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Old September 2, 2010, 06:11 PM   #551
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I've never heard of feral hogs in Utah. Are they isolated escapees or is there a stable population? I thought I'd like to have hogs to hunt until I read through this thread (great read, btw!). Now, I just want to keep them as far from the elk, mule deer, pronghorn, moose, bison, and sheep habitat as I can!

I'd do my part to go a shoot one though... Just sayin'.
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Old September 7, 2010, 11:29 AM   #552
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Flint any updates on this whole ordeal I been following it and am interested pls don't let this thread die
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Old September 7, 2010, 04:30 PM   #553
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I'll update as I can, been busy putting away hay....and rebuilding the auto trans in my old Ranch Truck (yee-hah........).


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Old September 10, 2010, 11:56 AM   #554
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Hi Flint,

Been reading this thread for a while and to me its just like an adventure book or kinda TV series to be followed and see what comes up next. You see where I live(Geneva, Switzerland) hunting is totally banned(but not on owning how many number of guns you may have), although, on some parts of Switzerland it is allowed. Unfortunately, as one firing range buddy told me that you have to earn the license by studying it out for a full year(you have to attend one session each week) to be able to get one(license). You guys (Stateside) are pretty darn lucky to be able to hunt by just purchasing a license(I presume) and being able to hunt all sorts of game and the whole year round(for feral hogs)for that matter. Here, I'd just have to be contented on just shooting target sheets. I have cousins there in Texas('think near Houston) and hopefully would be able to go there with my family for a vacation next year. Planning to be left behind and stay a bit to have an experience in feral hog hunting and taste how good its meat for barbecue with beer.

Hope your truck gets fixed real soon so you can start again to update this thread.

More power to you and good hunting.


Best regards,

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Old September 10, 2010, 05:51 PM   #555
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Robert....I hope you get the chance to visit your family here.

Let me be the first to extend a warm welcome and I hope your time spent in Texas will be enjoyable for you and your family.

Thank you...also for your post. It is a good reminder for we Americans of the Freedoms and liberties we enjoy.... (that are often times taken for granted).


Take care Sir,

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Old September 19, 2010, 07:21 PM   #556
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I had to google this. Just had to. I'll also have to name a heavy metal band after it. "Judas Sow"


http://www.agpub.on.ca/pork/apr98/div1.htm
"Judas pig
Australian officials are using an old farm ploy to control a spiraling wild pig population that is threatening farmers' crops and livestock herd health.
The age-old practice of using a "Judas" member of the herd to lead the rest to slaughter has been adapted with some success by Australian wildlife officials trying to control wild pig herds, reports the Western Producer.
Wild pigs are captured, coddled, fitted with radio transmitters and released back into the wild, where they lead hunters to the wild herds. The method, which takes advantage of the animals' socializing behaviour, also works in controlling wild buffalo, cattle, donkeys and goats.
As well as inflicting up to $100 million in damages to crops, fences, water supplies and even lambs, the wild pigs are potential carriers of devastating diseases such as hoof and mouth.
While each Judas sow makes contact with up to eight other pigs in a week, Aussie eradication programs have had at best an 85-per cent success rate, not high enough to control epidemics, say officials."
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Old September 20, 2010, 12:03 AM   #557
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They need to "fit them" with a pound of C-4 and a remote detonator.

Set it off when they rejoin the herd.

But with hogs....new ones would somehow sprout from the pieces, you just can't get rid of them once they are established.
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Old September 22, 2010, 11:11 AM   #558
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NOW That is a "pig BOMB"!


Flintknapper I too have truly enjoyed your posts in this hogwild drama.

Be Blessed
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Old October 8, 2010, 03:06 PM   #559
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You see where I live(Geneva, Switzerland) hunting is totally banned(but not on owning how many number of guns you may have), although, on some parts of Switzerland it is allowed. Unfortunately, as one firing range buddy told me that you have to earn the license by studying it out for a full year(you have to attend one session each week) to be able to get one(license).
Robert, that's interesting. My wife and I were just in Switzerland a couple of weeks ago. My impression was that guns and hunting were roughly similar to the U.S. I found a nice gun store in alte stadt Luzern. We took the cog wheel train up to Mt. Pilatus. On the way up we noticed the descending train pick up a couple of hunters with rifles. I guess hunting and firearms laws vary enourmously from canton to canton. Is the French-speaking portion of Switzerland more anti-hunting than the rest?
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Old October 9, 2010, 05:08 PM   #560
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Flint, do you load your own .458? or reload?
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Old October 9, 2010, 09:15 PM   #561
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Hi Tommy,

I'm a reloader of many years....so I "brew up" my own for the SOCOM as well.

The main advantage (besides cost savings) is that I can load anything from a 100 gr. pill (yes 100 gr.) up to 600 gr. sledgehammers.

