years was D870001 to D999999. It should be fine with any PlusP ammunition. L25887 is an assembly number, used to track aprts in the factory. It has no meaning after the gun is assembled. GraveMAL: ? Ric: Your Son-in-law's Model 19-3 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1974. the offset 7 is just a poor stamping, it is part of the serial number. kemper: Your Model 19-5 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1982. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 7, 2011, 10:08 PM	#3293
pittspilot Member Join Date: January 3, 2003 Location: AZ, Free at last! Posts: 760	Howdy, Possible purchase Model 58, glued. Pinned and recessed. N234776 on the butt, A953144 on the crane. Thanks, __________________ How is that Democrat/Libertarian vote working out for you? Lov'in Arizona. Thanks all for your help. Airplane Pictures

July 7, 2011, 10:36 PM	#3294
kemper Member Join Date: July 5, 2011 Posts: 62	Thanks Radagast Info much appreciated. 1982 was year I graduated from high school.

July 8, 2011, 02:44 AM	#3295
breezeyguy Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Posts: 2	Thanks Radagast!! Thanks Radagast. I really appreciate the info and your response. It's nice to know about the gun and that I can shoot the +P. You're awesome!!

July 8, 2011, 07:59 AM	#3296
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	pittspilot: Your Model 58 .41 Magnum Military & Police was manufactured in the period 1974 to 1977. The last half of the N2xxxxx range was used for the Model 28 & Model 58, so its hard to guesstmate a year based on the serial number. There were only 20,287 Model 58s manufactured between 1964 & 1977 when production was discontinued, so they are not particularly common. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 8, 2011, 07:17 PM	#3297
DeepSouth Member Join Date: January 14, 2009 Location: Heart of Dixie Posts: 1,773	Can I be next Got me my first Smith, I think I'm in love. caliber.... 45acp bbl length.... 5.5 (I think) grips shape.... Target grips number of shots.... 6 shot type of sights.... Adjustable rear sight serial number.... N712508 Model number.... 25-2 __________________ Don't be afraid of the enemy! Remember the Lord, who is great and glorious, and fight for your friends, your families, and your homes! Nehemiah 4:14 The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, it is that they know so much that isn't so

July 8, 2011, 09:31 PM	#3298
Quoheleth Member Join Date: March 7, 2007 Location: The Land of Bowie, Crockett, Travis & Houston Posts: 3,136	Radagast, I have a Smith 10-10, 6-shot, .38 Special, square butt, 4" heavy barrel, fixed rear sight and ramp front sight, SN BDFXXXX. Can you give me a DOB? These Smith revolvers are addictive. Is there a cure? Thanks, Q Last edited by Quoheleth; July 9, 2011 at 06:57 AM.

July 9, 2011, 03:43 AM	#3299
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	DeepSouth: Your Model 25-2 / Model of 1955 .45 Target Heavy Barrel was manufactured in 1980. In 1979 the 6 inch barrel was introduced, repalcing the 6.5 inch barrel. I would guess that is what you have. Measuring the barrel from the forcing cone to the muzzle is the standard method. Quoheleth: The Model 10-10 was introduced in 1988 and continued in production until 1997. Your gun should date to 1997, as serial numbers in the BDCxxxx range shipped in Febuary and by April they were already in the BDYxxxx range. Some doctors recommend addicts try Rugers, as they are analogous to methadone, giving you the revolver without the buzz. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 9, 2011, 03:12 PM	#3300
ArizonaBorn63 Member Join Date: July 9, 2011 Location: SC Posts: 1	Model 10-8 .38 Special Thank you for your help with all these requests.. My dad gave me a SW .38 Special with original box, which was purchased by his dad. Model on box is 10-8, finish is blue, 4" barrel, and stock "S". Beside box labeld "Special Feature" is hand written "HB" in red ink. Serial on bottom of squared butt is 8D02XXX Do you have any manufacture date or information on this, and maybe what the "HB" stands for. I have the box, receipt (purchased in 3/81 for $248), and owners manual. I appreciate the help because of the family connection to this gun.