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Old July 12, 2016, 09:11 AM   #1
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Looking for a basic trail camera to trap a pest

I'm not in need of a super camouflaged high resolution camera, something more basic that is going to get mounted on my house near the front door for a night or two. I have my main garden in the fenced back yard, but there is a small 2'x2' square near my front door that over the years has been a nice spot to grow cucumbers. A deer keeps going after them, and I want to get a shot of it and a timeframe for its grazing.

My neighborhood is close, .25 acre lots, and I'm on the back side just across from the woods, so there is no way to dispatch the beast (yet).

Just trying to suss out the options. This won't be a long term mounted solution and its a safe neighborhood, so no need for super secure/hidden mounting.

Appreciate any input folks!
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Old July 12, 2016, 09:34 AM   #2
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I would recommend you go to Walmart and buy whatever is on the shelf. It will meet your needs. I generally try to find a camera that falls within the $100 realm. I've owned 6, 5 of which are still working. My oldest is a Primos that is the least accurate of the lot, but it's been out on my land for 4 years now in continuous use.

The way I see it, if someone steals it, a bear wrecks it, or a tree falls in a tornado, I'm only out $100 and I can buy another.

Can't bring myself to spend much more than that.
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Old July 12, 2016, 10:24 AM   #3
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I can usually find a Wildview for around 69 bucks and they seem to work okay for a while. I don't have good luck with them as a rule over the long term, and their warranty dept. seems to do anything they can to wiggle out of fixing or replacing a bad one.....but one of these is cheap and should cover your needs. They take 8 AA batteries, but the lifetime of the batteries is pretty good.
I normally have 6 to 8 cameras out year around, so I go through a few of them. Primos have not done well for me....period!
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Old July 12, 2016, 11:14 AM   #4
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Look for one with a fast shutter/reaction speed so you don't have a photo of a rear end instead of the head.
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Old July 12, 2016, 11:43 AM   #5
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I built some game radios that key up the radio and play back a recorded message.





They let you know right when something is at the location vs looking a a photo some time after it has already left.

Those work to around 2.5 miles. It sounds like your pretty close so you could likely get away with one of the motion sensing drive way alerts and you can get decent ones for under $50.


Something like this might work too, until it gets used to taking a bath.
https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=...MdGIjwOQzZXgCg
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Old July 12, 2016, 11:57 AM   #6
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Thanks for the suggestions folks.

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Something like this might work too, until it gets used to taking a bath.
https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=...MdGIjwOQzZXgCg
That actually sounds like a decent idea, I was debating on spending a weekend morning in my normal hunting gear sitting on the front door stoop once I get the timing of when this deer comes calling, hose in hand (until I figure out a more permanent method) and just spray the pest.

My wife is still telling me to hide, wait until it is very close, then jump up and slap it in the face.

Amazon has one of these "Primos 6MP Bullet Proof Trail Camera with Low Glow LED, Green" on their "prime day" specials for only $40. 1 second shutter reaction but 10 second reset time. Very basic, but might work to just get a shot of it, even with the not to stellar rep for a Primos camera.

....should've bought the other house with 3 acres. *sigh*
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Old July 12, 2016, 01:36 PM   #7
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Why waste money on something that won't help solve the problem?
Spend your money on some fencing, preferably electric and you will no longer have an issue
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Old July 12, 2016, 01:43 PM   #8
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Subdivision with an HOA, can't do any preventative measures like that.
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Old July 12, 2016, 02:16 PM   #9
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Might also look into planting things they don't like.

https://www.provenwinners.com/learn/...e/deer-control
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Old July 12, 2016, 03:44 PM   #10
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That's on the long term plan. tearing up a 1' wide path outside the 'sidewalk' path from the front door to the driveway, planting a row of something like 'Bee Balm' that can look decent through the year, and act as a barrier. For now though I would just love to learn exactly when this pest comes a callin... maybe have a surprise waiting for them.

Streamlight HL3 in one hand and a 250psi garden hose nozzle in the other.

Or just five fingers to the snout.
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Old July 12, 2016, 09:48 PM   #11
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Fishing line and some bells. They hate that.
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Old July 12, 2016, 11:05 PM   #12
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By a camera for your vehicle and park facing your garden. .... And whatever you do, do NOT rope the deer.

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Old July 13, 2016, 02:13 AM   #13
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I like the slapping idea. I really feel that it conveys just the right message. You need to be pretty confident that you can take the deer if he calls your bluff though.

