Civilian FN SCAR 16S Now for sale!

Desert Scorpion · January 6, 2009, 10:12 PM

The Civilian FN SCAR 16s is now available to civilians in legal states, with a 10 round magazine or a 30 round magazine. Rumor has it that 1000 were shipped for initial production with them being categorized as “Special Edition Models” mainly for the reason they have markings on both sides of the gun. Regular ones will only have markings on one side. What I mean by markings are Serial # and manufacture information. So I wanted to start a post on the FN SCAR for civilians, mainly to see if anyone has any more information on them.
As of now the MSRP was around $2700.00 and unfortunately we have a few other factors to contribute to the price even being worse. 1. They are not being made in the United States but are imported causing an importation fee to be added, the United States factory will only allow military production of FN SCAR’s in the US. 2. The “OBAMA FACTOR” which will cause prices to be raised even more. 3. Demand. 4They are limited production editions with low serial numbers causing the price to be even more high.
So what do you end up with, you end up with a rifle going for over $4000.00 dollars. No joke go on GUNBROKER, there is one on there for $4000.00 and there is still 5 days into the auction.
May the games begin.

Please give your 2 cents I am interested,

Me personally $3000.00 is the limit for an FN SCAR I will pay, only because I find it to be a very good gun, and it may replace all US Military small arms soon; as it already had taken SOCOM.

shotgunjoel · January 6, 2009, 10:15 PM

I want one! But I'm not paying 4000 bucks for it, you serious!? Do you know how much ammo I could buy with all that money?

Eightball · January 6, 2009, 10:17 PM

*laughs at the price*

I knew this would happen--too little, too late for the release, with not enough of them.

Same thing'll happen for the ACR, too.

That being said, I'd still love to have one if anyone's buying.

General Geoff · January 6, 2009, 10:19 PM

I thought there was an import ban on "non-sporting" rifles..?

12131 · January 6, 2009, 10:19 PM

No reason that thing is worth any more than $2k to me. But folks, have at it.

Desert Scorpion · January 6, 2009, 10:36 PM

I did think about the importation

given the 922r compliance. Seems they really are being imported

how hell if I know. I just want one.

Evil Monkey · January 6, 2009, 10:44 PM

Sure it has great features, great barrel, etc, etc, but damn the price is still disproportionate.

People argue "oh my it's so modular!", but I say for the price the SCAR costs in its standard configuration, I can build a couple of AR's or even XCR's, SIG's, in whatever configuration I want for around the same price, plus or minus accessory cost.

Coal Dragger · January 6, 2009, 11:11 PM

Price is way way way too high even at MSRP, much less with the mark up.

**taliv** · January 6, 2009, 11:19 PM

if i were a collector, i'd definitely pay $3000 for one of the first ones. geez, how could you go wrong with that?

let me put it this way: if there is a ban think what they will go for 10 years from now if it's the standard issue for the entire US Military and only a few thousand are in civilian hands. seriously, they will go for STUPID money

put another way, for $2700, you could put your kids through college 18 years from now

Kino74 · January 6, 2009, 11:20 PM

One guy on AR15 said a shop in Louisiana had one for $3200. Whether its $2700 or what not that is still too high.

cchurchi · January 6, 2009, 11:29 PM

I won't buy a $4000 FN scar because I'm saving up to buy one of the 10 POF rifles for sale on Gunbroker for $4000.... NOT!

12131 · January 6, 2009, 11:32 PM

Quote:

if i were a collector, i'd definitely pay $3000 for one of the first ones. geez, how could you go wrong with that?

let me put it this way: if there is a ban think what they will go for 10 years from now if it's the standard issue for the entire US Military and only a few thousand are in civilian hands. seriously, they will go for STUPID money

put another way, for $2700, you could put your kids through college 18 years from now....

You must be one of those stock market speculators.

