Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers - Page 144

Radagast · October 13, 2011, 08:20 PM

Northmen:
Looking at the pic I would not be surprised if your gun is a .32 S&W, in which case it is a .32 Safety Hammerless 1st Model manufactured between 1994 and 1902. Serial range for that period was 53252 to 91417. It is still a blackpowder firearm.

Try www.canadiangunnutz.com , it is the Canadian firearms forum. Someone should be able to point you in the right direction for ammo.

Northmen · October 14, 2011, 03:00 PM

I re-checked the caliber and it is .38 S & W. A 9mm round fits nicely in the clyinder. I have a couple of the .38 S & W rounds and they fit except for the base of the cartridge. I am stumped as to why this is.

Radagast · October 14, 2011, 08:25 PM

The base of the 9mm case is 9.93mm in diameter. The base of the .38 S&W is 9.65mm. If a 9mm will chamber then the .38 S&W cases you have are out of spec.

Sealevel · October 18, 2011, 06:08 PM

Radagast, I would appreciate the DOB of the following:
a. .357 Magnum
b. 6" barrel
c. Square Butt
d. 6 shot
e. Adj sights
f. CAF69xx
g. Model 586-4

Thank you for your help.

Radagast · October 18, 2011, 07:37 PM

Sealevel:
Your Model 586-4 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured between August 1994 (BRFxxxx) & January 1996 (CAMxxxx). So 1995 seems certain.

cyclopsshooter · October 18, 2011, 08:13 PM

a. .357 Magnum
b. 6" barrel
c. Square Butt
d. 6 shot
e. Adj sights
f. S 117295
g. Model 28 NO DASH

Radagast · October 19, 2011, 06:23 AM

cyclopsshooter:
Your Model 28 Highway Patrolman has a serial number that falls into the period 1954-1955. Per the Standard Catalog of S&W the serial range for those years was S103000 to S139999.
The problem is that model numbers were not introduced until 1957, prior to that it was simply the Highway Patrolman. From 1957 to 1960 it was the Model 28, in 1960 the Model 28-1 was released.
My guess is the frame was one that sat on the shelf for some time before being completed, so 1957-1960 is the time period. By 1960 S&W had reached the S207000 range, I find it hard to believe that the frame sat there for that long while another 100,000 frames were completed. So if I had to take a guess I would say your gun dates to 1957 and is one of the first to be stamped with a model number.

mesinge2 · October 19, 2011, 10:20 PM

a) .357 Magnum
b) 4"
c) Square
d) 6
e) Adjustable rear
f) xxxxxxx
g) 586

I likes me some 357s. This in 357 number 14

Radagast · October 20, 2011, 12:31 AM

Mesinge:
You have a sickness. Luckily there is no cure.

Your Model 586 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured in late 1982. AAFxxxx serials shipped in October & ABLxxxx serials shipped in December.

There is a recall out on this model. With some magnum ammunition the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing. Under the terms of the recall S&W will install a new firing pin bushing and firing pin. They will pay shipping both ways, so give them a call if you want to get your gun done.
If your gun has already been modified there should be an M stamped after the model number in the cylinder yoke cut out.

mesinge2 · October 20, 2011, 02:02 PM

Thanks for the info Radagast. I don' t think there was an M on mine. I'll have to check when I get home

harley 1986 · October 20, 2011, 11:05 PM

Greetings-- a new addition followed me home, joins bug brother 66-1.. would appreciate some born on info please?

Thanks

a) 357 mag
b) 2 in snubby
c) square (??)
d) 6
e) fixed front, adj rea
f) 5X763
g) 66-2

Radagast · October 21, 2011, 01:50 AM

harley 1886: Your Model 66-1 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured between 1977 & 1982. The serial number you have quoted is actually an assembly number used to track parts in the factory. Your serial number should have a K in it, falling somewhere between 10K0001 and 269K999. The serial number will be found on the botton of the grip frame. If your gun has aftermarket or target grips then they may be covering the serial number. The serial number is sometimes, but not always duplicated on the inside of the cylinder yoke cut out.
Check and post the number and I'll give you the year.
The 2.5 inch barrel model 66 was a round butt variant.

Radagast · October 21, 2011, 01:55 AM

harley 1986: I mis-read your post. as a Model 66-2 your gun was manufactured between 1982 & 1986. If a gun from 1982 to 1983 then the serial range is 125K000 to 311K273. After 1983 S&W went to a three letter prefix, four letter suffix serial number. Between January 1983 & July 1987 the serial range was ABL4000 to AVB8654. As mentioned above, post the serial number and I'll give you the year.

harley 1986 · October 21, 2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radagast

harley 1986: I mis-read your post. as a Model 66-2 your gun was manufactured between 1982 & 1986. If a gun from 1982 to 1983 then the serial range is 125K000 to 311K273. After 1983 S&W went to a three letter prefix, four letter suffix serial number. Between January 1983 & July 1987 the serial range was ABL4000 to AVB8654. As mentioned above, post the serial number and I'll give you the year.

