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Old February 25, 2009, 08:43 AM   #576
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Old February 25, 2009, 08:57 AM   #577
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I just picked up a 617 yesterday, and was curious as it it's age.

a) cal = .22
b) bbl length = 6"
c) round grips shape
d) 10 shots
e) iron sights.
f) serial number = CHU66xx
g) Model number = 617-6

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Old February 25, 2009, 09:07 AM   #578
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Mr Packard: your gun is built on the K-frame, which is Smith & Wessons medium frame that has been around since the 1899. This is the basic design that the .38 Special cartridge was originally chambered in.
Originally produced as a fixed sight gun, the Military & Police, which with some changes is still produced today, It was later produced as a target gun with a six inch barrel and adjustable sights, this was the Target Masterpiece, later known as the model 14.
In 1949 a four inch barreled version with the adjustable rear sight of the Target Masterpiece and a ramped front (Baughman Quick Draw) sight was introduced, known as the combat Masterpiece. Produced from 1949 to 1999, it was a popular service revolver during it's time, I've found it an easier pointing gun than the heavy barreled .357 magnum variants such as the later Combat Magnum which was another evolution of the K frame.
The Combat Masterpiece still lives on in the model 67, a stainless steel .38 special with adjustable sights.

in 1957 model numbers were introduced and the Combat Masterpiece became the model 15. the -3 refers to the third engineering change as S&W improved/tinkered/cut costs (pick your choice).

Fun fact: the model 15-3 was an issue sidearm of the USAF with 5000 delivered in 1968.

In summary you have a fine old revolver that has a long heritage and only lost favor due to fads for stainless steel, magnum calibers and then high capacity semi auto pistols. Maintained and shot with the recommended ammo it should outlast you.
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Old February 25, 2009, 09:10 AM   #579
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Old February 25, 2009, 09:11 AM   #580
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Old February 25, 2009, 02:59 PM   #581
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Old February 26, 2009, 01:43 AM   #582
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Hi. I'm new to the forums. My Grandmother gave me my Grandfather's Smith and Wesson .38 Special. She told me he was the origional owner. My interest is knowing when it was manufactured (approx.). I don't care about it's $ value, I plan to pass it to my son one day. He is 9 y/o, and we've already had the 1st-5th ammendment talk and their relationship to each other. I'd just like to be able to tell him how old it is.
a.) .38 special
b.) 6"
c.) square (flat on bottom?)
d.) 6
e.) fixed blade front, adjustable rear
f.) K 90047 (about 1/2" between letter and number
g.)
Thank you for any assistance you are able to provide.
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Old February 26, 2009, 02:48 AM   #583
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That should be a S&W "K-38 Masterpiece" - 6" target variant of the classic Military & Police. That number is from 1950.
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Old February 26, 2009, 05:24 PM   #584
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Thank you. That was fast. My son will be very impressed that it is nearly 60 years-old.

When I got it in 1995, it was loaded with the bullets he'd baught when he (my grandfather) had purchased it, wrapped in bubble wrap, rolled cardboard taped in front of the trigger, in a shoebox. the packing job was a nightmare waiting to happen. The oil was so gummy it took me 15 minutes of fearful fiddling to release the cylinder and empty the cartridges. My grandmother said my grandfather had never fired it. It has a few minor blemishes on the barrel. I cleaned it thoroughly, got new ammo, and discovered that it is very accurate.

Again, thank you for the fast reply.
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Old February 26, 2009, 06:35 PM   #585
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model 65-2 4" square butt, starts with 7D...i love this gun ! Could it be late
1970s ?
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Old February 27, 2009, 02:18 AM   #586
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Could it be late
1970s ?
Nope, but 1981 fits.
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Old February 27, 2009, 11:39 PM   #587
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I was told that this one was a older model but was interested in a year.


a) cal = 38 S&W special
b) bbl length = 4"
c) round butt
d) 6 shot
e) fixed
f) serial number = c41025x
g) Model number = 10 (believe to be a -5 but it isn't marked on the gun anyware that I can see)

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Old February 28, 2009, 12:11 AM   #588
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22lr: The serial number range c402924 to c429740 was used 1957-1959. The 10-1 was introduced in 1959 with a heavy barrel and the 10-2 was introduced in 1961.