I've only used a Bushnell Trophy Cam, but liked it quite a bit, reaction time was fast, IR pictures were good, and you could set it to take decent videos.
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Old July 13, 2016, 06:54 AM   #14
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Just let it eat!

Author Unknown -- probably for good reason.

The Plan
I had this idea I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it corn for a couple of weeks and then kill it and eat it.


The Execution
The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I’d noticed they congregated at my cattle feeder and didn’t seem afraid of me (a bold one would sometimes come up and sniff the feedbags while I was in the back of the truck). I figured it wouldn’t be difficult to rope one; toss a bag over its head to calm it down, hog tie it and transport it home. So, I filled the cattle feeder and hid at the far end with my rope. The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it.


After about 20 minutes, three deer appeared. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out and threw my rope around it. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just watched me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation.

I took a step toward it ... it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope. It was then the deer decided to give me an "education."


The Education
The first thing I learned is while deer may look at you funny while you rope them, they don’t like it when you tug on that rope – the deer EXPLODED!


The second thing I learned is that, pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity. But a deer – no chance! It ran, bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me my idea wasn’t working out nearly as good as I’d planned.


The only upside is that deer don’t have the stamina of other animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet when I tried to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing from the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off my rope.


That gash and several large knots showed how I’d cleverly arrested the deer’s momentum by bracing my head against several large rocks as it dragged me across the ground. Upon reflection, I realized I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in. I didn’t want the deer to drag the rope off and maybe suffer a slow death, so I managed to line it up in between my truck and the feeder. I’d set a little trap there beforehand – a kind of squeeze chute. As I got the deer in there and moved closer so I could get my rope back, the deer administered the next step in my "education."


Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when I reached to grab the rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. Now when a deer bites you, it doesn’t just bite and let go like a horse. A deer bites you and shakes its head – almost like a pit bull.


The proper thing would probably have been to freeze and draw back slowly – I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seemed like the deer bit and shook me for several minutes – but it was likely only several seconds.


I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now), decided to try and trick it.


While I kept it busy tearing the crap out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled the rope loose. That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior that day. Deer will rear up and strike at you with their front hooves, which are surprisingly sharp. When a horse does this, the best thing is to make a loud noise and move aggressively toward the animal. That will normally cause them to back down so you can escape.


However, this was a deer and such trickery would not work. In the space of a millisecond, I revised my strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run.


Now the reason you don’t try to turn and run away from a horse is there is a good chance it will paw you in the head. Maybe deer aren’t so different from horses after all, other than being twice as strong and three times as evil. The instant I turned, the deer hit me in the back of the head and knocked me down.


Now, when a deer knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. Maybe it doesn’t recognize the danger has passed. Instead, the deer pawed my back and jumped up and down on me while I lay there, crying like a little girl and covering my head.


I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away. I then understood why people hunt deer with rifles instead of roping them. At least a firearm makes them somewhat equal to their prey!
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Old July 13, 2016, 09:44 AM   #15
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Bearleft

I once transported a good samaratin to the hospital. This guy had tried to release a deer from a fence. The deer beat the tar out of him in the process. The gashes in his arm looked like a deranged maniac had taken a claw hammer to him.
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Old July 13, 2016, 01:47 PM   #16
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Bearleft, that is some wise advise and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it for the entertainment factor.

As far as keeping the deer from eating your stuff, this actually works, unlike other repellents: https://www.amazon.com/Bobbex-Deer-R.../dp/B002727B9M
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Old July 19, 2016, 12:47 PM   #17
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Appreciate all the advice folks. I am going forward with 2 fixes. Getting that deer spray first and hitting the vegetation. Then also buying a new front door light that has a built in security motion sensor camera, for enough reasons and maybe it would also catch the idiot deer too.
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Old July 21, 2016, 07:16 AM   #18
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You might consider a motion activated sprinkler. ie https://www.amazon.com/Orbit-62100-E...pest+sprinkler

We get Mulies that come into the yard to snack, and I use one of these to shoo them off. Being in Arizona you'd think the deer would enjoy the water..........they DON'T ! And neither do the javelinas (in case you have any of those hanging around)
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Old July 21, 2016, 07:49 AM   #19
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A little effort on your part and you can find one in short order..........

Gander Mountain. Bass Pro. Wal-Mart. Academy Sports. Amazon.

Plus do a search.
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