Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers - Page 183

The Doc · October 17, 2012, 11:03 PM

Thank you Radagast.

ArchAngelCD · October 18, 2012, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chhodge69

a) 38 spl
b) 4"
c) sq?
d) 6
e) fixed
f) BNR-34xx
g) 10-10

thanks!

ps: can I shoot +p from this gun safely?

I'll answer the +P question first. According to S&W any all Steel .38 Special with a model number (1957 on) is safe to shoot with +P ammo.

The Model 10-10 was released in 1988 and ran to 1997. It looks like your serial number comes back the first few weeks of Mar 1993. It looks like you got the last model before the change over to MIM parts. Good for you...

Radagast · October 18, 2012, 04:30 AM

KingMedicine: In that case late 1987, probably shipping by January 1988.

chhodge69 · October 18, 2012, 10:03 AM

thank you!

Autolycus · October 18, 2012, 12:44 PM

Thanks Radagast. Revolvers are new to me.

evets_56_98 · October 21, 2012, 12:32 PM

a-38 b-3.25 in. c-rounded d-5shot e-half moon front fixed dual rear f-c12320 (u.s. revolver 38s&w top break) ps my first post on this forum

Radagast · October 21, 2012, 04:57 PM

evets_56_98:

Your gun is not a S&W. U.S. Revolver Co. was an inexpensive brand produced by Iver Johnson. Depending on if it has an internal or exposed hammer, it is either a U.S. REVOLVER CO. AUTOMATIC HAMMERLESS or a U.S. REVOLVER CO. AUTOMATIC HAMMER. For either gun it will be the large frame version.
Neither has the the "Hammer the Hammer" transfer bar safety of the more expensive Iver Johnson product. The hammerless version has a rebounding hammer, the hammer version does not. Because of this the hammer version should be treated as a 4 shooter, with the chamber under the hammer left empty. Otherwise the firing pin will be left resting on the primer.

I'm not an expert on Iver Johnson products. I believe that your gun was made between 1918 & 1924.

Reading through the following thread and any related threads may help you nail it down to a particular year. Unfortunately Bill Goforth has passed away. He wrote the book on Iver Johnson and answered most internet questions on their production.
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=47595

The Doc · October 22, 2012, 04:42 AM

a) caliber - .32 S&W Long
b) bbl length - 3 in
c) grips shape - square
d) number of cylinder bores - 6
e) type of sights - fixed
f) serial number - J 9873XX
g) Model number - 31-1

Radagast · October 22, 2012, 06:58 AM

The Doc: 1981 for that gun. With that serial number it should be a .38 special Model 36-1, but S&W were not always consistent and the Model 36 & 31 used the same frame so a substitution was possible.

The Doc · October 22, 2012, 09:03 AM

I was almost sure that it was mod 36 and not 31 that had a J prefix. Learnt something new here. Thank you Radagast.

evets_56_98 · October 22, 2012, 04:45 PM

Thank you Radagast for your help.Yes my gun does shoot 38s&w short ammo not 38 special.All I knew was that these particular guns were produced between 1910 and 1935.Again thanks,and hopefully I'll get this date narrowed down

jshrop6004 · October 23, 2012, 07:31 AM

Hey Rad, another in my quest to own one of every S&W revolver!:

a) caliber - .38 S&W Special
b) bbl length - 2"
c) grips shape - round
d) number of cylinder bores - 6
e) type of sights - fixed
f) serial number - C5367**
g) Model number - 10 no dash

This example has a nickel finish, pinned barrel, and non-recessed ejector. Thanks for all the info!

Radagast · October 23, 2012, 09:41 AM

jshrop6004:
1961 or 1962. Serial range for those years was C474149 to C622699, so late 1961 seems likely.
The .38 special guns were never recessed. Generally that was reserved for the magnums and the rimfires.

jshrop6004 · October 23, 2012, 12:16 PM

Thanks Rad, spot on as always!

birdshooter · October 24, 2012, 09:07 PM

I know it's a new one but I like to know anyway. I always appreciate it!

.45 ACP
4"
Round
6
Adjustable
CNH94XX
625-8

Radagast · October 24, 2012, 10:34 PM

Birdshooter:
Can't help you out with that one, as the list of serial numbers in the Standard catalog of S&W ends in 2004.
Based on the rate of usage of serial numbers in the 5 years up to 2004, I would expect your gun to have been manufactured in the last 18 months.

birdshooter · October 24, 2012, 10:39 PM

Thanks Radagast. After I posted I had a feeling that it was too new. I really enjoy the information you provide!

wrs840 · October 28, 2012, 01:43 PM

a) 38 spl
b) 4"
c) sq
d) 6 shot
e) adjustable, red ramp front, black blade rear
f) 25K89xx
g) 67-1

Thanks in advance !

