Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers - Page 135

knifeguy68 · July 30, 2011, 10:27 PM

Serial number on the bottom of the grip is AFH9xxx

It is a Model 36 with 2" barrel.

Just wondering about when it was made...much appreciated!

Radagast · July 31, 2011, 02:39 AM

knifeguy68:
Around November 1984. Serial numbers in the AEVxxxx to AFJxxxx range shipped during that month.

bbuddtec · July 31, 2011, 07:42 AM

Thanks for the lookup...

a) .38 sp
b) 4" bbl
c) square butt, checkered & medallion wood
d) 6 shot
e) red inlay front, fully adj rear
f) 25K79xx
g) 67-1

sorry, no pic yet.

Thanks again, -Bryan

Radagast · July 31, 2011, 08:50 AM

bbuddtec: 1978.

knifeguy68 · July 31, 2011, 10:39 AM

Thank you very much!

Nutbustd · July 31, 2011, 07:19 PM

Okay here is another 357mag, 4inch barrel, square butt, 6 shot, model 681 SS fixed sights serial# AAF8XXX Thank you so much!! nutbustd PS hellava good shooter!!

Radagast · August 1, 2011, 09:27 AM

Nutbusted:
Your Model 681 Distinguished Service Magnum Stainless was probably manufactured in 1981 and was likely in the first batch to leave the factory. 1927 guns in the serial range AAB9378 to AAL1304 shipped in April 1981. Regular production began at serial number AAE3887, only 53180 units were manufactured before the 681 was discontinued in 1992.
Your gun is subject to a recall. With some magnum ammo it is possible for the primer to flow back into the firing pin bushing and lock up the cylinder. Under the recall a new firing pin and bushing is fitted and an M is stamped beside the Model number under the cylinder yoke. If your gun already has the M then it has been modified.
If you wish to have your gun modified call S&W. They will pay shipping both ways.

kemper · August 1, 2011, 01:49 PM

This old 32 S&W revolver has been in the family for decades. Any help in identifying the date of manufacture, model and current value of this old revolver would be much appreciated. Here's some additional information. On the frame it has the the number "54662" or "54602" (hard to see) and on the grip it has the number "624058". I assume the number on the grip is the serial number is that correct ? Again, any information on this old revolver that's been in the family for years would be appreciated.

Nutbustd · August 2, 2011, 10:32 AM

Thank you so much for the info. I did contact S&W and they pay all shipping. So since it is there they can do a nice trigger job on it. Again thank you Nutbustd

alrutzz · August 2, 2011, 07:19 PM

I got one for you. 686-4, 6" (Think it was ported by original owner), round butt. RWC01xx.

Here's a picture:

Almond27 · August 2, 2011, 10:00 PM

A)357magnum
B) 4 inch barrel
C)Square butt
D)6 shot
E) adjustable rear blued and red ramp front insert
F)50K59xx
G)66-1

Thanks

Allwood · August 4, 2011, 01:18 AM

Hi, and thank you for your I am curious to the age and value of a:
38
4"
square?
6
fixed
grip/barrel 2886xx
Also 7055 in the notch
Side of barrel 38 S S&W Special CTG
Mass usa pat T.14.09 DEC.29.14

Radagast · August 4, 2011, 07:54 AM

Allwood:
You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured between 1915 & 1919, with 1915 or 1916 being likely. The .38 M&P is the ancestor of todays Model 10 revolver. Your gun lacks the internal hammer block safety introduced during World War II. If dropped it could fire, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty. It was manufactured before heat treatment of cylinders was introduced, so stick to standard velocity lead ammo only, no PlusP, +P+, jacketed or semi jacketed ammo. The sites will be calibrated to the 158 grain lead round nose load.
Value is not high as several million M&Ps were made, say $250 to $350 in good to very good condition.

