VZ.58 Club: - Page 6

Bennybone · January 3, 2011, 05:51 PM

Here is the latest setup, going to the range on Thursday to sight in the scope. I have never shot well with a red dot (no military training) so the consistency is not there for me. Hoping this pistol scope will do the trick. Plan to try and zero at 75 or 100 yards. Will post best grouping with new Military Classic (Wolf) JHP.

BB

2x - 7x illuminated reticle pistol scope, hopefully spent casings don't hit the scope...

Here is a view from the cheek rest of the fence in the backyard.

Maverick223 · January 3, 2011, 07:09 PM

Never tried a EER optic on one, but I don't believe you'll find a problem with your clearance (IIRC it ejects pretty much straight up (in other words, neither forward or back) and slightly to the rt. side.

armed hiker · January 4, 2011, 11:00 PM

Bennybone
That magazine length looks just about right on your gun, be sure to let us know how your mods work for you.

Spec ops Grunt · January 6, 2011, 09:27 AM

J&G sales has a sell going on for VZ 2008's.

http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/rif...page/1/sort/4a

Edit: It's cheaper than J&G's WASR prices! :O

TOU · January 6, 2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

VZ2008 Sporter 7.62x39 w/ Fixed Synthetic Stock & Milled Receiver, by CAI $429.95 $359.95

VZ2008 Sporter 7.62x39 w/ Fixed Wood Stock & Milled Receiver, by CAI (Backordered) $429.95 $359.95

VZ2008 Sporter 7.62x39 w/ Side Folding Stock & Milled receiver, by CAI $429.95 $359.95

I don't think there is any more CAI "monkey guns" for me...no matter what the price.

I think I would rather pay twice the price for a D-TECHNIK...JMHO.

GCMkc · January 6, 2011, 12:42 PM

I've gambled with the C93's from Century. If it doesn't work, just send it back in and they will send a new one. I think that these vz2008 sporters are almost too good to pass up at that price. If you get a lemon, send her back!

Bennybone · January 6, 2011, 08:43 PM

Today was the day at the range with the VZ58 and new scoped setup, I got to the range late so I didn't have as much time as I would have liked to further sight in the scope and concentrate on each and every shot. BUT no complaints any day at the range is a .....

ALL OF THE BELOW IS SEATED AND SUPPORTED 10 shots:

30 yards with the scope on 2x power:

50 yards with the scope on 5x power: (Two in bullseye, tried to higlight with offset color)

100 yards with scope at 7x power: (The range closed before I could make adjustment to come over to the right and try for a final grouping)

I'm happy, this was much easier than trying with open sights or red dot. Going pig hunting January 21 - 23rd hopefully I will have more photos then!!!

Maverick223 · January 6, 2011, 09:17 PM

Good luck with Mrs. Piggy, Bennybone.

Bennybone · January 21, 2011, 08:36 AM

Adding this information to this thread for historical reference related to Century Arms involvement with the VZ58. Earlier in this thread I covered my purchase of an early import Century rifle which I mistook for a VZ2008.

Century Arms was the original importer of the VZ58 and sold it under part number Ri-1309-N. They were only offered as Single Stack receiver with two 10 round mags (below)

Sometime later after they were no longer the importer, Century began offering their own build of the rifle made up of Czech used parts kits and US made barrels and receivers. These current rifles are sold under part number RI-1554-X, offered as folding stock or fixed stock double stack receivers with two 30 round mags (below)

Bennybone · January 21, 2011, 08:38 AM

Oh and if someone knows where I can buy more of the original Century guns (RI-1309-N's) PM me. Thx

Maverick223 · January 21, 2011, 10:10 PM

Thanks for sharing, Benny. I know this isn't much help, but I imagine that keeping an eye out for one on GB or GunsAmerica would be your best bet.