**taliv** · January 6, 2009, 11:45 PM

heh, well i was a broker for a couple years

(of course, if there's NOT a ban and/or the military doesn't adopt it, you'll basically be stuck with $3000 in a hard-to-sell piece of molded plastic. (see: Aug, Steyr)

Jaws · January 6, 2009, 11:54 PM

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The Civilian FN SCAR 16s is now available to civilians in legal states, with a 10 round magazine or a 30 round magazine. Rumor has it that 1000 were shipped for initial production with them being categorized as “Special Edition Models” mainly for the reason they have markings on both sides of the gun. Regular ones will only have markings on one side. What I mean by markings are Serial # and manufacture information. So I wanted to start a post on the FN SCAR for civilians, mainly to see if anyone has any more information on them.
As of now the MSRP was around $2700.00 and unfortunately we have a few other factors to contribute to the price even being worse. 1. They are not being made in the United States but are imported causing an importation fee to be added, the United States factory will only allow military production of FN SCAR’s in the US. 2. The “OBAMA FACTOR” which will cause prices to be raised even more. 3. Demand. 4They are limited production editions with low serial numbers causing the price to be even more high.
So what do you end up with, you end up with a rifle going for over $4000.00 dollars. No joke go on GUNBROKER, there is one on there for $4000.00 and there is still 5 days into the auction.
May the games begin.

Please give your 2 cents I am interested,

Me personally $3000.00 is the limit for an FN SCAR I will pay, only because I find it to be a very good gun, and it may replace all US Military small arms soon; as it already had taken SOCOM.

There are five on GB right now and the one from TN passed 5K

But they are made in USA. In Fredericsburg VA. From what I understand they are not made in the same place with the millitary version....I may be wrong tho.

this picture was posted with one of the adds on GB:

Evil Monkey · January 6, 2009, 11:56 PM

I'll come out and say it, none of these rifles that go beyond 1200-1600 dollars are really worth the price. They only cost that much because of the monopoly the manufacturers have over that said rifle design and that there are people willing to pay that amount.

Seriously, you ever wonder how the hell a rifle like the XCR, SIG556, and some improved AR's were going for $1200-1500 before the panic purchasing? These rifles are made in the states with US currency, and with the former rifles are totally proprietary, and they cost half to less than half of what these new rifles are going for (scar, aug's, fs2000, etc).

JWarren · January 7, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm kinda with you guys on this one. I really have no desire to own one-- especially at $4K.

-- John

W.E.G. · January 7, 2009, 12:09 AM

$4000?!!!

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow · January 7, 2009, 12:15 AM

Good one, WEG. But that one went for over FIVE thousand.

Lookit, if it's a SPECIAL run, making it COLLECTIBLE, then sure it's worth that - to SOME people - not me, but some. Just like any collectible, you may or may not ever get that to re-sell it, but it's like art - it's worth whatever instrinsically it's worth to you, knowing that you have one of 1,000 and no more of that special run will ever be made. To some people who really want to own that collectible, that's a steal. But the problem with that is (to me) it doesn't even SAY anywhere, stamped on the rifle, that it's FIRST RUN - 1 OF 1,000 or similar. So what kind of collectible is not even marked as such? So you get a certificate; well yeah, ok, that's something, but it'd be nice if the rifle was actually marked - I guess it's always tied to the certificate authenticating it through the SN, so that's something. Maybe it's worth that, if you're all about being the first.

As for whether it's worth that absent being a collectible? No way, no how, not even close. An XCR is as good or better and is right at $1,100 LESS, at about $1,600.

Eightball · January 7, 2009, 12:21 AM

I will admit.....the one thing about these is, that given the political climate, I'm sure $4K will seem like nothing later on down the road after a ban, and you're one of the ~1,000 guys with the last cool toy on the block, and that $4000 wouldn't seem so bad when they're skyrocketing in price.

Until then, I continue to laugh at the price.

**Coronach** · January 7, 2009, 12:52 AM

Worth $1.5k? Probably.

Worth $3k? No.

Worth $5k? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. No.

I actually feel relieved. I was trying to save up for the New Hawtness (whether it be SCAR or ACR/Masada) this winter, and I just didn't get it done. If this thing had clocked in at $1,500, I would be sorely tempted to put it on plastic. As is, I have ZERO desire to buy one on credit.

Thanks, FN.

Mike

nwilliams · January 7, 2009, 12:53 AM

I wouldn't put down that kind of money, especially since I read the MSRP is around $2600. It's amazing how much people will spend to be the first kid on the block with a new toy. I remember the prices of the Sig 556 when they first began to appear on gunbroker, glad I waited.

