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Old April 3, 2014, 12:36 AM   #1
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If you could eradicate feral hogs tomorrow...

Would you?

I posted this in another hog thread, and thought the question would make for interesting conversation.

I have to admit, I have a hard time wanting hogs to be eradicated. I know they are harming the ecology, and unchecked, they will destroy the deer habitat. That said, I love year round hunting. We drive the property at night and usually spotlight a few, we drive them up during the day, we are always, year round, hunting. When I was a kid, deer season was it, and we NEVER saw a pig. They were folklore, stories told by old-timer ranchers that seemed too far-fetched to be believed.

Now, I get as excited about shooting hogs as I do deer. Part of this is the lack of any decent trophy deer on our place, but mostly, it is just awesome always being on a hunt. Filling feeders? Hunting. Moving blinds? Hunting. Sitting by the fire? Hunting. I've killed hogs while doing all of these activities. It's glorious.

We even had a sounder walk up on us while testing a new battery in the feeder. I ran the test, and thirty seconds later, two big sows with piglets in tow make their way to the feeder pen with me and my son standing in it. My .30-30 was leaning against a tree outside the pen, so it took me a few seconds to get to it, but I still managed to get one before they evaporated into the brush.

Lord help me....I.....love them.

I know ranchers and landowners will likely disagree, but the topic may be fun to kick around. Would you eradicate tomorrow if you could?
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Old April 3, 2014, 04:58 AM   #2
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Absolutely no. I wouldn't. The premis behind "kill every one you see" is based on the fact we are fighting a losing battle using conventional hunting techniques. Dogs, traps, baiting, year round hunting, doesn't matter. But they are a viable option for hunters to feed not only their families, but needy families also. And they are a ton of fun to hunt and keep your skills sharp for deer season.
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Old April 3, 2014, 05:16 AM   #3
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As a farmer rancher and from the devistation, yes i would, But I dont think homeland security and the IRS has enough ammo to do the job!
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Old April 3, 2014, 07:19 AM   #4
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If they ever make it to South Dakota, I'll use ever resource I can to be rid of them. We dont have them now, and we get along JUST fine without them. AS a landowner, I have absolutely NO desire to EVER see a feral hog on our ranch
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Old April 3, 2014, 07:43 AM   #5
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Yes. I would make it a point to take at least one with many types of calibers and weapons as well.
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Old April 3, 2014, 09:31 AM   #6
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In PA I would shoot all of them.We are finally getting nice bucks here with our antler restrictions.However,we have CWD here now so someday pigs may be the game.
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Old April 3, 2014, 09:45 AM   #7
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I don't think you could ever eradicate them completely. Hog hunting has turned into too big of a business to let that happen. We have very few feral pigs in Wisconsin and even tho they are a invasive and destructive species, those few property owners that have them, generally refuse to let folks come and hunt them for free. In places where there are none, you continuously hear of folks illegally letting them go. A few years back there was a case of a local guy going to Tennessee and buying a cattle trailer full of wild boar from a hunting preserve. On the way home, somehow the door got opened on the trailer as he was driving thru a large area of public land. The DNR tried to prosecute but had no evidence he released them on purpose, even tho they had a bill of sale from Tennessee and the dude had no explanation for where the hogs went. To much money to be made, in too many states for them to ever disappear completely.
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Old April 3, 2014, 09:48 AM   #8
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You will come home from work and find Jimmy Hoffa and D.B. Cooper drinking coffee at your kitchen table before feral hogs are eradicated .

With that said we need to find better ways to help control the population. It would be even better if there were more certified meat packing plants and slaughter houses that would butcher them and provide them to the homeless and hungry. We could end people going hungry in this country with feral hogs.

