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Old October 20, 2011, 11:46 PM   #1226
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I think you have been reading my mind!
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Old October 21, 2011, 12:15 AM   #1227
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Old October 21, 2011, 02:26 AM   #1228
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Most unreliable gun I've ever owned. I'd never trust my life to it.
Same reason I don't like potato guns. Sure the ammo is cheap and it has no recoil but it has horrible stopping power. I haven't checked the statistics on hydrostatic shock yet though so the verdict is still out on them as a defensive weapon.
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Old October 21, 2011, 03:36 AM   #1229
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So many haters...
I own a Taurus pt111 Millenium in 9mm and it takes all day to pull that trigger back. Never would I buy another one. I was going to sell it to my LGS and the guy there said he wouldn't buy it just because of that.
I don't get the hating on HK. My first gun, which I still have and carry everyday is a USP 40. I found it reasonably priced when I bought it 13 years ago. Only had one problem with it ever. I shoot fine with it and don't have huge brick hands.
I carry a Glock on duty and in all the training and shooting we did with it at the academy, never once did I ever see a problem. Not a Glock "fanboy" per se, but never had a problem with it, and liked it better than my previous carry HK P2000. That was a sucky trigger pull.
Other than that I hate all other guns and you suck if you like them...
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Old October 21, 2011, 12:29 PM   #1230
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They avoid the why part so that when they jump on the band wagon and say "Glock", they don't have to give a reason, either because they don't have one or it's too stupid to say.
Ok, I'll never own a glock because I find them to be ugly, they don't fit my hand at all, the grip is horrible and I don't want to own what the rest of the sheeple think I should own.

If you want a glock, more power to you. I don't hate them, I just don't want one.

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Old October 21, 2011, 12:38 PM   #1231
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I am totally depressed now. According to just half the posts I have read on this thread, I am to never buy another gun ever.
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Old October 21, 2011, 12:39 PM   #1232
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Anyone ever think of buying a .243 WSSM rifle? Stupid looking little cartridge that wore a barrel out in 300 rounds. I know a guy that got one about ten years ago that was missing 3 inches of rifling in the barrel. If you want to talk accuracy issues, that about tops the list.
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Old October 21, 2011, 12:41 PM   #1233
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Old October 21, 2011, 08:43 PM   #1234
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Pretty much anything made by Kel-Tec. They look horrible, feel like poorly designed toys, and every one I have shot has failed in some way. Then there is the fact that they tend to release poorly engineered guns and have buyers figure out the problems so they don't have to. Like the PMR 30 where they produced a gun that was sending bullets down range sideways. Seems like something a gun company should figure out before they sell guns to people.

Oh, and their P3AT owners annoy me. They can't form a sentence without somehow fitting in the sentence that "Ruger copied my gun".

Wife: "Hey honey, what do you want for dinner?"

P3AT owner: "Anything, as long as it wasn't made by Ruger or shot buy a Ruger firearm. They copied my pistol! Oh, the humanity!"
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Old October 21, 2011, 10:22 PM   #1235
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Ok, I'll never own a glock because I find them to be ugly, they don't fit my hand at all, the grip is horrible and I don't want to own what the rest of the sheeple think I should own.

If you want a glock, more power to you. I don't hate them, I just don't want one.

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Old October 22, 2011, 12:01 AM   #1236
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I am totally depressed now. According to just half the posts I have read on this thread, I am to never buy another gun ever.
Rule #1 - don't worry about what everybody else says. They are usually wrong.

Your collection is yours, get what you like/want/need...
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Old October 22, 2011, 12:18 AM   #1237
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Foreign guns of any brand unless something similar is not available domestically at a reasonable price. This most definitely includes all glocks.
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Old October 22, 2011, 02:44 AM   #1238
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Pretty much anything made by Kel-Tec. They look horrible, feel like poorly designed toys, and every one I have shot has failed in some way. Then there is the fact that they tend to release poorly engineered guns and have buyers figure out the problems so they don't have to. Like the PMR 30 where they produced a gun that was sending bullets down range sideways. Seems like something a gun company should figure out before they sell guns to people.

Oh, and their P3AT owners annoy me. They can't form a sentence without somehow fitting in the sentence that "Ruger copied my gun".