The ban threat is a logical reason for people to spend a lot of money on a SCAR but I'm pretty sure that by the end of the year you'll be able to get them for a lot less and I'm not convinced a ban will occur between now and then. If I'm wrong then I guess I'll just have to live without the SCAR

Evil Monkey · January 7, 2009, 01:08 AM

We already have rifles that fix what ever the hell is wrong with the AR15 platform at affordable prices.

I'm looking for a $1,000 decent bullpup that uses AR mags. Maybe an M17? But that all there is unless you go $1,700+++ for AUG's and FS2000's.

ugaarguy · January 7, 2009, 01:17 AM

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But they are made in USA. In Fredericsburg VA. From what I understand they are not made in the same place with the millitary version....I may be wrong tho

FNH USA is in Fredericksburg, VA and it's nothing more than a sales office. The FNP pistols, FS 2000, PS90, etc. are all marked FNH USA Fredericksburg VA, but they're made at FNMI in Columbia, SC. The SCAR is also being made at FNMI (the same place FN makes M16s and other small arms for the US Military).

W.E.G. · January 7, 2009, 01:32 AM

"collectible?"

In this context, I think that means I get to store it, without getting to shoot it, and so that SOMEBODY ELSE can enjoy it when I get tired of storing it.

I don't think so.

Evil Monkey · January 7, 2009, 01:39 AM

I agree WEG, I HATE the idea of a "safe queen". That's just a hording mentality.

If you want to collect stuff to put somewhere and not use, try looking into dolls.

January 6, 2009, 10:12 PM	#1
Desert Scorpion Member Join Date: November 15, 2006 Posts: 171	Civilian FN SCAR 16S Now for sale! The Civilian FN SCAR 16s is now available to civilians in legal states, with a 10 round magazine or a 30 round magazine. Rumor has it that 1000 were shipped for initial production with them being categorized as “Special Edition Models” mainly for the reason they have markings on both sides of the gun. Regular ones will only have markings on one side. What I mean by markings are Serial # and manufacture information. So I wanted to start a post on the FN SCAR for civilians, mainly to see if anyone has any more information on them. As of now the MSRP was around $2700.00 and unfortunately we have a few other factors to contribute to the price even being worse. 1. They are not being made in the United States but are imported causing an importation fee to be added, the United States factory will only allow military production of FN SCAR’s in the US. 2. The “OBAMA FACTOR” which will cause prices to be raised even more. 3. Demand. 4They are limited production editions with low serial numbers causing the price to be even more high. So what do you end up with, you end up with a rifle going for over $4000.00 dollars. No joke go on GUNBROKER, there is one on there for $4000.00 and there is still 5 days into the auction. May the games begin. Please give your 2 cents I am interested, Me personally $3000.00 is the limit for an FN SCAR I will pay, only because I find it to be a very good gun, and it may replace all US Military small arms soon; as it already had taken SOCOM. __________________ The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves from tyranny in government. ---Thomas Jefferson "None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson, 1803. Only the dead have seen the end of war......

January 6, 2009, 10:15 PM	#2
shotgunjoel Member Join Date: November 15, 2008 Location: illinois Posts: 838	I want one! But I'm not paying 4000 bucks for it, you serious!? Do you know how much ammo I could buy with all that money? __________________ Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless.

January 6, 2009, 10:17 PM	#3
Eightball Member Join Date: May 31, 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 4,214	laughs at the price I knew this would happen--too little, too late for the release, with not enough of them. Same thing'll happen for the ACR, too. That being said, I'd still love to have one if anyone's buying. __________________ cracked butt-"Getting shot in the head from across the street with a .22 would surely ruin your day." gezzer-"You do not want to fall down in a pasture of EMU's. They will eat you."

January 6, 2009, 10:19 PM	#4
General Geoff Member Join Date: November 28, 2006 Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania Posts: 3,449	I thought there was an import ban on "non-sporting" rifles..? __________________ "Be not afraid of any man, No matter what his size. When danger threatens, call on me And I will equalize."

January 6, 2009, 10:19 PM	#5
12131 Member Join Date: December 22, 2007 Location: God's Country (TEXAS) Posts: 512	No reason that thing is worth any more than $2k to me. But folks, have at it. __________________ NRA lifer, GOA lifer Criminals, commie libs, and sheeple love gun control.

