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Old February 13, 2014, 06:39 AM   #5451
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Gotcha.
Unfortunately the only info in the SCSW on the .32 Single Action is serial range 1-97574 in the period 1878-1892. From factory letters that have been posted on line I know that 2866x shipped 10 Nov. 1880 & 8837x shipped August 1887. Based on roughly 8,500 guns per year, serial number 34935 probably shipped in late 1881 or early 1882, serial number 46811 probably shipped in late late 1882 or early 1883.

If you can share Models, dates & serial numbers from your lettered guns (replace the last three digits with xxx for privacy) I can annotate my Standard Catalog of S&W and give better answers in the future.
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Old February 13, 2014, 04:55 PM   #5452
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Okay, as requested:

1) Model 1 1/2 TIP-UP, .32 RF, 3 1/2 inch barrel, No 6XX, June 1865;
2) Same as above, No. 49,2XX, November 1870;
3) New Model 1 1/2 (Model 1 1/2 Second Issue), .32 RF, 53,1XX, shipped 01 March 1871 to M W Robinson;
4) Same as above, 117,6XX, to M W Robinson, 14 Dec 1874;
5) .38 Single Action Second Model (Model 2 No 2), No 22,4XX, shipped 01 July 1878 to M W Robinson;
6) .38 Safety Hammerless, 514XX, shipped May 1891;
7) .32 Safety Hammerless (New Departure), 50,0XX, shipped 28 January 1895 to M W Robinson;
8) Same as above, No. 37,0XX, shipped to Hartley & Graham on 22 January 1896;
9) .38 Safety Hammerless Third Model, 6 inch barrel, No 84,2XX, delivered to E K Tryon Co, Philadelphia, PA 07 January 1897;
10) .44 Double Action Frontier, No 10,1XX, shipped 26 Nov 1900 to Sears, Roebuck in Chicago, IL;
11) .22 Hand Ejector First Model (22 Ladysmith), No 2,2XX shipped 18 Dec 1902 to M W Robinson;
12) .44 Hand Ejector First Model (Triple Lock) No 11,8XX shipped on 23 Oct 1915 to Cowdrey Export Co., New York City.
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Old February 13, 2014, 07:22 PM   #5453
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S&W Mod 1905 4th chg ser # 349175. What year?
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Old February 13, 2014, 09:23 PM   #5454
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I've got another to date.

.22 lr
6"
Square
6 shot
Adjustable
K401XXX
17
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Old February 13, 2014, 11:08 PM   #5455
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Thanks, Radagast.
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Old February 14, 2014, 04:11 AM   #5456
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Thanks!

rswartsell:
1920.
Heat treatment of cylinders began at serial number 316648, September 1919. serial number 358xxx shipped December 1920, so somewhere in between those dates.

birdshooter:
Your Model 17 K22 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1960.
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Old February 14, 2014, 02:27 PM   #5457
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s&w revolver

I have a s&w revolver 38 special with a 4 inch barrel and serial# 648176

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Old February 14, 2014, 06:52 PM   #5458
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Thanks, as usual Radagast-you da man!
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Old February 14, 2014, 11:05 PM   #5459
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Assuming six shot, fixed sights, you have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured in 1934.
The US Coast guard took delivery of 25 revolvers in the serial range 646994 to 648882 19th November 1934.
It may not have shipped that year as the Great Depression saw S&W manufacturing and stockpiling frames to prevent laying off their workforce. Note the 25 guns mentioned above are spread over 1888 serial numbers - frames were not necessarily used consecutively.

Your gun has a heat treated cylinder and should be safe with any standard pressure or PlusP marked ammo. Avoid any ammunition marked +P+ as there is no industry standard for this and it could range from 20% over pressure to near .357 magnum pressures.
As it is an old gun, if it came with any ammo marked .38 High Speed, avoid that as well as it was the predecessor to the .357 magnum and intended to be used in large .44 framed size guns.
Your gun lacks the positive internal hammer block introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun during WWII. I would consider it prudent to treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the hammer down on an empty chamber. It does have a non positive hammer block, but on at least one occasion it failed, hence my caution.
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Old February 14, 2014, 11:09 PM   #5460
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Thats awesome. thank you very much.
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Old February 15, 2014, 12:10 AM   #5461
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Thanks for the info Radagast!
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Old February 16, 2014, 09:47 AM   #5462
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Looking at this on an auction site, always wanted a nice Model 27, but I would love some info before I pull the trigger (ha!)

a. .357 Mag
b. 5 inch
c. Square butt
d. 6-shooter
e. Adjustable, patridge?
f. S255265
g. 27-2

Thanks for any help guys.
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Old February 16, 2014, 09:56 AM   #5463
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1965 for that one. The Patridge front sight has a vertical or undercut rear face. They were the norm on the 6.5 inch barrels at one point. Most pics of 5 inch barrels that I have seen are with the ramped front sight.