Almond27:
Your Model 66-1 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1978 or 1979. Serial range for those years was 25K0001 to 56K9999 so 1979 seems likely.

alrutzz:
The 686-4 was manufactured between 1993 & 1997. From the pic I think your gun is a seven shot 686 Plus. These were introduced in 1995.
Product code 104277 was the six inch barrelled "Rusty Wallace" with an RWC serial prefix. This was a special run for Lew Horton, the only pic I found on the web was on Lew Horton's site and it appeared to be unported.

Radagast · August 4, 2011, 08:03 AM

kemper:
Your gun should be a Model 30 .32 Hand Ejector manufactured between 1956 & 1961. If the gun has Model 30 stamped under the cylinder yoke then 1957 to 1961. If there is no model number then the gun is from late 1956 or early 1957, as the ramp front sight was introduced in late 1956 and model numbers were introduced in 1957.
Value is not high, probably around the $250 mark. Caliber markings should be .32 S&W Long, not .32 S&W, although you can shoot both cartridges in the Model 30. The grips are not original, fake stag grips had a period of popularity in the 1950s, today the original walnut grips would be more desirable to a collector.

Water-Man · August 5, 2011, 01:03 PM

Model 10 - .38 Special - tapered barrel - pinned - 6 shot
3" VPD103
4D79XXX
Square butt

Radagast · August 5, 2011, 05:57 PM

Waterman:
Sounds like you have a Victorian Police gun, these are Australian trade ins that recently hit the market, VicPol are now issued .40 S&W M&Ps. Your Model 10 was manufactured in 1979.

Water-Man · August 6, 2011, 12:48 AM

Radagast,

Thanks for your assistance.

W-M

Heavies · August 6, 2011, 11:42 PM

Model 65-3
3" stainless
ACN02xx
.357 magnum
Round butt

For some reason it has a brass ejector rod. Does that mean anything?
What is it worth? It is in fairly good condition.
Thank you for the advice!

Radagast · August 7, 2011, 04:10 AM

Heavies:
Your Model 65-3 .357 magnum Military & Police Heavy Barrel Stainless was manufactured in in 1983. Brass is a soft metal, I can't see the ejector rod holding up well under magnums. my guess is it may have been nitrided to give it a fake gold finish. Either way, brass or nitride or even real gold, it isn't a standard S&W product.

gbball98 · August 7, 2011, 05:06 AM

Can anyone help with the birth date of my model 36 nickel 2"? Serial ANR20XX.

Radagast · August 7, 2011, 05:44 AM

gbball98:
1986 seems likely. Serial numbers in the ALCxxxx range shipped in November 1985, in the AVBxxxx range in July 1987. There is a gap in the serial number ranges in the Standard Catalog of S&W between those dates. I would guesstimate your gun shipping in the first six months of 1986.

Radagast · August 7, 2011, 05:53 AM

Time to give a free plug to the main source of the information in this thread.

Anyone interested in the history, variations and specifications of S&W firearms should purchase a copy of The Standard Catalog of S&W 3rd Edition by Supica & Nahas, published by Gun Digest Books.
Published in 2006 it is a wealth of information. As Jim Supica has sold off his collectable firearms dealership ArmChairGunShow.com and now lead the NRA's firearms museum I'm sure the odd royalty payment won't go astray.
If we buy enough books then he might feel inclined to upgrade it to a fourth edition.

It is readily available on Amazon, Ebay, Barnes & Noble or direct from the publisher.

gbball98 · August 7, 2011, 08:11 AM

Thank you Radagast

Heavies · August 7, 2011, 09:27 AM

Radagast,

Thank you very much for the info.