NWCP · January 22, 2011, 02:08 AM

I ended up dressing my CZ VZ58 with ZAHAL furnishings. It's as reliable as they come and battle accurate at 100 yards. I wouldn't own an AK after getting my VZ. The one ZAHAL addition that was really nice is the recoil reducing M4 adjustable stock. I'm going to have to take a photo sometime soon. The rifle really is worth the money, I would get one through Czechpoint since CZ quit selling them. Czechpoint was doing the builds for CZ anyway.

nalioth · January 22, 2011, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWCP

I would get one through Czechpoint since CZ quit selling them. Czechpoint was doing the builds for CZ anyway.

They're actually built in the former Czechoslovakia.

CZ-USA elected to stop selling them for some reason, and Czechpoint picked up the reins.

Bangzoom · January 22, 2011, 05:35 PM

I am the proud owner of this rifle with the natural beech wood furniture...took it to the range last weekend...cannot remember when I had more fun shooting. This is an awesome rifle...

(I noticed a couple of days after I ordered the rifle from Czechpoint, they posted the Military Classic (with natural wood) as Out of Stock.

Czechpoint is great to deal with too.

Thanks.

Bangzoom

Maverick223 · January 22, 2011, 05:44 PM

Bangzoom, welcome to the club, and to THR!

Bangzoom · January 22, 2011, 05:49 PM

Thanks Maverick!

Bangzoom

Bennybone · January 23, 2011, 09:51 PM

BangZoom, WELCOME !

I would like to see some pics of your acquisition, THANKS!

Maverick223 · January 24, 2011, 12:33 AM

+1, pics or your membership is eligible for revocation!

Bangzoom · January 24, 2011, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennybone

BangZoom, WELCOME !

I would like to see some pics of your acquisition, THANKS!

OK Bennybone....as soon as I can get a pic and figure out how to post it here...thanks!

BZ

abcdef · January 30, 2011, 08:24 PM

Thinking about getting a VA 58. Has anyone experienced any problems with the Czechpoint plastic parts like the trigger or mag follower/baseplates? How are these holding up? Are there any additional US parts available so that surplus mags may be used?

Thanks!

ifit · January 30, 2011, 10:42 PM

i have in upwards of 1k rounds + through my vz and never had any issues with the plastic trigger or floor plates. they do sell the steel triggers, i beleive czechpoint might have some plastic floor plates for sale

nalioth · January 31, 2011, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcdef

Thinking about getting a VA 58. Has anyone experienced any problems with the Czechpoint plastic parts like the trigger or mag follower/baseplates? How are these holding up? Are there any additional US parts available so that surplus mags may be used?

1) US made gas piston from hotbarrel (an individual) will add one US part
2) US made pistol grip from Ronin (another individual) will add one US part

These two additional US parts will allow you to use any magazine, provided you don't change any other US parts for foreign ones.

As far as the "plastic parts", it seems it's only the people who hate plastic guns who are doing the crying over them.

ifit · January 31, 2011, 10:35 PM

some pics i found, and hopefully some day a company will produce these for us, i would definately pick up a pistol version if offered, cannot own SBR where im from

5.56 version SBR

7.62, interesting how they mod the vz to accept ak mags

hell will even pick up a sniper version if offered, or is this a DMR?

armoredman · January 31, 2011, 11:05 PM

abcdef, a member that goes by obiwanbonjovi at czforumsite.info has USA made and marked gas pistons and steel triggers. We also have Niet Arms over there with Czechpoint. Neit has great ambi mag releases and bolt releases that are simply awesome.

Maverick223 · January 31, 2011, 11:45 PM

abcdef, I really like my Czech made VZ.58 (D-Technik/CZ-USA build imported my TDI), and have neither had nor seen of any problems with the plastic parts, though I can see where the floorplate might crack with a violent impact.

Thanks for the added info, nalioth and armoredman.

ifit, those are some pretty neat builds (FWIW I believe the long bbl'd variant is more of a DMR than a true sniper rifle)...especially the SBRs. While I have no interest in a 5.56NATO/.223Rem copy, one chambered for 5.45x39mm would make a nice plinker.