Just my .02,
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Old April 3, 2014, 10:03 AM   #9
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I find that the whole "PLEASE come help us eradicate feral hogs" (Eradication hunts for only $300 per day per hunter any hog over 110 lbs will cost an additional $10 per pound. Housing and use of your vehicle subject to extra fees, use of scoped rifles and brass cased bullets subject to user fee's) thing has become more of a marketing tool to attract hunters than anything else.
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Old April 3, 2014, 10:07 AM   #10
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I like having hogs around, good source of off season protein. I hunt, I don't farm or ranch, so more hogs the merrier for as I'm concerned. They seem to be transient around here, though. They're here today, gone tomorrow, kinda weird since on my other place a couple of counties from here, they're residents and always there. I've got some sign, now, nothing on the camera, but the trap is ready if and when.....
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Old April 3, 2014, 10:14 AM   #11
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This thread reminds me of the truck I saw yesterday with a "Texas Bowl Weevil Eradication Agency" or something like that sticker on the door. Now, for one, they've been working on THAT for a long, long time. I worked for the Texas Ag Extension service in 1973 on one of the research projects for such. Yeah, good luck on that. Good job security, I guess, for the folks that work in that agency. No way they'll ever be successful, but they will always have a payroll. Yeah, if they get a hog eradication agency, maybe I can get a job with 'em.
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Old April 3, 2014, 11:39 AM   #12
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we have no wild hogs so the only thing we can hunt year round here is coyotes and that's hardly satisfying. some of the more adventurous members of the family once plotted releasing a pregnant sow into the wild and letting her make a few generations of inbred piglets to hunt year round but now that I find myself raising a pair of pigs and how quickly a pair of them can completely decimate a 16ft wide round enclosure I would never wish them on anybody. yes I'm sure that a non domesticated animal would likely know how to regulate it's weight and not be quite as destructive but it still horrifies me what these things can do... and these aren't even that big yet. I would love to have something that I'm allowed to hunt year round but I would much rather have something that does a little less damage... perhaps one day cows will become a giant wild nuisance and I'll get to hunt those year round
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Old April 3, 2014, 11:49 AM   #13
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I don't think you could ever eradicate them completely. Hog hunting has turned into too big of a business to let that happen. We have very few feral pigs in Wisconsin and even tho they are a invasive and destructive species, those few property owners that have them, generally refuse to let folks come and hunt them for free. In places where there are none, you continuously hear of folks illegally letting them go. A few years back there was a case of a local guy going to Tennessee and buying a cattle trailer full of wild boar from a hunting preserve. On the way home, somehow the door got opened on the trailer as he was driving thru a large area of public land. The DNR tried to prosecute but had no evidence he released them on purpose, even tho they had a bill of sale from Tennessee and the dude had no explanation for where the hogs went. To much money to be made, in too many states for them to ever disappear completely.
Sounds like a horrible investment on his part, especially on public lands where he can't charge for a hunt. I mean, I'm sure with the trip, trailer and all the hogs he wasted 4 figures easily.
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Old April 3, 2014, 05:52 PM   #14
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I don't care how much fun they are to hunt. I never want to see one on my property period. I farm cattle and live just above the northern range of feral hogs. The day I see sign of feral hogs will be a sad day. I raise grass fed cattle and cannot have these hogs tearing the pastures up. I wish all the best to my southern neighbors in their eradication efforts.
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Old April 3, 2014, 05:54 PM   #15
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Kill them all, then kill all the wolves too.
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Old April 4, 2014, 04:17 AM   #16
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I think actually extinguishing them is pretty much impossible. If the habitat is good for them they will show up sooner or later and stay. Period.
Whether matters are "helped" by people releasing them on purpose or not.
They are too smart and tough to be wiped out by hunting alone.

Here in Europe we have a LOT of boars. Yes, I would much prefer Forests full of red stags, grassland full of pheasants, partridges, etc like it used to be in past decades. But the land has changed and boars are one of the species that thrive in the habitat of modern agricultural terrain. Trying to change that is like trying to change the course of a stream using buckets.
So no, I would not want to eradicate boars, partly because here they are a native species and "belong here" but also because nature decides which species are best fitted for survival. It's not up to me. I have to learn to live with the damage to crops boars do and hunt what I can.
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Old April 4, 2014, 10:12 AM   #17
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Can wild hogs survive northern winters with temperatures down to Zero?
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Old April 4, 2014, 10:24 AM   #18
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Can wild hogs survive northern winters with temperatures down to Zero?
Not sure about how they would handle several months of snow cover, but we had many single-digit nights on my place this year. They are pretty hardy.
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Old April 4, 2014, 09:30 PM   #19
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Here in CA, we have some BLM land with pigs, but most of this land is not overpopulated and hunting is not always successful. A lot of private property owners scream about pigs, but won't allow hunting or charge high rates to do so.

Ya'all in Texas can usually hunt, get pigs and not have to pay thru the nose to do it.
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Old April 4, 2014, 10:48 PM   #20
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I'd be willing to help anybody get rid of some, but I'm not gonna pay to do it.
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Old April 5, 2014, 08:56 AM   #21
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Can wild hogs survive northern winters with temperatures down to Zero?
The answer to that is yes they can. Wild boars live in Siberia and all over Northern Europe where the temperature is typical of arctic and sub arctic levels in the winter.
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Old April 5, 2014, 10:29 AM   #22
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Wild boar in Germany, which is as far north as Newfoundland--and gets quite a good bit of snow in the winter.
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Old April 6, 2014, 09:05 PM   #23
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The answer to that is yes they can. Wild boars live in Siberia and all over Northern Europe where the temperature is typical of arctic and sub arctic levels in the winter.
Yeah, this. Here is a map of their worldwide range--they can definitely survive in the northern US.
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Old April 7, 2014, 08:55 AM   #24
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Yeah. Kill them all. Then move on to starlings, ring-necked doves, feral cats, and Dalmation Toadflax,
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Old April 7, 2014, 10:01 AM   #25
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I'm a meat hunter so I want them to expand. I don't care about "trophy bucks".
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