Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers - Page 47

bangkok · August 13, 2009, 04:31 PM

Thank you again sir!

From what I read, 1982 was when S&W quit the p&r on their guns although at this same time the quality of their revolvers were on there way back up. The revolver I bought seems to be nicely made with great lock up and the original box is branded Bangor Punta, don't know if the BP on the box is a good thing or a bad thing?

scflor · August 14, 2009, 01:37 PM

cal 32 long
2in b
square grip
6 shot
fix sight
mod 31-1
ser H144369

Radagast · August 14, 2009, 07:12 PM

scflor: 1981. The Model 31-1 Regulation Police was introduced in 1961, with the change over to the J frame from the slightly smaller I frame. The Regulation Police was introduced in 1917, but can trace it's roots back tot he original .32 Hand Ejector from 1896. The Model 31 was discontinued in 1991.

oilburner350 · August 15, 2009, 07:44 PM

Could you tell me the approx. date of my two Smiths?

First one is a 629-5 8 3/8 Classic
serial # CER30xx

The second one is a 3" 37 Airweight round butt non-pinned
The serial number in the crane is 638xx
The number on the butt is AAS02xx

Thanks

Radagast · August 15, 2009, 08:56 PM

oilburner350: CER30XX falls between October 2000 (CEFxxxx) & July 2001 (CEVxxxx).

AAS02xx falls between October 1982 (AAFxxxx) & December 1982 (ABLxxxx).

oilburner350 · August 15, 2009, 09:17 PM

Thank you for the fast response!!

THE DARK KNIGHT · August 18, 2009, 12:46 AM

S&W 686 4" barrel 6 shot, DBF21XX, how old is it? Is it a "pre-lock" model?

trex1310 · August 18, 2009, 04:27 PM

S&W 686 4" barrel 6 shot, DBF21XX, how old is it? Is it a "pre-lock" model?

I think you should recheck the serial#. M66 #'s begin with a K.

trex1310 · August 18, 2009, 04:36 PM

S&W 686 4" barrel 6 shot, DBF21XX, how old is it? Is it a "pre-lock" model?

Sorry, I'm the one that needs to re-read the post.

higene · August 19, 2009, 12:05 AM

Gun 1

a .22
b. 6
c. sq
d. 6
e. 80k87xx
f. adj
g. 17-4

Gun 2

a. 44 Spcl
b. 6
c. sq
d. 6
e. n3617 70
f. adj
g. 28-2

Radagast · August 19, 2009, 12:51 AM

The Dark Knight:
DBF21xx is from after the serial number ranges cut off in the Standard Catalog of S&W at Oct. 2004 with CTAxxxx, I would guess it as being from 2006 or later.
The S&W lock was introduced in 2001 with the 686-6. If you are after a pre-lock gun you need a 686-5 ( internal firing pin) or an early -1 to -4 (hammer mounted firing pin.)

higene:
Gun one, Model 17-4 K22 Target Masterpiece was manufactured in 1980.

Gun two, Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman was manufactured in 1975 to 1976. It was originally a .357 Magnum and has been altered by a gunsmith by fitting a new barrel and cylinder to chamber .44 Special.

Ateam-3 · August 19, 2009, 02:04 PM

Model 10-8
38 spl
4"barrel
6 shot
fixed sights
square butt
K frame

Serial No. ADU 14xx

If you can help with the approx. DOB of this revolver, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
T

Radagast · August 19, 2009, 07:04 PM

Ateam-3: Between January (ADTxxxx) & November (AEVxxxx) 1984.

bangkok · August 20, 2009, 12:22 AM

Opps, I did it again! Another S&W, this time it is a model 36 Snubbie, with I believe a slim round butt. I think that the s/n might be missing the prefix letters? S/N is 82556. Does that sound right, because that is the serial number that is being DROS for me here in California.

Radagast · August 20, 2009, 08:55 AM

bangkok:
82556 Makes it a 1956 or 1957 gun. If the model number is stamped inside the crane then it is a 1957 gun, as that is the year that model numbers were introduced. Before that it was simply the Chiefs Special. If no model number then it is a 1956 gun.

It should have a flat rather than concave cylinder latch. The original grips would be checkered walnut with an uncheckered diamond around the grip screws and a S&W medallion inset. If the grips curve in at the bottom of the frame then it is a round butt.

The Chiefs Special was introduced in 1950.

bangkok · August 20, 2009, 08:20 PM

Thanks again Radagast!

I believe that the model number was inside the crane, mint checkered grips with uncheckered diamond, round butt, near mint blueing, deep rifleing and shiney bore and the box was so mint and pristine, you would swear it just came out of the wherehouse (only thing missing were the papers)! I paid almost nothing for it! It will go nice with my mint 1962 Colt Detective Special!

Flamingtaco · August 22, 2009, 07:32 AM

a) 38 SPL
b) 4"
c) Square
d) 6
e) Front is fixed. Rear? Not sure. Screws on both side of the mount, so I would think so, but I don't have a driver clean enough to not muck the screws, so I haven't checked it.
f) 3K521xx
g) 15-3

Thanks!

mnrivrat · August 22, 2009, 12:51 PM

Your K-Frame Model 15-3 would have been made I believe in 1972 . The rear sight is adjustable .