January 6, 2009, 10:36 PM	#6
Desert Scorpion Member Join Date: November 15, 2006 Posts: 171	I did think about the importation given the 922r compliance. Seems they really are being imported how hell if I know. I just want one. __________________ The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves from tyranny in government. ---Thomas Jefferson "None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson, 1803. Only the dead have seen the end of war......

January 6, 2009, 10:44 PM	#7
Evil Monkey Member Join Date: June 26, 2006 Posts: 1,305	Sure it has great features, great barrel, etc, etc, but damn the price is still disproportionate. People argue "oh my it's so modular!", but I say for the price the SCAR costs in its standard configuration, I can build a couple of AR's or even XCR's, SIG's, in whatever configuration I want for around the same price, plus or minus accessory cost. __________________ I said the NRA and other organizations should have paramilitary groups, and they all laughed at me. I hope these forums are still around in the future, so I can laugh at them.

January 6, 2009, 11:11 PM	#8
Coal Dragger Member Join Date: March 25, 2008 Location: Black Hills, SD Posts: 294	Price is way way way too high even at MSRP, much less with the mark up.

January 6, 2009, 11:19 PM	#9
taliv Moderator Join Date: October 23, 2004 Posts: 8,677	if i were a collector, i'd definitely pay $3000 for one of the first ones. geez, how could you go wrong with that? let me put it this way: if there is a ban think what they will go for 10 years from now if it's the standard issue for the entire US Military and only a few thousand are in civilian hands. seriously, they will go for STUPID money put another way, for $2700, you could put your kids through college 18 years from now __________________ Oak Ridge Sportsmans' Association 3gun www.orsa3gun.com

January 6, 2009, 11:20 PM	#10
Kino74 Member Join Date: March 21, 2008 Posts: 318	One guy on AR15 said a shop in Louisiana had one for $3200. Whether its $2700 or what not that is still too high.

January 6, 2009, 11:29 PM	#11
cchurchi Member Join Date: October 22, 2007 Posts: 103	I won't buy a $4000 FN scar because I'm saving up to buy one of the 10 POF rifles for sale on Gunbroker for $4000.... NOT!

January 6, 2009, 11:45 PM	#13
taliv Moderator Join Date: October 23, 2004 Posts: 8,677	heh, well i was a broker for a couple years (of course, if there's NOT a ban and/or the military doesn't adopt it, you'll basically be stuck with $3000 in a hard-to-sell piece of molded plastic. (see: Aug, Steyr)

January 6, 2009, 11:56 PM	#15
Evil Monkey Member Join Date: June 26, 2006 Posts: 1,305	I'll come out and say it, none of these rifles that go beyond 1200-1600 dollars are really worth the price. They only cost that much because of the monopoly the manufacturers have over that said rifle design and that there are people willing to pay that amount. Seriously, you ever wonder how the hell a rifle like the XCR, SIG556, and some improved AR's were going for $1200-1500 before the panic purchasing? These rifles are made in the states with US currency, and with the former rifles are totally proprietary, and they cost half to less than half of what these new rifles are going for (scar, aug's, fs2000, etc). __________________ I said the NRA and other organizations should have paramilitary groups, and they all laughed at me. I hope these forums are still around in the future, so I can laugh at them.

January 7, 2009, 12:02 AM	#16
JWarren Member Join Date: January 5, 2007 Location: MS and LA Posts: 4,636	I'm kinda with you guys on this one. I really have no desire to own one-- especially at $4K. -- John __________________ "My name is a killing word." ------------------- Until further notice, please direct any important PMs to my AR15.com account. User name "Erevis."

January 7, 2009, 12:09 AM	#17
W.E.G. Member Join Date: September 26, 2006 Location: all over Virginia Posts: 2,908	$4000?!!!