Wife: "Hey honey, what do you want for dinner?"

P3AT owner: "Anything, as long as it wasn't made by Ruger or shot buy a Ruger firearm. They copied my pistol! Oh, the humanity!"
Definition of "Emulate": To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation.

Also see, Ruger.
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Old October 22, 2011, 03:05 AM   #1239
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I find a lot of this a Ford / Chevy / Mopar argument. What one guy swears by another claims is junk. Fwiw I'm not a big fan of Glocks but that is just me. I have shot Taurus Raging Bulls in 44 mag and never had a problem with them.
I have a PJK 9 HP, the FEG Copy of a Browning Hi Power and it is a fine gun a lot of people would never consider owning. I'm a big fan of guns that work and go bang when you pull the trigger, other than that. Lorcin Jennings and Raven are the only brands I would not open my wallet for. I'm much more about function as opposed to form. It boils down to what feels comfortable in my hand and does the job I need it to do. Which is mostly hunting.
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Old October 22, 2011, 03:20 AM   #1240
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I find a lot of this a Ford / Chevy / Mopar argument. What one guy swears by another claims is junk. Fwiw I'm not a big fan of Glocks but that is just me. I have shot Taurus Raging Bulls in 44 mag and never had a problem with them.
I have a PJK 9 HP, the FEG Copy of a Browning Hi Power and it is a fine gun a lot of people would never consider owning. I'm a big fan of guns that work and go bang when you pull the trigger, other than that. Lorcin Jennings and Raven are the only brands I would not open my wallet for. I'm much more about function as opposed to form. It boils down to what feels comfortable in my hand and does the job I need it to do. Which is mostly hunting.
Ravens are alright. Lots of people say that the Raven and FIE Titan are the best of the SNS pistols. I've even seen some pretty elitist people talk up these guns.
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Old October 22, 2011, 07:28 PM   #1241
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Same reason I don't like potato guns. Sure the ammo is cheap and it has no recoil but it has horrible stopping power. I haven't checked the statistics on hydrostatic shock yet though so the verdict is still out on them as a defensive weapon.
Oh yeah! I've never had anyone volunteer to stand in front of my potato gun and get shot.
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Old October 24, 2011, 10:05 AM   #1242
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Shot my brothers Grendel .380 this weekend. What a POS. You can't fire through a mag without your trigger finger going numb and the slide taking off your hide.
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Old October 25, 2011, 01:53 AM   #1243
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-No series II Kimbers
-Pistol-wise...nothing smaller than .380 and nothing bigger than .45colt.
-Prefer my S&Ws without a lock, but if the deal is right I will buy a "with
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Old October 26, 2011, 05:36 PM   #1244
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Amen. Not only are key locks on firearms unusable in a defense situation, and it has me asking "why?" every time, but I have also heard some horror stories about them. Oh and we know that guns need more peices to be more reliable, lol.
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Old October 27, 2011, 03:54 PM   #1245
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trigger locks

At some point in time it will be illegal to disable the built in trigger locks. I will never own one.
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Old October 27, 2011, 10:55 PM   #1246
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Glock (cheap plastic kid's toy)
Really? Hold one against your right big toe and pull the trigger.
Still think it's a toy?

Anything of any description made by Taurus.
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Old October 28, 2011, 09:10 PM   #1247
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Sig P229 DAK. These replaced the M9 a couple years ago as the USCG's LE carry weapon. It's stupidly overpriced and everything about this gun (comfort, reliability, accuracy) is mediocre, except the trigger, which flat out sucks. The pull is about a mile long. I guess having weapons that are less suited for actually shooting people makes us more politically correct.
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Old October 28, 2011, 09:43 PM   #1248
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Any Kimber because of their reputation for being a crapshoot in reliablity and having poor customer service. Too many other 1911's out there without the same reputation.

Don't see ever buying another Taurus after my most recent experience with them.
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Old October 28, 2011, 10:07 PM   #1249
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I guess I need to go to Vegas because any Kimber I have owned has been a damn fine firearm...barring the finish. That said I do not buy series IIs.

Now, my father on the other hand has had nothing but trouble (Series II).
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Old October 29, 2011, 12:10 AM   #1250
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