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Old June 18, 2014, 07:12 AM   #5651
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JEW-III.
If the gun is a top break, with exposed hammer, then it is a .38 Double Action 2nd Model, manufactured between 1880 & 1884. This is a black powder only proposition and should be treated as a 4 shooter, with the chamber under the hammer left empty.

If the gun is a top break with enclosed hammer, then it is a .38 Safety Hammerless 3rd Model manufactured between 1890 & 1894. This is also a black powder model, but should be safe to carry with all chambers loaded.

If the gun has a swing out cylinder and 5 chambers, then it is a .38 Regulation Police (4 inch barrel) or .38/32 Terrier (two inch barrel). These are post war guns, if there is no model number stamped under the cylinder yoke then they fall in the period 1948-1957.
If it has a leaf mainspring (there will be a tension screw in the front strap of the grip) then 1948-1953.
If a coil mainspring (no tension screw) then 1953-1957.
If there is a screw holding the side plate in front of the hammer, then 1955 or earlier.
If no screw, then 1955-1957.
With the above you can narrow its age down to within a couple of years. Postwar guns have a positive hammer block safety and can be carried fully loaded. They are suitable for use with modern ammunition.
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Old June 21, 2014, 08:20 PM   #5652
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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Hello! Any idea of approximate date of manufacture of a SW Model 19-5 .357 magnum 6-round revolver, number 201Kxxx? 1982? Thanks!

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Old June 22, 2014, 03:48 AM   #5653
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Your Model 19-5 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1982.
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Old June 22, 2014, 10:24 AM   #5654
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Thank you very much, Radagast!

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Old June 22, 2014, 09:45 PM   #5655
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Pistol from family estate.

.357 Mag.
4" bbl.
Round
6 shots
Fixed front...adj. rear.
S&W 19-3
7K299XX

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Old June 23, 2014, 06:15 AM   #5656
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Your Model 19-3 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1978 or 1979, with 1978 the more probable date.
It is a K frame, square butt gun, aftermarket grips are readily available.
The Model 19 was noted for cracking the forcing cone with 125 grain loads, I suggest you read this article and govern your choice of ammo accordingly:
http://www.gunblast.com/Butch_MagnumLoads.htm

The above said, the Model 19 is a classic self defense pistol and a favorite with many revolver shooters. Stronger guns are available, but they lack its balance and feel.
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Old June 24, 2014, 11:23 AM   #5657
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hello
would love some info on this one..

.32 H.E. 5 screw, with strain screw, Ser.# 217066. 4 inch barrel, has some strange grips.

Grips have a target with bullet holes in a circle at the top, and extend below the butt, where it has a second screw. I was told these could be target grips, but they may not be original to the pistol.

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Old June 24, 2014, 05:41 PM   #5658
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The factory target grips did extend past the butt, allowing a full hand hold. From your description I think yours are aftermarket or customized.
Serial number 217066 makes your gun a .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1903 5th Change manufactured between 1910 & 1917 in the serial range 102501 to 263000. It predates heat treatment of cylinders, so don't try hot rodding handloads in it. Factory standard pressure ammunition should be fine.
It also predates the positive internal hammer block introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun in 1944. I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
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Old June 25, 2014, 04:29 PM   #5659
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looking to buy this one for a good price. k-frame, 357 cal, model 13-2, 4 inch bbl, and serial number 729xx. thanks for you help. also has presentation grips.
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Old June 25, 2014, 05:17 PM   #5660
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The number you have quoted is not the serial number. The serial number will have a K in it, falling into the serial range 10K001 to 269K999. You are probably quoting an assembly number, used to track parts in the factory, but not recorded after the gun is assembled.
You may need to remove the grips to see the serial number. Get back to me with the number and I'll give you the year.
The 13-2 .357 magnum Military & Police Heavy barrel was produced between 1977 & 1982.
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Old June 26, 2014, 08:13 AM   #5661
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Many thanks, Radagast. just what I needed to know.......
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Old June 26, 2014, 04:29 PM   #5662
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thanks for the info. it seems as if i have a problem. I removed the grips and found the serial number on the bottom of the grip frame. it doesn't have a k in the number. the number is 9d77xx. i hope this helps.
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Old June 26, 2014, 04:34 PM   #5663
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You don't have a problem.

