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Old June 28, 2008, 11:19 AM   #76
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Thanks, Shade00

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Walter: Your Model 36 appears to date to 1976.
Thanks for your trouble, Shade00. I do appreciate it.

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Old June 28, 2008, 04:13 PM   #77
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Here's two more if you don't mind.....

S&W #1
a. .38
b. 6"
c. square
d. 6
e. fixed
f. S 8199**
g. M&P pre-10

S&W #2
a. .38
b. 3"
c. round
d. 6
e.fixed
f. BRC96**
g. 64-5

TIA......
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Old June 29, 2008, 02:49 AM   #78
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chee-to, sorry for not getting back to you earlier. Was out of town for the past two days. #1 was likely made either in 1945 or 1946, since the postware M&P production began at S811338 in 1945. #2 I can't be sure on; the 64-5 was produced between 1988 and 1998, with 64-6 production beginning in 1998, but the closest I can come on approximate year is 1994. Early 1994 saw serial #s beginning with BDY, with serials beginning with BRF later in the year. Maybe someone else can be of more help on that one.
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Old June 29, 2008, 10:41 AM   #79
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Old Fluff and Brian, thanks a ton for the info!
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Old June 29, 2008, 10:50 AM   #80
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Model 36

I just picked this up yesterday (only factory test-fired). I needed something (smaller) for summer time CCW:

a.) .38 special
b.) 1 7/8"
c.) Round grip frame (blue)
d.) 5
e.) Fixed sights
f.) cad8996
g.) 36-7

I'm new to S&W's (being mostly a Colt revolver person), but this little gun fits really nice, and is in perfect shape. Can anyone recommend an effective personal defense round for it? Not necessarily +P - the gun is not marked for +P.

Thanks,
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Old June 29, 2008, 12:48 PM   #81
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I have two. The following info is provided:

Gun #1

a) .357 Magnum
b) 4"
c)Square
d) 6 shot
e) Fixed front, Adjustable rear
f) 9K67589
g) 19-3


Gun #2

a) .357 Magnum
b) 2 1/2"
c) Round
d) 6 shot
e) Fixed front, Adjustable rear
f) BRW1094
g) 66-4

Thank You
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Old June 29, 2008, 02:08 PM   #82
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GeezerwithGuns: The Standard Catalog's best guess at your gun's birth date is somewhere between 1994 and 1996. Someone else may be able to be more specific. As far as self defense ammo, look around the revolver forum for information on ammunition built for snub-nose guns. There is a lot of good stuff.

hddeluxe: Looks like 1976 for the 19-3, and my best guess on the 66-4 is going to be 1994-1995.
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Old June 29, 2008, 06:59 PM   #83
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a) caliber - .357
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle) 2.25
c) grips shape (round or square) Round
d) number of shots/cylinder bores 6
e) type of sights. Adjustable, orange front sight
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip CEY3081 (Listed under cylinder on left side of gun)
g) Model number if it is under the crane. 66-5

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Old June 29, 2008, 07:27 PM   #84
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TFin04, I believe your revolver was born in late 2000, maybe early 2001.
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Old June 29, 2008, 07:38 PM   #85
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Thanks ALL! See pics. This was my grandfathers gun that appears to have been used infrequently. I'm pretty sure I identified it from your FAQ (1961-1974 J Frame), but I don't see any mention of the serial number beginning with R. Will this only take the .38/145, or will .38/200 work as well?

a) caliber - .38 S&W
b) lenght: 2"
c) grips shape: Checkered Round
d) number: 5
e) type of sights. fixed
f) serial number: R 585XX
g) Model number: 32-1
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Old June 29, 2008, 08:40 PM   #86
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Can't say for sure what the difference is between the cartridges. Perhaps someone else can elaborate on that. However, I have a 32-1 Terrier and have used Magtech and I believe Winchester (or maybe Remington) .38 S&W.

Edit: Forgot to answer your question. The R serial prefix began in 1969. It was serialed concurrently with the Model 60. R 585xx puts it sometime between 1970 and 1973, probably right in the middle.
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Old June 29, 2008, 09:00 PM   #87
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The .38-200 was a British service cartridge during World War Two, and to some extent, Korea. While it originated with a 200 grain lead bullet, that was soon changed to a 178 grain jacketed one. It used a case and load that was identical to a .38 S&W, which is usually found with a (give or take) 146 grain lead bullet.

Any of the above can be safely fired in a Smith & Wesson model 32, but itís unlikely that the British ammunition in any quantity will be found in the United States outside of cartridge collections.
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Old June 30, 2008, 01:05 PM   #88
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Thanks all. Being a J frame, can I shoot .38 special?
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Old June 30, 2008, 01:08 PM   #89
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Being a J-frame, it was designed for .32 caliber ammunition. Your model/variant is for .38 S&W, and that is the ammo you want to shoot. .38 Spcl. won't even fit in the chamber unless they have been modified (and it would still be a bad idea).

The .38 S&W and .38 Special are two different calibers.
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Old June 30, 2008, 02:15 PM   #90
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kamerer is right. While the J frame can handle .38 special, the little Terrier's cylinder will NOT fit the .38 special cartridge.
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Old June 30, 2008, 02:40 PM   #91
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Some confusion here...

The J-frame was designed to use the .38 Special cartridge, but adapted to use a number of other, including but not limited to: .22 RF, .22WRM, .32 S& W Long, .38 S&W, amd later, .357 Magnum.

The I-frame which preceeded the J-frame was generally the same, but shorter in length. It was originally designed around the .32 S&W Long, but adapted to use .22RF, and .38 S&W.
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Old June 30, 2008, 07:45 PM   #92
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Thanks Shade00, So much good info, and nice people here.......
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Old June 30, 2008, 09:37 PM   #93
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Of course. Stick around for a while.
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Old July 1, 2008, 01:47 AM   #94
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Model 13-3

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a) caliber
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle)
c) grips shape (round or square)
d) number of shots/cylinder bores
e) type of sights.
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip
g) Model number if it is under the crane.

a) .357 magnum
b) 4"
c) square
d) 6 rnds
e) fixed
f) AUA94XX
g) 13-3

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Old July 2, 2008, 09:31 PM   #95
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If you don't mind...A Highway Patrolman.


a)357 mag
b)4"
c)square (target)
d)6
e)front-fixed, rear-adjustable
f)N7971XX
g)Mod 28-2
under model number on cylinder side of yoke it reads
x326j
F16
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Old July 2, 2008, 10:59 PM   #96
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a 13-3, AUA is going to about 1987 - I may be off a year either way.

The Patrolman 797,xxx bad boy is 1980, pretty certainly.
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Old July 3, 2008, 05:41 PM   #97
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a. 357
b. 4"
c. square butt
d. 6
e. adjustable
f. AEL74xx
g. 586

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Old July 3, 2008, 06:09 PM   #98
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Merledog: I believe your revolver was born in the middle of 1984.
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Old July 3, 2008, 06:17 PM   #99
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Shade00 thanks, I figured it might be earlier since it lacks a dash.
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Old July 3, 2008, 06:22 PM   #100
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Neat thread. I don't have a standard catalog right now, and I do have a model 36 I'd like a manufacture date for. Here goes.

a: .38 spcl
b: 2" (as specified on original box and papers)
c: round butt
d: 5 round
e: fixed sights
f: J1411xx
g: Mod 36

To no overload the thread with pics, I do have a "for trade" thread for this gun. Pics, if needed, can be seen here http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=374470
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