OldTman · August 7, 2011, 03:36 PM

A. 357
B. 2.5”
C. Round butt with rubber grips
D. 6
E. Target adjustable
F. 98K88xx
G. 66-1

July 31, 2011, 02:39 AM	#3352
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	knifeguy68: Around November 1984. Serial numbers in the AEVxxxx to AFJxxxx range shipped during that month. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

July 31, 2011, 07:42 AM	#3353
bbuddtec Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: The Land of Opportunity. Posts: 460	Thanks for the lookup... a) .38 sp b) 4" bbl c) square butt, checkered & medallion wood d) 6 shot e) red inlay front, fully adj rear f) 25K79xx g) 67-1 sorry, no pic yet. Thanks again, -Bryan __________________ "A golf course is the willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range." - Jeff Cooper

July 31, 2011, 08:50 AM	#3354
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	bbuddtec: 1978. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 1, 2011, 09:27 AM	#3357
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Nutbusted: Your Model 681 Distinguished Service Magnum Stainless was probably manufactured in 1981 and was likely in the first batch to leave the factory. 1927 guns in the serial range AAB9378 to AAL1304 shipped in April 1981. Regular production began at serial number AAE3887, only 53180 units were manufactured before the 681 was discontinued in 1992. Your gun is subject to a recall. With some magnum ammo it is possible for the primer to flow back into the firing pin bushing and lock up the cylinder. Under the recall a new firing pin and bushing is fitted and an M is stamped beside the Model number under the cylinder yoke. If your gun already has the M then it has been modified. If you wish to have your gun modified call S&W. They will pay shipping both ways. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 2, 2011, 10:00 PM	#3361
Almond27 Member Join Date: September 4, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 418	A)357magnum B) 4 inch barrel C)Square butt D)6 shot E) adjustable rear blued and red ramp front insert F)50K59xx G)66-1 Thanks Last edited by Almond27; August 2, 2011 at 10:04 PM. Reason: error

July 30, 2011, 10:27 PM	#3351
knifeguy68 Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Posts: 12	Serial number on the bottom of the grip is AFH9xxx It is a Model 36 with 2" barrel. Just wondering about when it was made...much appreciated!

July 31, 2011, 10:39 AM	#3355
knifeguy68 Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Posts: 12	Thank you very much!

July 31, 2011, 07:19 PM	#3356
Nutbustd Member Join Date: March 29, 2011 Posts: 86	Okay here is another 357mag, 4inch barrel, square butt, 6 shot, model 681 SS fixed sights serial# AAF8XXX Thank you so much!! nutbustd PS hellava good shooter!!

August 2, 2011, 10:32 AM	#3359
Nutbustd Member Join Date: March 29, 2011 Posts: 86	Thank you so much for the info. I did contact S&W and they pay all shipping. So since it is there they can do a nice trigger job on it. Again thank you Nutbustd

August 2, 2011, 07:19 PM	#3360
alrutzz Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Location: TN Posts: 26	I got one for you. 686-4, 6" (Think it was ported by original owner), round butt. RWC01xx. Here's a picture:

August 4, 2011, 01:18 AM	#3362
Allwood Member Join Date: August 4, 2011 Posts: 1	Hi, and thank you for your I am curious to the age and value of a: 38 4" square? 6 fixed grip/barrel 2886xx Also 7055 in the notch Side of barrel 38 S S&W Special CTG Mass usa pat T.14.09 DEC.29.14

August 4, 2011, 07:54 AM	#3363
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Allwood: You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured between 1915 & 1919, with 1915 or 1916 being likely. The .38 M&P is the ancestor of todays Model 10 revolver. Your gun lacks the internal hammer block safety introduced during World War II. If dropped it could fire, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty. It was manufactured before heat treatment of cylinders was introduced, so stick to standard velocity lead ammo only, no PlusP, +P+, jacketed or semi jacketed ammo. The sites will be calibrated to the 158 grain lead round nose load. Value is not high as several million M&Ps were made, say $250 to $350 in good to very good condition. Almond27: Your Model 66-1 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1978 or 1979. Serial range for those years was 25K0001 to 56K9999 so 1979 seems likely. alrutzz: The 686-4 was manufactured between 1993 & 1997. From the pic I think your gun is a seven shot 686 Plus. These were introduced in 1995. Product code 104277 was the six inch barrelled "Rusty Wallace" with an RWC serial prefix. This was a special run for Lew Horton, the only pic I found on the web was on Lew Horton's site and it appeared to be unported. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 4, 2011, 08:03 AM	#3364
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	kemper: Your gun should be a Model 30 .32 Hand Ejector manufactured between 1956 & 1961. If the gun has Model 30 stamped under the cylinder yoke then 1957 to 1961. If there is no model number then the gun is from late 1956 or early 1957, as the ramp front sight was introduced in late 1956 and model numbers were introduced in 1957. Value is not high, probably around the $250 mark. Caliber markings should be .32 S&W Long, not .32 S&W, although you can shoot both cartridges in the Model 30. The grips are not original, fake stag grips had a period of popularity in the 1950s, today the original walnut grips would be more desirable to a collector. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 5, 2011, 01:03 PM	#3365
Water-Man Member Join Date: March 22, 2008 Location: North Georgia & South Florida Posts: 1,560	Model 10 - .38 Special - tapered barrel - pinned - 6 shot 3" VPD103 4D79XXX Square butt __________________ PROUD TO BE A VETERAN "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates

