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Old February 10, 2012, 01:14 PM   #451
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Thanks for the link, Bohemus. I've seen custom modified drums, but that is the first one I have seen for retail sale (though it is a modified AK drum as well).

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Old February 10, 2012, 01:19 PM   #452
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http://www.bonesteelarms.com/75-Roun...A-vz580010.htm

Here it is, and yes... it's expensive!
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Old February 10, 2012, 01:22 PM   #453
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Looks as if they charge about $100.00 for the conversion...so yeah, pretty steep. OTOH, they take all the guesswork out of the equation. Also they have some other parts that might come in handy (like a US made steel trigger control group).

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Old February 10, 2012, 01:24 PM   #454
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On the other end of the spectrum, I wish somebody made a 20 round mag. for these things!
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Old February 10, 2012, 01:25 PM   #455
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Phenomenal. Ohio has a 30rd limit on magazines, but I'd love to get one.
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Old February 10, 2012, 01:31 PM   #456
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On the other end of the spectrum, I wish somebody made a 20 round mag. for these things!
I'm working on one, and fairly confident that I'll have one up and running as soon as work slows down and I have a chance to complete the project. If anyone is interested I can sell copies, but the price will be fairly costly as the parts required aren't notably cheap (but a lot less than $175.00...that I can guarantee). For those of you with the tools, time, and desire to give it a shot yourself, I will publish instructions for parts acquisition, fabrication, and assembly. If anyone really wants one, I might be able to make a few 15rnd copies as well (10rnd. magazines, in single or double stack configuration, are already available and will be less costly, so I haven't any plans to make any).

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Old February 23, 2012, 07:50 AM   #457
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How about .22l.r. adapter?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2whIGyeqG3Y
http://www.puskar.cz/prestashop/prod...?id_product=10
It fires from open bolt, so i suspect low accuracy, just convenient plinker. I need to try one somewhere.
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Old February 23, 2012, 09:08 AM   #458
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Neat concept, but I doubt that it will reach our shores due to firing from an open bolt (which the ATF strongly frowns upon).

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Old March 1, 2012, 05:01 PM   #459
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Some guy managed to get vz.58 drum stateside.

Too bad they are so expensive...
Sorry for thread archeology, but there is link to video I was searching for and couldnt find. And i cannot edit my old post anymore..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2I8Pv5Skb0
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Old March 1, 2012, 05:14 PM   #460
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No problem, Bohemus. If you did manage to edit your original post, less folks would notice it (doubt that I would). Thanks for adding.

I did note that the linked example has a LRBHO, so I assume that it's an original drum. I'm not positive, but I don't believe that the modified ones (created from 75rnd. AK drums) are capable of this function.

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Old March 1, 2012, 05:47 PM   #461
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There is no such thing as "original" drum for vz.58. There was only one mag. for it and others are just modifications. But it makes be wonder how did they manage to implant lrbho to it.
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Old March 1, 2012, 06:42 PM   #462
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Hmm, interesting development. I thought the same thing, but came to the conclusion that it had to be original equipment due to that feature. Hopefully the aforementioned one (from the link in post No. 452) also includes a LRBHO (though the photos don't appear to depict one).

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Old March 1, 2012, 07:24 PM   #463
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Sorry for thread archeology, but there is link to video I was searching for and couldnt find. And i cannot edit my old post anymore..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2I8Pv5Skb0
Welp, that was fun...

These things have a much higher cycle rate that I would have thought. Also, it managed to not jam at all! What a testimate to the drum conversion and the action itself, many people with AK/drum combos that I see at the range tend to have feed issues more often.

Has anyone dealt with the Bonesteel guys? Looks like they have some good stuff as far as muzzle breaks, I'll have to take a look after ordering a Czechpoint in a few weeks. Hopefully they have a decent turn around time.

On a related note, anyone have success having the tacked-on muzzle break removed and replaced with something else? Would most gunsmiths be capable/authorized to do this because of the SBR issue when the break is removed?

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Old March 1, 2012, 07:30 PM   #464
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Welcome to the club, barnbwt!

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Would most gunsmiths be capable/authorized to do this because of the SBR issue when the break is removed?
Yep, most any gunsmith should be able to take care of you. Can't help you with any of the details, as mine is still in stock configuration (and may very well remain as such), but there are scores of people that have completed the modification, and I have heard reports that it is a fairly easy task.

Good luck with your upcoming purchase, and keep us updated as to the results of your modifications.

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Old March 11, 2012, 02:44 PM   #465
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vz-58 in 9mm? I doubt it, but the Skorpion vz-61 might come in from CSA in 9x18mm to the US sometime soon.
Behold what appeared at IWA exhibition:-D
I admit its ugly as sin though.

And i dont like the odd mag - mag for cz scorpion would be much better - cheaper and it wouldnt require such long ugly mag well.
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Old March 11, 2012, 05:30 PM   #466
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I [mostly] like it. The magwell with long magazine is ugly, but I like the concept. It looks to be a perfect candidate for an SBR (particularly since it comes equipped with a gas block sight).

Do you happen to know type of magazines those are; proprietary?

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Old March 11, 2012, 06:01 PM   #467
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I have no idea, the gun is still not officially out and this is the only photo Ive seen, IWA took place this weekend so there may be more info soon. It should cost 2/3 the Scorpion does.
And also I would appreciate shorter barrel, 16" is quite pointles (But, in theory it could enable you to purchase JHP ammo for it).
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There's a barrel length requirement for JHP in the Czech Republic?

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Old March 11, 2012, 07:33 PM   #469
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JHP and any other expanding ammo is illegal for "short firearms" (barrel under 30cm and overall lenght 60cm) so you could carry JHP ammo in this 9mm vz.58 which is "long firearm", but not in CZ75... Makes no sense (thats what gun laws usually do).
But this belongs to different thread.
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Old March 11, 2012, 10:22 PM   #470
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Getting my Vz this week. After a very long time of drooling over the thought!
Just wondering what size (length) of scope I should be looking for. I will have the side mount on.....
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Old March 12, 2012, 04:07 AM   #471
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Nolan: lenth is not a problem, but you'll need deflector since vz. ejects up and forward.
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Old March 13, 2012, 04:59 PM   #472
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Too bad I can't read it!!!!
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Old March 13, 2012, 05:39 PM   #473
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But you can see the pictures and thats what I meant.
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Old March 13, 2012, 05:40 PM   #474
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Nolan, congrats on the new rifle.

Hopefully I didn't butcher it too bad...here goes:

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Cartridge deflector (shield) for POSP riflescopes:

This component directs thrown cartridge so that it did not reflect off of the riflescope (lens) and prevents damage. Prevents empty cartridges jammed between bolt, carrier, and riflescope, thus ensuring reliable operation of the weapon. It is designed for installation type SVD and AK.
Cartridge deflector is mounted between the base mounting bracket and sight tube (lens).
When removing the riflescope (lens) from the gun cartridges deflector stays on the gun.
When installation is necessary to reduce the top of the base assembly by 1 mm (deflector sheet thickness).
Unfortunately, I don't know where you might find the above shield (although it shouldn't be that difficult to fabricate). IMO the best option is a upper handguard replacement with a sturdy picatinny rail and mount a decent EER scope or red-dot.

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Old March 16, 2012, 09:39 PM   #475
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Does anyone here know where to purchase the side rails for these???
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