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Old August 27, 2013, 10:19 AM   #1676
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I am in the process of disposing of my 3rd and last Taurus. A .22 snubby blue.
Terrible trigger pull.
Springs were replaced and 7 out of 9 misfires resulted. Trigger improved but reliability went out the window.
Factory springs were put back in and it works now. I estimate the DA pull it is over 16 pounds though. SA has to be seven pounds.
I called Florida HQ Taurus about the Lifetime Guarantee. For $60 they would send me a shipping label. Not a deal in my opinion. From what I hear the triggers are about un fixable anyhow.
This was obtained on a trade and Maybe I can break even.
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Old August 27, 2013, 10:31 AM   #1677
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anything taurus.
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Old August 27, 2013, 03:47 PM   #1678
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The wild flagelations from "Nothign Brand X!!!!" to "Now I only own Brand X" in the very next post is pretty funny. Lots of opinions and experiences out there.
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Old August 28, 2013, 02:53 PM   #1679
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Kahr, Glock.
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:21 AM   #1680
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Old August 29, 2013, 11:17 AM   #1681
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I will buy anything I can afford.
I have 2 Hi-Points pistols and a carbine and I challenge ANY other manufacturer to beat their reliability. They quite simply go bang every single time. The pistols are ugly, heavy and don't hold enough rounds for their size but they shoot well.
I have 2 Kel-Tecs. Both are reliable though the 9mm, which I got used, had to go back to KT where they repaired it for free.
I have Diamondbacks. No problems.
I have Savage rifles. No problems.
I have a Phoenix HP22. No problems.
The fact is that I have quite a few "cheap" guns and I don't have any more problems out of them than I do out of the mid-range guns.
I have milsurps.
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Old September 2, 2013, 10:34 AM   #1682
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After buying and shooting a S&W Model 442, I have decided it, and revolvers like it, are on my "Never Buy" list.
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Old September 2, 2013, 07:59 PM   #1683
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After buying and shooting a S&W Model 442, I have decided it, and revolvers like it, are on my "Never Buy" list.
Why
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Old September 2, 2013, 09:00 PM   #1684
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Anything thats chambered in "40 s&w".
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Old September 3, 2013, 12:26 AM   #1685
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Anything thats chambered in "40 s&w".
I'm curious, why no .40 S&W?
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Old September 3, 2013, 01:11 AM   #1686
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Anything made by Taurus.
+1

Much like my experience with a Yugo GV. "Did the door handle really just come off while attempting to open the door? FTO!" and no it wasn't the ammo.
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Old September 3, 2013, 01:38 AM   #1687
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+3 on the .40 caliber. I have never been interested in it because .45 & 9mm can do the job.
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Old September 3, 2013, 08:24 AM   #1688
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Hunter. Magnum joe summed it up. And i have personal experience with it. And was complete discouraged with the round.
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Old September 3, 2013, 08:33 AM   #1689
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I too have avoided buying anything in .40 caliber simply because I feel it is an "in between" caliber. I know there is nothing wrong with the round but I have had 9mm and .45 pistols for years and the .40 is in between the two so, rather than stock another caliber of ammo, I have just made it a point to NOT buy one.
The same is true of a .308 rifle. I know for a fact that the round is just as good for my purposes as are my other rifles but I don't see any reason why I should get one. I cut my teeth on a 30-30 and a 30-06 and see no advantage FOR ME to own a .308. Again it is another round of ammo I would need to stock.
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Old September 4, 2013, 01:25 AM   #1690
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i agree on the high points
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Old September 4, 2013, 10:34 AM   #1691
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I've been following this thread almost since the beginning... and it's been fun. I'm of the mind to say, "never say never." However... I feel I probably can accurately say the following:

As long as Kel Tec keeps making guns via the nut and bolt assembly methods, I will never buy. As a kid, I had cap guns & BB guns that were made like that and they ALWAYS required retightening or would fall apart. I will pass on that manufacturing method on a gun that will actually be used for something.
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Old September 6, 2013, 07:30 AM   #1692
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A S&W revolver with the ILS.
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Old September 7, 2013, 09:43 AM   #1693
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ILS

What is ILS
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Old September 7, 2013, 09:51 AM   #1694
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OK, +56 on the no Taurus, after all, there HQ R in Miami, bad CS.
Actually I thought the Taurus cust. service wasn't too bad. When I got my revolver back it still sucked
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Old September 7, 2013, 11:32 AM   #1695
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S&W Sigma. Or Glock copies. It fires by my gosh, does the trigger have to be that bad. Feels like your dragging sand paper when you squeeze the trigger. Sold it off and will never you that road again.
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Old September 7, 2013, 06:12 PM   #1696
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I would buy anything for the right price:

Even a Chauchat, or a Ross rifle. I would buy an RG and name it Reagansbane for $10 or less.

Even bad guns can be interesting. As long as they don't cost you anything - I've got 4 mint condition 32 rimfire revolvers ... and less than $200 wraped up in all 4 - since I will never be able to shoot them, I just didn't spend much. I actually got one of them for $29 shipped on Gun broker - 100% mint, functional, double action.

One thing about Taurus - they are not afraid to try and make quirky or inovative new products. Despite my poor experience with a few of their guns int he past I really do admire them for that.
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Old September 7, 2013, 08:53 PM   #1697
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never buy a Mossberg

Ouch,I bought a new Mossberg.22 from Dumhams. Yes an AR 15 wannabee.
Could not hold even a small group. Drove 75 miles to Williams gun sight to see why. Williams is the best gunsmith in Michigan I believe.
The barrell was actually bent in an arc. I could not believe it.Brand new.
Took it back to Dunhams only to be told. Send it back to Mossberg!.
$295.00 while .22s By M&P are over 500. Again you get what you pay for!
Must be Chineese crap. Bought a new 10/.22 dime size group at 30yards.
I hope Mossberg and Duhams get a copy of this thread.
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Old September 7, 2013, 09:09 PM   #1698
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What is ILS?
Something your namesake would never have been involved with...

Here's one discussion on the dreaded feature -

http://smith-wessonforum.com/conceal...rnal-lock.html

Some things, like the transfer bar used by Ruger in their revolvers, are actual safety improvements. A revolver with a transfer bar can have a round under the hammer, where one without should have an empty chamber in that position to prevent a negligent discharge if the hammer is struck.

Other things are additional points of failure which are intended to give the illusion of increased safety. IMO, the S&W ILS falls into this category.
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Old September 7, 2013, 09:38 PM   #1699
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I.L.S. S&W internal locking system. I own about a dozen or so newer smiths, I shoot them all none have ever failed to date.
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Old September 8, 2013, 10:49 AM   #1700
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ILS

Oh a Hillary Hole, why didn't yall say so.
In regards to S&W I will buy older ones without MIM, and of course Hillary Hole less. Last revolver purchase 1988 M625-2.
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