Radagast · October 28, 2012, 08:23 PM

wrs840:
Your Model 67-1 .38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless was manufactured in 1978.

cyclopsshooter · October 29, 2012, 06:48 PM

a) 38 spl
b) 3"
c) sq?
d) 6
e) fixed
f) 6j3795
g) 36 no dash

spoonman72 · October 29, 2012, 07:59 PM

Howdy guys been a while since i been on the forums,but was hoping to get some info on a revolver i'm looking to pickup.
A:.22
B:6''
C:6
D:can't remember if they were adjustable or fixed but can look tomorrow
E: serial number on barrel and below grips Reads K507xx the one on the yoke cut reads 442xx
G:hoping you can tell me

lol

Radagast · October 29, 2012, 08:50 PM

spoonman72:
You have a K22 Target Masterpiece manufactured in 1948. This was S&W's premium target revolver of the day, along with the nearly identical K38& K32 in .38 Special & .32 S&W Long. They still command a premium price today.
in 1957 the K22 was designated the Model 17.

cyclopsshooter:
Your Model 36 Chiefs Special was manufactured in 1971. The lack of a dash means it is a tapered barrel version. The three inch heavy barrel was the 36-1.

spoonman72 · October 29, 2012, 09:47 PM

Thank you sir its in about 98 percent condition only mark on it is on the bottom of the handle

Radagast · October 29, 2012, 10:56 PM

spoonman22:
Sounds like you got a beauty.

788Ham · October 29, 2012, 11:14 PM

How about a S&W .38-44.

5" barrel
Original grip
Ser.# 401**
75%

October 18, 2012, 04:30 AM	#4553
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	KingMedicine: In that case late 1987, probably shipping by January 1988. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 18, 2012, 10:03 AM	#4554
chhodge69 Member Join Date: June 19, 2011 Location: CLT, NC Posts: 463	thank you! __________________ If you won't trust me with my guns why should I trust you with my freedom?

October 21, 2012, 12:32 PM	#4556
evets_56_98 Member Join Date: October 21, 2012 Location: Mt.Vernon,OH. Posts: 6	need to know yr.of manufacture a-38 b-3.25 in. c-rounded d-5shot e-half moon front fixed dual rear f-c12320 (u.s. revolver 38s&w top break) ps my first post on this forum

October 21, 2012, 04:57 PM	#4557
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	evets_56_98: Your gun is not a S&W. U.S. Revolver Co. was an inexpensive brand produced by Iver Johnson. Depending on if it has an internal or exposed hammer, it is either a U.S. REVOLVER CO. AUTOMATIC HAMMERLESS or a U.S. REVOLVER CO. AUTOMATIC HAMMER. For either gun it will be the large frame version. Neither has the the "Hammer the Hammer" transfer bar safety of the more expensive Iver Johnson product. The hammerless version has a rebounding hammer, the hammer version does not. Because of this the hammer version should be treated as a 4 shooter, with the chamber under the hammer left empty. Otherwise the firing pin will be left resting on the primer. I'm not an expert on Iver Johnson products. I believe that your gun was made between 1918 & 1924. Reading through the following thread and any related threads may help you nail it down to a particular year. Unfortunately Bill Goforth has passed away. He wrote the book on Iver Johnson and answered most internet questions on their production. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=47595 __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 22, 2012, 04:42 AM	#4558
The Doc Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 31	Serial number with prefix "J" ? a) caliber - .32 S&W Long b) bbl length - 3 in c) grips shape - square d) number of cylinder bores - 6 e) type of sights - fixed f) serial number - J 9873XX g) Model number - 31-1

October 17, 2012, 11:03 PM	#4551
The Doc Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 31	Thank you Radagast.

October 18, 2012, 12:44 PM	#4555
Autolycus Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: In the land of make believe. Posts: 5,464	Thanks Radagast. Revolvers are new to me.

October 22, 2012, 06:58 AM	#4559
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	The Doc: 1981 for that gun. With that serial number it should be a .38 special Model 36-1, but S&W were not always consistent and the Model 36 & 31 used the same frame so a substitution was possible. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 22, 2012, 09:03 AM	#4560
The Doc Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 31	I was almost sure that it was mod 36 and not 31 that had a J prefix. Learnt something new here. Thank you Radagast.