So your gun is a model 10 no dash.
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Old February 28, 2009, 12:14 AM   #589
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22lr - If it says "10"and nothing else then it is a 10 (no dash). A -5 would be much later than a C410xxx. That number dates to 1958 +/- a few months from the SCSW.
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Old February 28, 2009, 12:20 AM   #590
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Ok it doesn't even say model 10 anywhere I was just told it was a 10-5 (hence the not sure on the -5 part). Not sure if that matters but many thanks, that is a lot older than I had thought.
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Old February 28, 2009, 05:22 AM   #591
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22lr: Model numbers were introduced in 1957, with the model number stamped in the frame under the crane, so it's likely your gun would be a frame made in 1957 or a little earlier and assembled in 1957.

FWIW S&W recommend against shooting plus P ammo in guns made before 1958.
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Old February 28, 2009, 10:15 AM   #592
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Old model 36, 3" square butt, flat latch, diamond grips #433xxx. We gave this gun to our dad for protection. We put on pachmayr compac grips, and added two safari comp 1 speedloaders to complete the package. Speer golddot shortbarrel ammo. Oro, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

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Old February 28, 2009, 06:35 PM   #593
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joe_security: Serial number range 295,000 to 786,544 was used between 1962 & 1969. The flat latch was deleted in 1966, so between 1962 & 1966 is as close as I can give.
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Old February 28, 2009, 09:46 PM   #594
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Pls advise dob for the following
38 spec
1 7/8
round
5 rnds
non adj
B3157xx
S&W model 60

Thank you for your time
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:06 AM   #595
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phulklip: The Correct letter prefix for the model 60 was R, not B.

If your guns serial number is R3157xx it was made in 1982.
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Old March 1, 2009, 12:01 PM   #596
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Thank you very much Radagast

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Old March 1, 2009, 12:10 PM   #597
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I just found a "Smolt" and curious to age of the Mod 19 frame.

a) caliber 357
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) 6 inch Python
c) grips shape (round or square) square
d) number of shots/cylinder bores 6
e) type of sights. adjustable
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip 52K6XXX
g) Model number if it is under the crane. 19-4

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Old March 2, 2009, 05:40 AM   #598
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The year of our first Iranian embarrassment, 1979. Iranian embarrassments only increased from then, but good K frame 357s were fewer and fewer (and now, none). But as to you and that "Smolt", Enjoy!

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Old March 2, 2009, 10:19 AM   #599
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I know my Pic sucks.
a) .38 S&W (on the barrel it says 38 S&W. CTG
b) 1.75 - 2" (depends on how you measure)
c) round (i think, i dont know anything about revolvers)
d) 5 shots
e) iron sights (the front is raised and the back is cut in)
f) 78597 (from face of cylinder and butt of grip)
g) Under the barrel and can only see with the cylinder open it looks like there is an X or possibly a V(its pretty worn and it looks a little scratched) but it looks like this

X
76774

9

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IMGP0336.jpg

IMGP0337.jpg
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Old March 2, 2009, 10:22 AM   #600
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I know my Pic sucks.
a) .38 S&W (on the barrel it says 38 S&W. CTG
b) 1.75 - 2" (depends on how you measure)
c) round (i think, i dont know anything about revolvers)
d) 5 shots
e) iron sights (the front is raised and the back is cut in)
f) 78597 (from face of cylinder and butt of grip)
g) Under the barrel and can only see with the cylinder open it looks like there is an X or possibly a V(its pretty worn and it looks a little scratched) but it looks like this
(The X is just above and to the left of the 7 and the 9 is under the second 7
X
76774

9

Attachment 93767

Attachment 93768

Attachment 93769
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