There is a very good choice of bullet weights/types in .458 caliber.
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Old October 12, 2010, 08:39 PM   #562
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This was an amazing thread...

I was born in Oklahoma and the only thing worse than an Okie is a Texan... Texans are just stubborn. Im glad im in California.

I currently live in California, California has no feral hog problem because owners charge people $400 a day per person to hunt feral hogs on their property. The $400 dollars I am sure covers their Insurance, their Boat and their Lamborghini payments. The business has grown to the point that private landowners are leasing government lands just so that they can further control the amount of hogs that are killed, so they can keep their businesses thriving.

The military bases here let you hunt for free but there are so many hunters that we kill most of the hogs on the bases, in addition The hogs usually run over to privately leased land, where the property leasors tend to keep them fed. Basically the state of california issues 56,000 Hog Tags a year and we are currently only killing between 3k to 4K hogs.

As long as the person signs an unconditional release of liability, you should have no problem letting hunters on your land to solve your problem. If you Texans really wanted to solve this problem people from California would come to Texas by the bus loads and do it for you. if you would let us on your Property.

Its amazing with all of the knowleged that Flintknapper has you would not have people sign a simple release and allow them to hunt on your land. In my opinion you enjoy it, you like killing. killing is fun, you are a true soldier, so go and kill them critters.

If you decide that you do not want to KILL EM... then just put em in a VERY BIG TRUCK and dump them off over at any army or Air Force base... We'll take care of the rest. Just understand that you will be making MANY MANY young men and women happy. The future of our country depends on it.

I would like to add one more thing.... BOOMER SOONER!! We got you guys this year... Yea Baby.
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Old October 13, 2010, 08:39 PM   #563
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CD, I really don't know what to say....except: I will PAY YOU to stay in California.

Just let me know what it will take.




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Old October 13, 2010, 11:14 PM   #564
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I'd happily throw in a few bucks too.
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Old October 14, 2010, 07:20 PM   #565
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Hi Tommy,

I'm a reloader of many years....so I "brew up" my own for the SOCOM as well.

The main advantage (besides cost savings) is that I can load anything from a 100 gr. pill (yes 100 gr.) up to 600 gr. sledgehammers.

There is a very good choice of bullet weights/types in .458 caliber.
Okay, I have just got to ask. Flint, what do you shoot with a 100 grain bullet in a .458 Socom? Varmints?
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Old October 19, 2010, 01:22 AM   #566
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a 100 grain in a .458 socom would destroy just about anything on the planet inside of 200 yards. Bullet weight is just one factor. You have to realize with that light of a bullet the velocity advantage.

Flint, i found about 25 pcs once fired .458 brass when i posted that. I found about another 25-30 today, and remembered to check back and see if you needed it. Once i get a few hundred, i'll send it your way, if you'd like. Nobody around here shoots it, so it'd just end up in the buckets that get sold for scrap..
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Old October 19, 2010, 09:42 AM   #567
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a 100 grain in a .458 socom would destroy just about anything on the planet inside of 200 yards. Bullet weight is just one factor. You have to realize with that light of a bullet the velocity advantage.
It makes for a pretty explosive round. As you point out, velocity is "right up there".... with some folks reporting 3,000 fps from a 16" barrel.

The projectile is aluminum (hard alloy) with a generous hollow point. Its actually not a small bullet, just lightweight.
http://lehighbullets.com/products.asp?cat=19

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Flint, i found about 25 pcs once fired .458 brass when i posted that. I found about another 25-30 today, and remembered to check back and see if you needed it. Once i get a few hundred, i'll send it your way, if you'd like. Nobody around here shoots it, so it'd just end up in the buckets that get sold for scrap
You have PM.
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Old October 19, 2010, 05:16 PM   #568
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http://lehighbullets.com/products.asp?cat=19

Wow! a 10ft muzzle flash!!! I suppose if you snuck up on a hog not only would you turn him into sausage but you could grill him at the same time!!! I bet that is spectacular to witness in person.
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Old October 20, 2010, 12:14 AM   #569
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Flint, those bullets look great but they make me paranoid because

"to eliminate the potential for aluminum oxide formation, the bullets are coated with a dry film lube ..."

Aluminum oxide is very, very hard.
Since aluminum yearns to make that oxide instantly on exposure to air, I would be afraid of the lube rubbing off in a spot or two. Then I would be sending material that sharpens knives down my rifling.

