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Old June 30, 2014, 08:49 AM   #1576
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The racoons are too busy getting in to the peach trees this time of year....

Just be happy the hogs are not around tearing things up like they normally do.
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Old June 30, 2014, 12:29 PM   #1577
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More hog control, from way long ago.
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Old June 30, 2014, 04:32 PM   #1578
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Great photo, Art. No doubt more than 200 years of free-ranging hogs contributed significantly to the feral hog population.
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Old August 9, 2014, 09:11 PM   #1579
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Several places in the thread, shot placement has come up and Flintknapper graciously provided us with some sectioned skulls to see where the brain is and where the brain stem exits the skull.

One of the comments made is to place shots "behind the ear." If the shot isn't low enough to cause damage to the spine either directly or indirectly or doesn't angle into the skull to cause brain damage, behind the ear shots can result in nothing but damaged meat and other soft tissues. Here is an example from a hog I took this morning...

http://youtu.be/N73hReqkpmU (video of the hunt)

A previous hunter had shot this hog behind the left ear. The bullet traverse the neck muscle and exited right behind the right ear and actually damaged the pinna (external ear). The was a small, healed scar on the left side, but a gaping, weepy wound on the right side, surrounded by scar tissue and then a scarred ear. The shot was not low enough to involve the spine or spinal cord and was not far enough forward to cause damage to the brain. The hog had survived for quite a while and appeared to be doing well until I shot him.

Here is the more broad view so that you can tell what you are looking at in the following closeup shot...


Closeup shot.


All in all, it was really pretty darned good shot placement, right behind the ears. An inch further forward or maybe an inch or two lower and I would not have ever seen this hog. However, that isn't what happened and despite being right behind the ears, the hog lived to be hunted another day.
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Old August 10, 2014, 02:04 AM   #1580
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So something like 2" lower and a hair or three forward would have done the job?
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Old August 10, 2014, 02:07 AM   #1581
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And we have signs that our pigs might be back. We suspended filling the feeder and putting batteries in the trail cams.

Time to get busy I guess.
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Old August 10, 2014, 08:16 AM   #1582
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So something like 2" lower and a hair or three forward would have done the job?
Yes, probably so. People talk about "shot placement" being king, but it is part of 3 key factors of placement, penetration, and trajectory. All have to work together. This hunter had 2 out of 3 right, but the trajectory had the shot going through and missing everything critical.

"Behind the ear" is a certainly more likely to be a good shot than not, but I see or read about 2 or 3 examples every year where it fails and it fails because the shot misses CNS structures. This is just a sort of neat (tragic?) example of how that shot can go wrong and likely why.
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Old August 10, 2014, 11:39 AM   #1583
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So something like 2" lower and a hair or three forward would have done the job?
Most likely, but personally...I would have gone the other direction for a 'neck shot'. It is (and always will be) what I recommend.

IF a broadside shot presents itself, I will always opt for the neck shot.

Of course, 'real life' dictates we take whatever ethical shot exists.

Your bullet/cartridge combination should be considered as well.

Good post DNS, thanks for sharing that.
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Old August 10, 2014, 05:55 PM   #1584
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Thanks for the clarifications DNS and Flint. Very appreciated.

I'm planning on my 6.8 SPC II AR hand loaded with 110 grain V-Max pills.

I need to get a bunch loaded and go sight that rifle in.
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Old August 10, 2014, 06:01 PM   #1585
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Good post DNS, thanks for sharing that.
LOL, you got me started looking for stuff like this and it really can make things a lot more interesting.
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Old August 15, 2014, 07:28 PM   #1586
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I was just revisiting this thread and the thought had hit me...

How far do pigs typically roam? My apologies if this has been covered previously in this tread.
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Old August 15, 2014, 07:51 PM   #1587
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^^^^^^^^^^

TW, that would be hard to pin down. I suspect it varies greatly depending upon 'habitat' and seasonal weather conditions.

I will venture a 'guess' that where I live (Deep East Texas), most hogs will live their lifetime in 4-6 square mile area (Mature Boars...probably 8-10 sq. miles).

We have excellent habitat (food and cover), plenty of water....so no reason/need to travel very far.

Conversely, I can imagine locales (South Texas, Hills of California) where traveling several miles each day would be required for sustenance.

Mature Boars can (and will) travel 10's of miles in search of Estrous Sows to breed, so no telling what their 'limit' is.

Sows and their offspring are interested in finding an area that provides the greatest amount of the things they need (water, food, shelter from the elements) and utilizing that... until it is gone or pressure of some type moves them. Naturally, they are a bit less transient.

No doubt, someone has radio-collared a pig or two in an effort to study their movements, but I am not aware of an 'in depth' study on the subject.
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Old August 15, 2014, 10:42 PM   #1588
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TW falls over....

OMG! Flint does not know everything about pigs!

Ok, all kidding aside. Thank you. I know some critters cover dozens or hundreds of miles. Was just curious about these Porcine pests!
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Old August 22, 2014, 02:25 AM   #1589
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The question is a few days old but I will go ahead and add to Flint's answer. Hogs are adaptive. One of the first signs things are good in their world is they appear during the daylight hours. But should hunters show up and take a few shots, the hogs will almost immediately go nocturnal, but not leave. They will stay in this pattern for quite awhile. Should hunters adapt and go hunting at night also, the hogs very well may leave the area.....for a while. Our hogs around here are pretty much entirely nocturnal. But they haven't left. However, I have seen what I swear is the same hog (exact same color pattern and markings) in two separate locations. And he had to cross a river (not a creek) and a highway, and travel about 6 miles as the crow flies. So with a range like that, its no surprise they "disappear" for periods of time.
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Old August 30, 2014, 01:49 AM   #1590
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I live just south of Austin in an área that includes suburbs and large and small tracts of open forested land. I have seen pig signs even within a 500 acre city park on the south side of Austin. Cars and trucks are running into them all the time when they cross a major toll road at night where the speed limit is 85 mph.
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Old September 1, 2014, 02:25 PM   #1591
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At Least We Don't Have This Problem

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Old September 1, 2014, 04:21 PM   #1592
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Radioactive, hey, if they glow in the dark that makes them easier to see at night!
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