FWIW, I have a 1968 Model 28 that I'll probably be buried with. I would hold great expectations for a 5 inch Model 27 from that era, and to own one is on my bucket list.
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Old February 16, 2014, 10:24 AM   #5464
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And a pair I already own...

a. .357 Mag
b. 4 inch
c. Square butt
d. 6 shooter
e. fixed
f. AWL98XX
g. 65-3

a. .22LR
b. 6 inch
c. Square butt
d. 6-shooter
e. adjustable
f. 16K63XX
g. 17-2
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Old February 16, 2014, 10:25 AM   #5465
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Thanks Radagast! I'm checking the pictures now, it's not a Patridge but ramped. That's what I get for going from memory.

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Old February 16, 2014, 10:53 AM   #5466
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OldBrownDog:
Your Model 17-2 K22 Masterpiece was manufactured in 1977.
Your Model 65-3 .357 Magnum Military & Police Heavy Barrel Stainless was manufactured in 1987.
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Old February 16, 2014, 06:35 PM   #5467
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Thanks again Radagast. On your recommendation, I'm going for the 5" M27-2. It's a bucket-list gun for me too and I'm hoping I like it enough to want to be buried with it (I hope I bequeath it to a deserving descendant instead, though).
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Old February 16, 2014, 09:43 PM   #5468
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I have a 38 special 4" barrel 6 shot ser# 458021 with a star after the 1. any information please
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Old February 16, 2014, 10:32 PM   #5469
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elogan:
The star indicates it went back to the factory for work at some point, new barrel, re-finish, action job, something requiring a return.
The serial number IDs your gun as a .38 Miltary & Police Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured between 1920 (serial number 358000) & 1927 (serial number 500000).
If stamped Made In USA then 1922 or later, if not, 1922 or earlier.

Basically your gun is a predecessor to the modern Model 10 revolver, but most parts will not interchange as there has been a dozen design changes in the last 90 years. It has a heat treated cylinder, so should be safe with any modern standard velocity or PlusP ammunition. Avoid anything marked +P+ or any old pre-1960s ammunition marked High Speed as these exceed industry pressure standards.
It has a non positive internal hammer block that failed at least once when a gun was dropped, with fatal consequences, leading to the design of the current positive hammer block in 1944. I would suggest caution and treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
The frame is the medium 'K frame' and probably a square butt. Modern aftermarket grips should fit.
if you ever need spare parts then www.gunpartscorp.com is the 'wrecking yard' for old guns.
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Old February 16, 2014, 10:47 PM   #5470
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Thanks a lot for the info the pistol is actually like new like you say it probably was sent in for repair or restoration I have had it for about 15 years and never knew much about it until now,so thanks again
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Old February 17, 2014, 10:11 AM   #5471
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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

My new-to-me prize:
a) .357
b) 4"
c) square
d) 6-shot
e) adjustable sights
f) 9K13xxx
g) Model 66 (no dash)
Thanks in advance!
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Old February 18, 2014, 02:17 AM   #5472
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A) 38 special
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Old February 18, 2014, 02:26 AM   #5473
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A)38SPC B)2INCH c)ROUND BUTT D)5 SHOT E)FIXED SGTS F) AHF005X G)MOD 60 . THANK YOU.
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Old February 18, 2014, 03:15 AM   #5474
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Your Model 60 Chiefs Special Stainless was manufactured in 1984.

bullsear:
Your Model 66 Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1976.
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Old February 18, 2014, 03:48 AM   #5475
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This was my grandfathers gun that he carried as a backup on the police department. I have never been told its age.

Chiefs Special
a) 38 Special
b) 1 3/4 in
c) Square
d) 5
e) Fixed
f) 576XXX
g) Mod 36 and 43765

I would like more info for this gun such as is it +P safe or not. Thanks for the help!
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