(just a quick fill in until the experts come)

shooter-55 · August 22, 2009, 01:02 PM

Just traded for this yesterday. Interesting SN though:

a. .357 Mag
b. 2 1/2"
c. Round Butt
d. 6 shot
e. adjustable rear (front fixed w/ insert orange)
f. 99K01xx
g. 66-1

Thanks for the input

Radagast · August 22, 2009, 08:56 PM

shooter-55: 1981. This was the last year that pinned barrels & recessed cylinders were available, with both being deleted in 1982.

echase1 · August 23, 2009, 01:44 AM

Model 10-8
38 spl
4"barrel
6 shot
fixed sights
square butt
K frame

Serial No. AFL 44xx

Any help with the DOB of this revolver would be appreciated.

Radagast · August 23, 2009, 05:22 AM

echase1: Between November 1984 & January 1985.

shooter-55 · August 23, 2009, 01:55 PM

Thanks Radagast. I appreciate the info. It is a keeper.

jibbs · August 23, 2009, 03:40 PM

Have a 640-1 J-Frame in need of ID

a) 357
b) 2"
c) round butt
d) 5 shot
e) pinned sight
f) CAH6XXX
g) 640-1

any help would be greatly appreciated, it is a pre-lock if that helps.

Racinbob · August 23, 2009, 04:58 PM

I picked up a 60-4 a while back. BNE51xx. Per the catalog, it's a limited run in 1990 with 3" full underlug and adjustable sights. But the BNE prefix isn't even in the catalog. Reason? Also, I'd like to get a new yoke screw but this one has a spring loaded 'plunger' on the tip. Nothing like my other Smiths. Anyone know where I can get one?

August 14, 2009, 01:37 PM	#1152
scflor Member Join Date: August 14, 2009 Posts: 3	can anybody give a approx. age and value for a smith and wesson model 31-1 cal 32 lon cal 32 long 2in b square grip 6 shot fix sight mod 31-1 ser H144369 Last edited by scflor; August 14, 2009 at 02:37 PM. Reason: think in wrong post

August 14, 2009, 07:12 PM	#1153
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	scflor: 1981. The Model 31-1 Regulation Police was introduced in 1961, with the change over to the J frame from the slightly smaller I frame. The Regulation Police was introduced in 1917, but can trace it's roots back tot he original .32 Hand Ejector from 1896. The Model 31 was discontinued in 1991. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 15, 2009, 07:44 PM	#1154
oilburner350 Member Join Date: December 26, 2007 Posts: 16	Could you tell me the approx. date of my two Smiths? First one is a 629-5 8 3/8 Classic serial # CER30xx The second one is a 3" 37 Airweight round butt non-pinned The serial number in the crane is 638xx The number on the butt is AAS02xx Thanks Last edited by oilburner350; August 15, 2009 at 08:14 PM. Reason: spelling

August 15, 2009, 08:56 PM	#1155
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	oilburner350: CER30XX falls between October 2000 (CEFxxxx) & July 2001 (CEVxxxx). AAS02xx falls between October 1982 (AAFxxxx) & December 1982 (ABLxxxx). __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 19, 2009, 12:05 AM	#1160
higene Member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Location: Sunny Yacolt Washington Posts: 423	S&W s Gun 1 a .22 b. 6 c. sq d. 6 e. 80k87xx f. adj g. 17-4 Gun 2 a. 44 Spcl b. 6 c. sq d. 6 e. n3617 70 f. adj g. 28-2

August 13, 2009, 04:31 PM	#1151
bangkok Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Posts: 86	Thank you again sir! From what I read, 1982 was when S&W quit the p&r on their guns although at this same time the quality of their revolvers were on there way back up. The revolver I bought seems to be nicely made with great lock up and the original box is branded Bangor Punta, don't know if the BP on the box is a good thing or a bad thing?

August 15, 2009, 09:17 PM	#1156
oilburner350 Member Join Date: December 26, 2007 Posts: 16	Thank you for the fast response!!

August 18, 2009, 12:46 AM	#1157
THE DARK KNIGHT Member Join Date: July 3, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,551	S&W 686 4" barrel 6 shot, DBF21XX, how old is it? Is it a "pre-lock" model?

August 18, 2009, 04:27 PM	#1158
trex1310 Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 490	S&W 686 4" barrel 6 shot, DBF21XX, how old is it? Is it a "pre-lock" model? I think you should recheck the serial#. M66 #'s begin with a K.

August 18, 2009, 04:36 PM	#1159
trex1310 Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 490	S&W 686 4" barrel 6 shot, DBF21XX, how old is it? Is it a "pre-lock" model? Sorry, I'm the one that needs to re-read the post.