August 5, 2011, 05:57 PM	#3366
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Waterman: Sounds like you have a Victorian Police gun, these are Australian trade ins that recently hit the market, VicPol are now issued .40 S&W M&Ps. Your Model 10 was manufactured in 1979. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 6, 2011, 12:48 AM	#3367
Water-Man Member Join Date: March 22, 2008 Location: North Georgia & South Florida Posts: 1,560	Radagast, Thanks for your assistance. W-M __________________ PROUD TO BE A VETERAN "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates

August 6, 2011, 11:42 PM	#3368
Heavies Member Join Date: October 30, 2009 Location: HAWAII Posts: 147	Model 65-3 3" stainless ACN02xx .357 magnum Round butt For some reason it has a brass ejector rod. Does that mean anything? What is it worth? It is in fairly good condition. Thank you for the advice! __________________ Hawaii Shooters Forum 2AHawaii http://2aHawaii.com/index.php?action...referredby=616

August 7, 2011, 04:10 AM	#3369
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Heavies: Your Model 65-3 .357 magnum Military & Police Heavy Barrel Stainless was manufactured in in 1983. Brass is a soft metal, I can't see the ejector rod holding up well under magnums. my guess is it may have been nitrided to give it a fake gold finish. Either way, brass or nitride or even real gold, it isn't a standard S&W product. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 7, 2011, 05:06 AM	#3370
gbball98 Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 55	Model 36 Can anyone help with the birth date of my model 36 nickel 2"? Serial ANR20XX.

August 7, 2011, 05:44 AM	#3371
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	gbball98: 1986 seems likely. Serial numbers in the ALCxxxx range shipped in November 1985, in the AVBxxxx range in July 1987. There is a gap in the serial number ranges in the Standard Catalog of S&W between those dates. I would guesstimate your gun shipping in the first six months of 1986. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 7, 2011, 05:53 AM	#3372
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,375	Time to give a free plug to the main source of the information in this thread. Anyone interested in the history, variations and specifications of S&W firearms should purchase a copy of The Standard Catalog of S&W 3rd Edition by Supica & Nahas, published by Gun Digest Books. Published in 2006 it is a wealth of information. As Jim Supica has sold off his collectable firearms dealership ArmChairGunShow.com and now lead the NRA's firearms museum I'm sure the odd royalty payment won't go astray. If we buy enough books then he might feel inclined to upgrade it to a fourth edition. It is readily available on Amazon, Ebay, Barnes & Noble or direct from the publisher. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 7, 2011, 08:11 AM	#3373
gbball98 Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 55	Thank you Radagast

August 7, 2011, 09:27 AM	#3374
Heavies Member Join Date: October 30, 2009 Location: HAWAII Posts: 147	Radagast, Thank you very much for the info. __________________ Hawaii Shooters Forum 2AHawaii http://2aHawaii.com/index.php?action...referredby=616

August 7, 2011, 03:36 PM	#3375
OldTman Member Join Date: July 18, 2011 Posts: 35	my turn on a S&W 66-1 A. 357 B. 2.5” C. Round butt with rubber grips D. 6 E. Target adjustable F. 98K88xx G. 66-1