Only the Target /adjustable sighted guns had a K in the serial number

Your fixed sight gun was produced in 1982.

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Old June 26, 2014, 04:41 PM   #5664
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rcmodel, thank you for the info. guess i'll buy it.
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Old June 27, 2014, 05:29 AM   #5665
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elindio: rcmodel is correct. I had a brain fade when looking up the serial range.
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Old June 27, 2014, 09:04 AM   #5666
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12 weeks since I sent in the request to S&W for a letter. 10 weeks since they cashed my check.

Still no letter......
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Old June 28, 2014, 04:15 AM   #5667
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T'was running around 4 months, back in March, per this thread:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ant...wait-time.html
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Old June 28, 2014, 09:44 AM   #5668
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Good info. Thanks man.
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Old June 29, 2014, 12:07 AM   #5669
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Hello guys,

My stepdad has this S&W revolver that I'd like to get some information on.





Sorry, my resizer isn't cooperating.

The barrel is marked 38 S&W Ctg. It's funny because that's the second pistol I've seen in this old caliber this week.

His local gun store couldn't identify it, they said that these small frame revolvers were never made in this caliber.

Can anyone identify the model and date range? Serial number on bottom of butt is 77206.

Thank you,
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Old June 29, 2014, 12:56 AM   #5670
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Your stepdad's gun is a .38/32 Terrier Postwar.
These are built on the small .32 caliber sized I frame & improved I frame. the gun in question lacks the screw in the front strap, so it is a coil mainspring improved I frame. It still has the upper sideplate screw, so it is a 4 screw model. That dates it to between 1953 & 1955.

The slightly larger J frame .38 Special Chiefs Special was introduced in 1950 and effectively replaced the Terrier which became an obscure model.
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Old June 29, 2014, 08:28 AM   #5671
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So it is an original model, thank you Radagast.
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Old June 29, 2014, 08:52 AM   #5672
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The finish is not original. Poor fitment of the side plate and the nickel hammer and trigger indicate an aftermarket refinish sometime in the past.
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Old July 5, 2014, 03:15 AM   #5673
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a) 38 Special
b) 4"
c) square butt
d) 6 shot
e) fixed, half round front sight
f) S734xx
g) pre-model numbers

I know it is a long action 38/44 Heavy Duty. I believe it was made between 1946 to somewhere in the early 50's. I was wondering more precisely what year it was made. I also was wondering if this (post war, long action) is what is referred to as 38/44 transitional models.

My grandfather, who is deceased, carried it for 30+ years as a police officer. I am not sure, but I believe he had it nickeled after buying it. The only thing that is blued is the extractor star, which is the same as a 70's factory nickeled 3 1/2" model 27 I used to own. The hammer and trigger are NOT case hardened; they are nickeled as well. Based of the nickeled hammer and trigger, it probably was nickeled after it left the factory, right?

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Old July 5, 2014, 06:31 AM   #5674
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Your Grandfathers' .38/44 Heavy Duty Postwar was manufactured in 1949-1950, serial range for those years was S72500 to S74999.
It has been refinished, the hammer and trigger are the give away. A factory refinish would have left these color case hardened.
it is a transitional model, in so far as it should have the post 1944 hammer block, but still uses the long action, the short action was transitioned in from 1948.
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Old July 6, 2014, 06:31 PM   #5675
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Need model ID help.

I am new here and stumbled upon it using a search engine for finding model information from serial numbers. I have a 4" barrel 4 screw side plate. Grooved rear sight, and molded in the barrel half moon front sight. I believe to be a 38 special cal. but it seems the "3" is missing on the barrel. the numbers on the but and under the extractor rod are identical--349491. Looks to be blued. Looks like a K frame square grip.
Thanks in advance.

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