Sorry... I screwed up... 252K2XX
thanks

Radagast · October 21, 2011, 07:50 PM

harley 1986: Your Model 66 was manufactured in 1982.

harley 1986 · October 21, 2011, 08:53 PM

Radagast... thanks... the snubby will now keep the 66-1 4 Inch company... when sharing carry duty with the 12-2 Airweight..

waidmann · October 21, 2011, 08:54 PM

Hi Radagast,
Model 10-5, 3 inch, square butt, nickel, SN# D6389XX.

Hope this finds you well,
Waidmann

Radagast · October 22, 2011, 07:15 AM

waidmann:
1973 or 1974. Serial range was D510001 to D659901, so 1974 seems likely.
Still not fully recovered, but I am getting there. I hope you are doing well too, I've enjoyed learning about guns from Germany in your many contributions to the firearms research sub-forum.

griz1 · October 22, 2011, 07:38 AM

info
357 mag
4 inch
square
6 shot
adjustable
ser # 2k97xxx
modek 19

griz1 · October 22, 2011, 07:41 AM

for the above post
Model 19-3
Thanks

The Doc · October 22, 2011, 10:12 AM

A new addition to the collection. I think it is a .32 Hand Ejector built on I-frame.

a) caliber -- .32 S&W Long
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) -- 3 inches
c) grips shape -- Round
d) number of shots/cylinder bores -- Six
e) type of sights -- Fixed
f) serial number -- 6527xx (no letter in front)
g) Model number if it is under the crane. -- No model number stamped

Thank you .

waidmann · October 22, 2011, 11:13 AM

Radagast,
I am well and pleased to read of your progress. I am happy to contribute what little I know.

The collective we are indebted to you for your continuous service.

Thank you,
Waidmann

Radagast · October 22, 2011, 10:13 PM

The Doc:
You have a .32 Hand Ejector (Postwar) made in 1956/57. Per the Standard Catalog of S&W the upper sideplate screw was deleted at serial number 6409980 in 1956 and model numbers were introduced in 1957. It should be an improved I frame model with a coil mainspring and no strain screw in the front of the grip.

griz1:
Your Model 19-3 Combat magnum was manufactured in 1972.

waidmann:
I do this because I enjoy it, but i don't mind getting the occasional thank you.

The Doc · October 23, 2011, 01:23 AM

Thank you Radagast .

regards,
The Doc

tnpatriot · October 24, 2011, 10:56 AM

a) .357
b) 4"
c) hogue round rubber
d) six shot
e) adjustable rear
f) BUC86xx
g)686-4

October 13, 2011, 08:20 PM	#3576
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	Northmen: Looking at the pic I would not be surprised if your gun is a .32 S&W, in which case it is a .32 Safety Hammerless 1st Model manufactured between 1994 and 1902. Serial range for that period was 53252 to 91417. It is still a blackpowder firearm. Try www.canadiangunnutz.com , it is the Canadian firearms forum. Someone should be able to point you in the right direction for ammo. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 14, 2011, 08:25 PM	#3578
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	The base of the 9mm case is 9.93mm in diameter. The base of the .38 S&W is 9.65mm. If a 9mm will chamber then the .38 S&W cases you have are out of spec. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 18, 2011, 07:37 PM	#3580
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	Sealevel: Your Model 586-4 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured between August 1994 (BRFxxxx) & January 1996 (CAMxxxx). So 1995 seems certain. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 19, 2011, 06:23 AM	#3582
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	cyclopsshooter: Your Model 28 Highway Patrolman has a serial number that falls into the period 1954-1955. Per the Standard Catalog of S&W the serial range for those years was S103000 to S139999. The problem is that model numbers were not introduced until 1957, prior to that it was simply the Highway Patrolman. From 1957 to 1960 it was the Model 28, in 1960 the Model 28-1 was released. My guess is the frame was one that sat on the shelf for some time before being completed, so 1957-1960 is the time period. By 1960 S&W had reached the S207000 range, I find it hard to believe that the frame sat there for that long while another 100,000 frames were completed. So if I had to take a guess I would say your gun dates to 1957 and is one of the first to be stamped with a model number. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 19, 2011, 10:20 PM	#3583
mesinge2 Member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,762	a) .357 Magnum b) 4" c) Square d) 6 e) Adjustable rear f) xxxxxxx g) 586 I likes me some 357s. This in 357 number 14 __________________ NRA Certified Instructor Last edited by mesinge2; October 20, 2011 at 02:00 PM.

October 14, 2011, 03:00 PM	#3577
Northmen Member Join Date: October 12, 2011 Posts: 3	I re-checked the caliber and it is .38 S & W. A 9mm round fits nicely in the clyinder. I have a couple of the .38 S & W rounds and they fit except for the base of the cartridge. I am stumped as to why this is.

October 18, 2011, 06:08 PM	#3579
Sealevel Member Join Date: July 15, 2011 Posts: 38	Radagast, I would appreciate the DOB of the following: a. .357 Magnum b. 6" barrel c. Square Butt d. 6 shot e. Adj sights f. CAF69xx g. Model 586-4 Thank you for your help.