Just sayin',
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Old October 20, 2010, 12:42 PM   #570
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i cant seem to find the hogs around here. So not all of texas is as overrun as id like. but we do have a deer or 6 on property. but ill be if i cant find a hog to shoot and cook before nov 2nd!
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Old October 24, 2010, 10:09 AM   #571
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Robert, that's interesting. My wife and I were just in Switzerland a couple of weeks ago. My impression was that guns and hunting were roughly similar to the U.S. I found a nice gun store in alte stadt Luzern. We took the cog wheel train up to Mt. Pilatus. On the way up we noticed the descending train pick up a couple of hunters with rifles. I guess hunting and firearms laws vary enourmously from canton to canton. Is the French-speaking portion of Switzerland more anti-hunting than the rest?

Hi Flynt,

Sorry for the late reply. How did you find Switzerland,especially, Luzerne? 'Was busy with the research for the guns listed in a catalog sent to me by a local auction gunhouse. So many guns at a very much attractive price. Hundreds of guns to choose from but hundreds more short of buns(doe) to have them. Hahaha! PM me if you want to know the website just to checkout what they are offering.

Seriously speaking, well your impressions with guns are right on being roughly similar with the U.S. IMHO, even much more better and liberal. Where can you find a country which subsidizes the ammo (applies to 7.5 x55mm, 5.56 Nato and 9mmP) for the civilians to shoot their(Swiss military type issued) weapons at a military range. Except on owning full autos and CCW which can be discussed on other threads. Almost the same gun rules apply here to all cantons as far as I know unlike in your states like NY, NJ CA etc. where you have a more stricter and varied rules.

As to hunting, yes the rules differ from canton to canton but its not generally speaking that the French-speaking cantons of Switzerland are anti-hunting. It is only here in Geneva where I heard of such total ban on hunting. Perhaps, its just the small size and geography of the canton. FYI, Geneva has not much forest around thus wildlife barely exist where hikers could very much occasionally actually encounter or see game animals. As for the other cantons where hunting are allowed, wild boars and deers are the usual fare, although, 'haven't heard of such infestations of wild boars in this part of Europe. If there was, perhaps, I might have tasted its meat with their excesses. Have heard from friends who works in the household with hunters as masters that they bring in such games when the season is up. Unfortunate for me, haven't tried seeing or even tasting these wild games.

Tell me something about your hunting experience there in your part of the country for I am hungry for such stories since I have none to tell you back.

Best regards and happy hunting,

Robert

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@ Flintnapper: Been missing your pix. Hope you're already done with the hay stacking and the auto trans of your truck. Best regards too!
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Old October 24, 2010, 03:38 PM   #572
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I currently live in California, California has no feral hog problem because owners charge people $400 a day per person to hunt feral hogs on their property.
You transplanted Okie's are naive. California doesn't have a feral hog problem? Are you kidding? Your feral hog population is both growing in numbers and expanding in geographical range.
http://westernfarmpress.com/californ...arger-imagined
http://www.sibr.com/mammals/M176.html
http://www.gilroydispatch.com/lifest...w.asp?c=135544
http://www.trailcenter.org/newslette...ing2000-05.htm
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/i...ers&status=301
http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...04.pvpigs.html
http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20..._15.pigs1.html
http://www.pigs4ever.com/news/rooting_for_relief.htm

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As long as the person signs an unconditional release of liability, you should have no problem letting hunters on your land to solve your problem. If you Texans really wanted to solve this problem people from California would come to Texas by the bus loads and do it for you. if you would let us on your Property.
Funny how people who don't have land in Texas are so fond of saying this and it is incorrect, but if you believe feral hogs aren't a problem in CA, then you will likely believe anything.

Problem is, such releases of liability do not free the landowner of liability if the hunter kills a 3rd party not included on the liability release, such as a person on the next property, out on the road, coming to visit, etc.

Unconditional liability releases don't stop lawsuits.

It does not happen often, but when it does, the landowner can be saddled with losses that s/he can't afford and hence risk losing all or part of the property in question if s/he can't pay.
http://www.totalinjury.com/news/arti...n-hunters.aspx

This incident didn't have the hunter on private land, but it very well could have. The result is the same. He screwed up and shot a person on a different property.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...00811315153759
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Old October 30, 2010, 09:27 PM   #573
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Alright, not only is flint slacking, but i'm tired of him getting to have all the fun.

My little trap (8' x 4' x 4') just isnt' cutting it anymore.

So out came the cutting torch, old fencing material, hog panels, some metal grating, some square tubing, etc..

A little engineering..

A little welding.. And she's almost done.
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Old October 30, 2010, 09:28 PM   #574
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Old November 2, 2010, 08:56 AM   #575
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CaliforniaDreamin,

Please stay in **********. The last thing we need is a bunch of yahoos who know NOTHING about feral hog control coming onto our private property and shooting the place up. Since this was your one and only post, I strongly suspect you are some sort of a troll, especially due to the comments you made to Flint about killing, etc. I have you on permanent "ignore" status now.
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