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Old October 12, 2014, 03:44 PM   #1
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hunting aoudad with 257 weatherby

Ok so I have a free ranging aoudad hunt coming up in march now I have never seen one of these animals but I lived in idaho for most of my life and have killed lots of elk with a 243 and 270. My favorite rifle is my 257. Weatberby and at 300 yards the 110 accubond still has 1839 foot pounds of energy. So my question is this. Is my 257 weatherby with this load enough to take on this hunt?
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Old October 12, 2014, 04:16 PM   #2
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Sure.
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Old October 13, 2014, 06:44 AM   #3
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The aoudad is a goat that runs to 250lbs. The do have a reputation of a certain toughness. However, the .257wby is more than up to it.

Personally, I'd use the 115gr Nosler, or 115gr Berger VLD Hunting. These do a "job" on the chest cavity. John Barsness did an article on the Berger VLD's wherein he and others shot a LOT of auodad in New Zealand with the Bergers. They were very, very happy with the results.
For hunting whitetail deer, the 100gr Hornady's have been very, very good. But, may not have enough "umph" to quickly put down the tough goats.

Another pair of bullets that would do the job are the 117gr Sierra and 120gr Speer "Hot-cor".

The .257 was "Roys" favorite. It's one of mine too. Really, the ultimate "bean field" deer rifle.

I normally sight mine in 1" high at 100yds for 200yd zero. If I'm hunting over a long powerline row or airport, ect, I'll raise the rear turret to 2.5" (6 clicks up) for a 300yd zero. At 400yds it's 8" low.

Beyond that range, bullet expansion becomes problematic, as does wind drift.
I've got a .260 that with 129gr bullets is "supposed" to be superior. However, I lost a doe I shot at ~470yds because the bullet for practical purposes didn't expand. I saw the hit through the scope (fur "puffed" at the bullet impact), but found little blood. Coyotes found the deer that night about 1/4mi from where I shot the deer.
(airport using laser range-finder; bi-pod and sand bag).

Let us know how the hunt goes.

I've been told that the "toughest" thing about auodad hunting is dealing with the stench of an old billy if you decide to dress it for consumption....
If you are going to "eat" it, shoot a med. size "kid" or ewe (nanny). Much, much better eating...
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Old October 13, 2014, 07:58 AM   #4
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Roy knew what he was doing.

I can't see any reason why the 257 wouldn't work. I shot a whitetail with the 110 Accubond. The bullet hit the point of the shoulder, cut the scapula in two, put a 1"X4" hole in the ribs and then penetrated to the pelvis. I recovered the bullet and it weighed 67gr. That deer didn't even kick.
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Old October 15, 2014, 06:17 PM   #5
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An Aoudad is not a true goat. They are in the family bovidae which includes cattle, gazelle and antelope The males are referred to as rams in the African tradition of calling any male antelope larger than the nyala a ram. And they are TOUGH. I have not however noticed a bad or rank smell on even the oldest rams.

One of the reasons that aoudad have such a reputation for being so tough is that like ALL African animals their vitals lie entirely under the shoulder muscle much further forward than North American animals. Shoot an aoudad behind the shoulder and you've gut shot him. If you want clean kills on an aoudad shoot them directly though the middle of the shoulder like all African animals.

I would worry that 110 gr Accubond may not be tough enough at .257 Roy velocity to reliably penetrate the heavy shoulder muscle of a large aoudad ram without breaking up.
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Old October 16, 2014, 10:39 AM   #6
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I believe the .257 Weatherby is "enough gun" but worry about your bullet choice. I'm a 'worshiper' of Nosler Partitions because they have never failed me unlike other bullets. They are not currently in vogue because they are time tested and reliable .. no fantastic claims just results.

Good luck on your hunt.
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Old October 16, 2014, 11:17 AM   #7
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My choices for Aoudad with a 257 Bee would be a 120 Gr Nosler Partition or a 100 gr or 115 gr (1 in 9 or faster twist needed for the 115) Barnes TSX. Another great bullet for .257 on Aoudad would be the 120 gr Swift A-frame.
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Old October 18, 2014, 09:41 AM   #8
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The problem with all those rounds is that they are not factory loaded. I just started hand loading and not confident in my ability yet.
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Old October 18, 2014, 10:46 AM   #9
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Just for kicks /I looked over on Midway, they list a couple of the 115's mentioned here as loaded ammo as well as the 120gr Partition.

Of them all I would look at the 115gr Partition as they shoot flat and hit hard out of my standard 25-06, I am sure you wouldn't be disappointed with them rolling along two hundred FPS faster.
Nosler 115gr Partition

I love the 25 caliber but when I wanted something a bit more than my standard 25, I decided that with the abundance of '06 brass I already had on hand to go with the 25-06 AI, and a longer barrel to help out with the slow powder to gain velocity. My loads with it are running right there in the ball park of the 257 WBY, but I cna load them MUCH cheaper. I do admit that a 115 or 120gr bullet smoking out at 3300+ FPS does do a number on the hogs and coyotes.
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Old October 19, 2014, 06:03 AM   #10
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Many years ago, Roy Weatherby took his then new 257 MAG to Africa for assorted game. He had no problems taking zebra and eland with this new cartridge. Both animals are much larger than Barbary sheep. You should have equal success.

Taking an elk with a .243 requires exceptionally good shot placement. Good shooting!

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Old October 19, 2014, 09:44 PM   #11
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Thank you. I've been called a liar about shooting an elk with a 243. But it is possible I've killed a couple cows with a 243 Winchester.one cow went about 20 yards and fell over the other cow went about 40 yards and died in the road.both heart shots... but the way I understand it on an aoudad the vitals are behind the shoulder blade therefore the best shot placement seems to me to be a quartering away shot and bust the outside shoulder.
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Old October 20, 2014, 06:45 PM   #12
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.257 should work, I've taken several with a 6.5x55.
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