October 22, 2012, 04:45 PM	#4561
evets_56_98 Member Join Date: October 21, 2012 Location: Mt.Vernon,OH. Posts: 6	us revolver Thank you Radagast for your help.Yes my gun does shoot 38s&w short ammo not 38 special.All I knew was that these particular guns were produced between 1910 and 1935.Again thanks,and hopefully I'll get this date narrowed down __________________ All I know is what I know and I don't know what I don't know.

October 23, 2012, 07:31 AM	#4562
jshrop6004 Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Location: SC Posts: 40	Model 10 Hey Rad, another in my quest to own one of every S&W revolver!: a) caliber - .38 S&W Special b) bbl length - 2" c) grips shape - round d) number of cylinder bores - 6 e) type of sights - fixed f) serial number - C5367** g) Model number - 10 no dash This example has a nickel finish, pinned barrel, and non-recessed ejector. Thanks for all the info!

October 23, 2012, 09:41 AM	#4563
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	jshrop6004: 1961 or 1962. Serial range for those years was C474149 to C622699, so late 1961 seems likely. The .38 special guns were never recessed. Generally that was reserved for the magnums and the rimfires. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 23, 2012, 12:16 PM	#4564
jshrop6004 Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Location: SC Posts: 40	Model 10 Thanks Rad, spot on as always!

October 24, 2012, 09:07 PM	#4565
birdshooter Member Join Date: October 7, 2010 Posts: 85	I know it's a new one but I like to know anyway. I always appreciate it! .45 ACP 4" Round 6 Adjustable CNH94XX 625-8

October 24, 2012, 10:34 PM	#4566
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	Birdshooter: Can't help you out with that one, as the list of serial numbers in the Standard catalog of S&W ends in 2004. Based on the rate of usage of serial numbers in the 5 years up to 2004, I would expect your gun to have been manufactured in the last 18 months. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 24, 2012, 10:39 PM	#4567
birdshooter Member Join Date: October 7, 2010 Posts: 85	Thanks Radagast. After I posted I had a feeling that it was too new. I really enjoy the information you provide!

October 28, 2012, 01:43 PM	#4568
wrs840 Member Join Date: October 18, 2008 Location: Brushy Mts, NC, growing feed-crops /BioFuel fodder. Posts: 1,890	a) 38 spl b) 4" c) sq d) 6 shot e) adjustable, red ramp front, black blade rear f) 25K89xx g) 67-1 Thanks in advance ! __________________ NRA Endowment Member. ...Public Service Bulletin: There's a reason they call it the "passing" lane, and not the "riding-right-next-to-somebody" lane.

October 28, 2012, 08:23 PM	#4569
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	wrs840: Your Model 67-1 .38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless was manufactured in 1978. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 29, 2012, 06:48 PM	#4570
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	a) 38 spl b) 3" c) sq? d) 6 e) fixed f) 6j3795 g) 36 no dash __________________ The republic is not dead, it just needs its split ends trimmed.

October 29, 2012, 07:59 PM	#4571
spoonman72 Member Join Date: March 4, 2008 Location: EAST TENNESSEE Posts: 25	Howdy guys been a while since i been on the forums,but was hoping to get some info on a revolver i'm looking to pickup. A:.22 B:6'' C:6 D:can't remember if they were adjustable or fixed but can look tomorrow E: serial number on barrel and below grips Reads K507xx the one on the yoke cut reads 442xx G:hoping you can tell me lol __________________ it isn't about winning or losing,but i HATE to lose

October 29, 2012, 08:50 PM	#4572
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	spoonman72: You have a K22 Target Masterpiece manufactured in 1948. This was S&W's premium target revolver of the day, along with the nearly identical K38& K32 in .38 Special & .32 S&W Long. They still command a premium price today. in 1957 the K22 was designated the Model 17. cyclopsshooter: Your Model 36 Chiefs Special was manufactured in 1971. The lack of a dash means it is a tapered barrel version. The three inch heavy barrel was the 36-1. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy Last edited by Radagast; October 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM.

October 29, 2012, 09:47 PM	#4573
spoonman72 Member Join Date: March 4, 2008 Location: EAST TENNESSEE Posts: 25	Thank you sir its in about 98 percent condition only mark on it is on the bottom of the handle __________________ it isn't about winning or losing,but i HATE to lose

October 29, 2012, 10:56 PM	#4574
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,377	spoonman22: Sounds like you got a beauty. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

October 29, 2012, 11:14 PM	#4575
788Ham Member Join Date: September 24, 2010 Location: Hills west of Denver Posts: 2,535	How about a S&W .38-44. 5" barrel Original grip Ser.# 401** 75%