October 18, 2011, 08:13 PM	#3581
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	a. .357 Magnum b. 6" barrel c. Square Butt d. 6 shot e. Adj sights f. S 117295 g. Model 28 NO DASH

October 20, 2011, 12:31 AM	#3584
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	Mesinge: You have a sickness. Luckily there is no cure. Your Model 586 Distinguished Combat Magnum was manufactured in late 1982. AAFxxxx serials shipped in October & ABLxxxx serials shipped in December. There is a recall out on this model. With some magnum ammunition the primer can flow back into the firing pin bushing. Under the terms of the recall S&W will install a new firing pin bushing and firing pin. They will pay shipping both ways, so give them a call if you want to get your gun done. If your gun has already been modified there should be an M stamped after the model number in the cylinder yoke cut out. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 20, 2011, 02:02 PM	#3585
mesinge2 Member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,762	Thanks for the info Radagast. I don' t think there was an M on mine. I'll have to check when I get home __________________ NRA Certified Instructor

October 20, 2011, 11:05 PM	#3586
harley 1986 Member Join Date: October 24, 2009 Posts: 10	Greetings-- a new addition followed me home, joins bug brother 66-1.. would appreciate some born on info please? Thanks a) 357 mag b) 2 in snubby c) square (??) d) 6 e) fixed front, adj rea f) 5X763 g) 66-2

October 21, 2011, 01:50 AM	#3587
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	harley 1886: Your Model 66-1 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured between 1977 & 1982. The serial number you have quoted is actually an assembly number used to track parts in the factory. Your serial number should have a K in it, falling somewhere between 10K0001 and 269K999. The serial number will be found on the botton of the grip frame. If your gun has aftermarket or target grips then they may be covering the serial number. The serial number is sometimes, but not always duplicated on the inside of the cylinder yoke cut out. Check and post the number and I'll give you the year. The 2.5 inch barrel model 66 was a round butt variant. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 21, 2011, 01:55 AM	#3588
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	harley 1986: I mis-read your post. as a Model 66-2 your gun was manufactured between 1982 & 1986. If a gun from 1982 to 1983 then the serial range is 125K000 to 311K273. After 1983 S&W went to a three letter prefix, four letter suffix serial number. Between January 1983 & July 1987 the serial range was ABL4000 to AVB8654. As mentioned above, post the serial number and I'll give you the year. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 21, 2011, 07:50 PM	#3590
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	harley 1986: Your Model 66 was manufactured in 1982. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 21, 2011, 08:53 PM	#3591
harley 1986 Member Join Date: October 24, 2009 Posts: 10	Radagast... thanks... the snubby will now keep the 66-1 4 Inch company... when sharing carry duty with the 12-2 Airweight..

October 21, 2011, 08:54 PM	#3592
waidmann Member Join Date: January 25, 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 655	Hi Radagast, Model 10-5, 3 inch, square butt, nickel, SN# D6389XX. Hope this finds you well, Waidmann

October 22, 2011, 07:15 AM	#3593
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	waidmann: 1973 or 1974. Serial range was D510001 to D659901, so 1974 seems likely. Still not fully recovered, but I am getting there. I hope you are doing well too, I've enjoyed learning about guns from Germany in your many contributions to the firearms research sub-forum. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 22, 2011, 07:38 AM	#3594
griz1 Member Join Date: October 30, 2009 Location: soldotna alaska Posts: 54	info 357 mag 4 inch square 6 shot adjustable ser # 2k97xxx modek 19

October 22, 2011, 07:41 AM	#3595
griz1 Member Join Date: October 30, 2009 Location: soldotna alaska Posts: 54	for the above post Model 19-3 Thanks

October 22, 2011, 10:12 AM	#3596
The Doc Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 31	A new addition to the collection. I think it is a .32 Hand Ejector built on I-frame. a) caliber -- .32 S&W Long b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) -- 3 inches c) grips shape -- Round d) number of shots/cylinder bores -- Six e) type of sights -- Fixed f) serial number -- 6527xx (no letter in front) g) Model number if it is under the crane. -- No model number stamped Thank you . Last edited by The Doc; October 23, 2011 at 10:30 AM.

October 22, 2011, 11:13 AM	#3597
waidmann Member Join Date: January 25, 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 655	Radagast, I am well and pleased to read of your progress. I am happy to contribute what little I know. The collective we are indebted to you for your continuous service. Thank you, Waidmann

October 22, 2011, 10:13 PM	#3598
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	The Doc: You have a .32 Hand Ejector (Postwar) made in 1956/57. Per the Standard Catalog of S&W the upper sideplate screw was deleted at serial number 6409980 in 1956 and model numbers were introduced in 1957. It should be an improved I frame model with a coil mainspring and no strain screw in the front of the grip. griz1: Your Model 19-3 Combat magnum was manufactured in 1972. waidmann: I do this because I enjoy it, but i don't mind getting the occasional thank you. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 23, 2011, 01:23 AM	#3599
The Doc Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 31	Thank you Radagast . regards, The Doc Last edited by The Doc; October 23, 2011 at 10:29 AM.

October 24, 2011, 10:56 AM	#3600
tnpatriot Member Join Date: June 11, 2009 Posts: 7	a) .357 b) 4" c) hogue round rubber d) six shot e) adjustable rear f) BUC86xx g)686-4