January 3, 2011, 07:09 PM	#127
Maverick223 Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 11,077	Never tried a EER optic on one, but I don't believe you'll find a problem with your clearance (IIRC it ejects pretty much straight up (in other words, neither forward or back) and slightly to the rt. side. __________________ Join us in the Rimfire Match! If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. - Ronald Reagan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

January 6, 2011, 09:27 AM	#129
Spec ops Grunt Member Join Date: October 14, 2005 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma Posts: 952	J&G sales has a sell going on for VZ 2008's. http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/rif...page/1/sort/4a Edit: It's cheaper than J&G's WASR prices! :O __________________ What is a Spec ops Grunt? I am not in any way affiliated with the military. *Life is composed of different inventions.-Mikhail Kalashnikov Last edited by Spec ops Grunt; January 6, 2011 at 10:03 AM.*

January 6, 2011, 09:17 PM	#133
Maverick223 Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 11,077	Good luck with Mrs. Piggy, Bennybone. __________________ Join us in the Rimfire Match! If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. - Ronald Reagan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

January 21, 2011, 10:10 PM	#136
Maverick223 Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 11,077	Thanks for sharing, Benny. I know this isn't much help, but I imagine that keeping an eye out for one on GB or GunsAmerica would be your best bet. __________________ Join us in the Rimfire Match! If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. - Ronald Reagan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

January 22, 2011, 05:35 PM	#139
Bangzoom Member Join Date: January 22, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 14	vz 58 I am the proud owner of this rifle with the natural beech wood furniture...took it to the range last weekend...cannot remember when I had more fun shooting. This is an awesome rifle... (I noticed a couple of days after I ordered the rifle from Czechpoint, they posted the Military Classic (with natural wood) as Out of Stock. Czechpoint is great to deal with too. Thanks. Bangzoom

January 3, 2011, 05:51 PM	#126
Bennybone Member Join Date: December 9, 2010 Posts: 57	Here is the latest setup, going to the range on Thursday to sight in the scope. I have never shot well with a red dot (no military training) so the consistency is not there for me. Hoping this pistol scope will do the trick. Plan to try and zero at 75 or 100 yards. Will post best grouping with new Military Classic (Wolf) JHP. BB 2x - 7x illuminated reticle pistol scope, hopefully spent casings don't hit the scope... Here is a view from the cheek rest of the fence in the backyard.

January 4, 2011, 11:00 PM	#128
armed hiker Member Join Date: December 22, 2010 Posts: 32	Bennybone That magazine length looks just about right on your gun, be sure to let us know how your mods work for you.

January 6, 2011, 12:42 PM	#131
GCMkc Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 270	I've gambled with the C93's from Century. If it doesn't work, just send it back in and they will send a new one. I think that these vz2008 sporters are almost too good to pass up at that price. If you get a lemon, send her back!

January 6, 2011, 08:43 PM	#132
Bennybone Member Join Date: December 9, 2010 Posts: 57	Today was the day at the range with the VZ58 and new scoped setup, I got to the range late so I didn't have as much time as I would have liked to further sight in the scope and concentrate on each and every shot. BUT no complaints any day at the range is a ..... ALL OF THE BELOW IS SEATED AND SUPPORTED 10 shots: 30 yards with the scope on 2x power: 50 yards with the scope on 5x power: (Two in bullseye, tried to higlight with offset color) 100 yards with scope at 7x power: (The range closed before I could make adjustment to come over to the right and try for a final grouping) I'm happy, this was much easier than trying with open sights or red dot. Going pig hunting January 21 - 23rd hopefully I will have more photos then!!!