August 19, 2009, 12:51 AM	#1161
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	The Dark Knight: DBF21xx is from after the serial number ranges cut off in the Standard Catalog of S&W at Oct. 2004 with CTAxxxx, I would guess it as being from 2006 or later. The S&W lock was introduced in 2001 with the 686-6. If you are after a pre-lock gun you need a 686-5 ( internal firing pin) or an early -1 to -4 (hammer mounted firing pin.) higene: Gun one, Model 17-4 K22 Target Masterpiece was manufactured in 1980. Gun two, Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman was manufactured in 1975 to 1976. It was originally a .357 Magnum and has been altered by a gunsmith by fitting a new barrel and cylinder to chamber .44 Special. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 19, 2009, 02:04 PM	#1162
Ateam-3 Member Join Date: January 13, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 115	Model 10-8 38 spl 4"barrel 6 shot fixed sights square butt K frame Serial No. ADU 14xx If you can help with the approx. DOB of this revolver, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, T

August 19, 2009, 07:04 PM	#1163
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	Ateam-3: Between January (ADTxxxx) & November (AEVxxxx) 1984. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 20, 2009, 12:22 AM	#1164
bangkok Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Posts: 86	Opps, I did it again! Another S&W, this time it is a model 36 Snubbie, with I believe a slim round butt. I think that the s/n might be missing the prefix letters? S/N is 82556. Does that sound right, because that is the serial number that is being DROS for me here in California.

August 20, 2009, 08:55 AM	#1165
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	bangkok: 82556 Makes it a 1956 or 1957 gun. If the model number is stamped inside the crane then it is a 1957 gun, as that is the year that model numbers were introduced. Before that it was simply the Chiefs Special. If no model number then it is a 1956 gun. It should have a flat rather than concave cylinder latch. The original grips would be checkered walnut with an uncheckered diamond around the grip screws and a S&W medallion inset. If the grips curve in at the bottom of the frame then it is a round butt. The Chiefs Special was introduced in 1950. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 20, 2009, 08:20 PM	#1166
bangkok Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Posts: 86	Thanks again Radagast! I believe that the model number was inside the crane, mint checkered grips with uncheckered diamond, round butt, near mint blueing, deep rifleing and shiney bore and the box was so mint and pristine, you would swear it just came out of the wherehouse (only thing missing were the papers)! I paid almost nothing for it! It will go nice with my mint 1962 Colt Detective Special!

August 22, 2009, 07:32 AM	#1167
Flamingtaco Member Join Date: August 22, 2009 Posts: 3	a) 38 SPL b) 4" c) Square d) 6 e) Front is fixed. Rear? Not sure. Screws on both side of the mount, so I would think so, but I don't have a driver clean enough to not muck the screws, so I haven't checked it. f) 3K521xx g) 15-3 Thanks!

August 22, 2009, 12:51 PM	#1168
mnrivrat Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: MN Posts: 3,990	Your K-Frame Model 15-3 would have been made I believe in 1972 . The rear sight is adjustable . (just a quick fill in until the experts come) __________________ Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people" (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)

August 22, 2009, 01:02 PM	#1169
shooter-55 Member Join Date: March 14, 2008 Posts: 7	Just traded for this yesterday. Interesting SN though: a. .357 Mag b. 2 1/2" c. Round Butt d. 6 shot e. adjustable rear (front fixed w/ insert orange) f. 99K01xx g. 66-1 Thanks for the input

August 22, 2009, 08:56 PM	#1170
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	shooter-55: 1981. This was the last year that pinned barrels & recessed cylinders were available, with both being deleted in 1982. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 23, 2009, 01:44 AM	#1171
echase1 Member Join Date: December 12, 2007 Posts: 3	Model 10-8 38 spl 4"barrel 6 shot fixed sights square butt K frame Serial No. AFL 44xx Any help with the DOB of this revolver would be appreciated.

August 23, 2009, 05:22 AM	#1172
Radagast Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 3,373	echase1: Between November 1984 & January 1985. __________________ If you're 6'4" 360, with the scraggly beard wearing a kilt, I think you can leave the guns at home. Just throw on your tartan, grab the nearest sledgehammer, and chase the bad guy down on foot while yelling "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!!!" If he stops before he hits the state line, splatter him - MGshaggy

August 23, 2009, 01:55 PM	#1173
shooter-55 Member Join Date: March 14, 2008 Posts: 7	Thanks Radagast. I appreciate the info. It is a keeper.

August 23, 2009, 03:40 PM	#1174
jibbs Member Join Date: August 12, 2009 Location: Westland, Michigan Posts: 119	Have a 640-1 J-Frame in need of ID a) 357 b) 2" c) round butt d) 5 shot e) pinned sight f) CAH6XXX g) 640-1 any help would be greatly appreciated, it is a pre-lock if that helps.

August 23, 2009, 04:58 PM	#1175
Racinbob Member Join Date: July 11, 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 630	I picked up a 60-4 a while back. BNE51xx. Per the catalog, it's a limited run in 1990 with 3" full underlug and adjustable sights. But the BNE prefix isn't even in the catalog. Reason? Also, I'd like to get a new yoke screw but this one has a spring loaded 'plunger' on the tip. Nothing like my other Smiths. Anyone know where I can get one? __________________ Life Member NRA, NAHC & NAFC, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor, Range Safety Officer