January 7, 2009, 12:15 AM	#18
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow Member Join Date: November 14, 2007 Posts: 12,613	Good one, WEG. But that one went for over FIVE thousand. Lookit, if it's a SPECIAL run, making it COLLECTIBLE, then sure it's worth that - to SOME people - not me, but some. Just like any collectible, you may or may not ever get that to re-sell it, but it's like art - it's worth whatever instrinsically it's worth to you, knowing that you have one of 1,000 and no more of that special run will ever be made. To some people who really want to own that collectible, that's a steal. But the problem with that is (to me) it doesn't even SAY anywhere, stamped on the rifle, that it's FIRST RUN - 1 OF 1,000 or similar. So what kind of collectible is not even marked as such? So you get a certificate; well yeah, ok, that's something, but it'd be nice if the rifle was actually marked - I guess it's always tied to the certificate authenticating it through the SN, so that's something. Maybe it's worth that, if you're all about being the first. As for whether it's worth that absent being a collectible? No way, no how, not even close. An XCR is as good or better and is right at $1,100 LESS, at about $1,600. __________________ ATTENTION: Shooters, hunters, sportsmen & women everywhere -- Please pick up and pack out *more* trash with you than you created, *every* time you venture into the great outdoors - Let's show the world that we are more responsible than the average citizen!

January 7, 2009, 12:21 AM	#19
Eightball Member Join Date: May 31, 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 4,214	I will admit.....the one thing about these is, that given the political climate, I'm sure $4K will seem like nothing later on down the road after a ban, and you're one of the ~1,000 guys with the last cool toy on the block, and that $4000 wouldn't seem so bad when they're skyrocketing in price. Until then, I continue to laugh at the price. __________________ cracked butt-"Getting shot in the head from across the street with a .22 would surely ruin your day." gezzer-"You do not want to fall down in a pasture of EMU's. They will eat you." Last edited by Eightball; January 7, 2009 at 12:53 AM.

January 7, 2009, 12:52 AM	#20
Coronach Moderator Join Date: December 20, 2002 Posts: 10,615	Worth $1.5k? Probably. Worth $3k? No. Worth $5k? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. No. I actually feel relieved. I was trying to save up for the New Hawtness (whether it be SCAR or ACR/Masada) this winter, and I just didn't get it done. If this thing had clocked in at $1,500, I would be sorely tempted to put it on plastic. As is, I have ZERO desire to buy one on credit. Thanks, FN. Mike __________________ How is my M&P40 shooting? 99.78% reliable. (This is, unfortunately, out of date...it's only gotten better, I just need to put in the data). Wanted to Buy: vz24, Swedish, Siamese and various contract Mausers, in excellent condition (no scrubbed crests, please). Also, looking for a BHP in Ohio for FTF.

January 7, 2009, 12:53 AM	#21
nwilliams Member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 3,047	I wouldn't put down that kind of money, especially since I read the MSRP is around $2600. It's amazing how much people will spend to be the first kid on the block with a new toy. I remember the prices of the Sig 556 when they first began to appear on gunbroker, glad I waited. The ban threat is a logical reason for people to spend a lot of money on a SCAR but I'm pretty sure that by the end of the year you'll be able to get them for a lot less and I'm not convinced a ban will occur between now and then. If I'm wrong then I guess I'll just have to live without the SCAR __________________ Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! ~ Ash, Army of Darkness

January 7, 2009, 01:08 AM	#22
Evil Monkey Member Join Date: June 26, 2006 Posts: 1,305	We already have rifles that fix what ever the hell is wrong with the AR15 platform at affordable prices. I'm looking for a $1,000 decent bullpup that uses AR mags. Maybe an M17? But that all there is unless you go $1,700+++ for AUG's and FS2000's. __________________ I said the NRA and other organizations should have paramilitary groups, and they all laughed at me. I hope these forums are still around in the future, so I can laugh at them.

January 7, 2009, 01:32 AM	#24
W.E.G. Member Join Date: September 26, 2006 Location: all over Virginia Posts: 2,908	"collectible?" In this context, I think that means I get to store it, without getting to shoot it, and so that SOMEBODY ELSE can enjoy it when I get tired of storing it. I don't think so.

January 7, 2009, 01:39 AM	#25
Evil Monkey Member Join Date: June 26, 2006 Posts: 1,305	I agree WEG, I HATE the idea of a "safe queen". That's just a hording mentality. If you want to collect stuff to put somewhere and not use, try looking into dolls. __________________ I said the NRA and other organizations should have paramilitary groups, and they all laughed at me. I hope these forums are still around in the future, so I can laugh at them.

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