January 21, 2011, 08:36 AM	#134
Bennybone Member Join Date: December 9, 2010 Posts: 57	Adding this information to this thread for historical reference related to Century Arms involvement with the VZ58. Earlier in this thread I covered my purchase of an early import Century rifle which I mistook for a VZ2008. Century Arms was the original importer of the VZ58 and sold it under part number Ri-1309-N. They were only offered as Single Stack receiver with two 10 round mags (below) Sometime later after they were no longer the importer, Century began offering their own build of the rifle made up of Czech used parts kits and US made barrels and receivers. These current rifles are sold under part number RI-1554-X, offered as folding stock or fixed stock double stack receivers with two 30 round mags (below)

January 21, 2011, 08:38 AM	#135
Bennybone Member Join Date: December 9, 2010 Posts: 57	Oh and if someone knows where I can buy more of the original Century guns (RI-1309-N's) PM me. Thx

January 22, 2011, 02:08 AM	#137
NWCP Member Join Date: October 2, 2008 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 449	I ended up dressing my CZ VZ58 with ZAHAL furnishings. It's as reliable as they come and battle accurate at 100 yards. I wouldn't own an AK after getting my VZ. The one ZAHAL addition that was really nice is the recoil reducing M4 adjustable stock. I'm going to have to take a photo sometime soon. The rifle really is worth the money, I would get one through Czechpoint since CZ quit selling them. Czechpoint was doing the builds for CZ anyway.

January 22, 2011, 05:44 PM	#140
Maverick223 Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 11,077	Bangzoom, welcome to the club, and to THR! __________________ Join us in the Rimfire Match! If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. - Ronald Reagan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

January 22, 2011, 05:49 PM	#141
Bangzoom Member Join Date: January 22, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 14	vz 58 Thanks Maverick! Bangzoom

January 23, 2011, 09:51 PM	#142
Bennybone Member Join Date: December 9, 2010 Posts: 57	BangZoom, WELCOME ! I would like to see some pics of your acquisition, THANKS!

January 24, 2011, 12:33 AM	#143
Maverick223 Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 11,077	+1, pics or your membership is eligible for revocation! __________________ Join us in the Rimfire Match! If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. - Ronald Reagan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

January 30, 2011, 08:24 PM	#145
abcdef Member Join Date: October 24, 2004 Posts: 14	Questions Thinking about getting a VA 58. Has anyone experienced any problems with the Czechpoint plastic parts like the trigger or mag follower/baseplates? How are these holding up? Are there any additional US parts available so that surplus mags may be used? Thanks!

January 30, 2011, 10:42 PM	#146
ifit Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 722	i have in upwards of 1k rounds + through my vz and never had any issues with the plastic trigger or floor plates. they do sell the steel triggers, i beleive czechpoint might have some plastic floor plates for sale

January 31, 2011, 10:35 PM	#148
ifit Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 722	some pics i found, and hopefully some day a company will produce these for us, i would definately pick up a pistol version if offered, cannot own SBR where im from 5.56 version SBR 7.62, interesting how they mod the vz to accept ak mags hell will even pick up a sniper version if offered, or is this a DMR?

January 31, 2011, 11:05 PM	#149
armoredman Member Join Date: November 19, 2003 Location: proud to be in AZ Posts: 14,986	abcdef, a member that goes by obiwanbonjovi at czforumsite.info has USA made and marked gas pistons and steel triggers. We also have Niet Arms over there with Czechpoint. Neit has great ambi mag releases and bolt releases that are simply awesome. __________________ If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous? http://czfirearms.us/ The original CZ Forum, new address.

January 31, 2011, 11:45 PM	#150
Maverick223 Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 11,077	abcdef, I really like my Czech made VZ.58 (D-Technik/CZ-USA build imported my TDI), and have neither had nor seen of any problems with the plastic parts, though I can see where the floorplate might crack with a violent impact. Thanks for the added info, nalioth and armoredman. ifit, those are some pretty neat builds (FWIW I believe the long bbl'd variant is more of a DMR than a true sniper rifle)...especially the SBRs. While I have no interest in a 5.56NATO/.223Rem copy, one chambered for 5.45x39mm would make a nice plinker. __________________ Join us in the Rimfire Match! If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. - Ronald Reagan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