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Old January 15, 2014, 02:32 AM   #1
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Aftermarket Ruger Old Army internals?

Now that I read parts are essentially not available any more from Ruger for our beloved Old Army's, I wonder what we are to do when small parts in the lockwork fail as they eventually will with use. Pawls, cylinder bolt stops, triggers, hammers and such worry me. I have three Old Army's, but the idea of losing a functional gun because of small part breakage concerns me. Are any aftermarket manufacturers planning to make replacement parts you all think? DOn
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Old January 15, 2014, 08:47 AM   #2
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roa parts

Don't tear your hair out just yet.Ruger does not have any parts available to sell,but if you have a broken ROA and call Ruger to get approval to ship it to them they have everything still in their service dept.I sent one in last year with a broken base pin it came back looking brand new and they didn't even charge me anything.They really care about their products and customers.
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Old January 15, 2014, 09:03 AM   #3
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Send it to Ruger. Just because they're not selling parts does not mean they do not have any.
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Old January 15, 2014, 11:17 AM   #4
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There's maybe 2 companies that make custom parts as well, but this was some time back, and it was questionable then when I was looking for a base pin as I bent the heck out of mine. The two places I contacted didn't have them, and I found I could bend mine back into working shape.

If you'd like I'll go through those old threads and see if I can find them.
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Old January 15, 2014, 12:28 PM   #5
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I appreciate the information folks. It's reassuring. Right now all three of my garden variety stainless 7.5 inch adjustable sight versions are fine. But as I have read about with other popular gun makes, once they are out of production the parts needed to keep them running disappear over time. I know that I could cannibalize one to keep another going, but that would be a shame to have to do so.
Careful use and care will help me keep everything fine I know, and I refuse to avoid using any of them. I was admiring one of mine last night though and began thinking "what if". Thanks again all. Don
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Old January 15, 2014, 01:37 PM   #6
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I have called Ruger twice in the past 4 or 5 months, the last time today. I told them that I had an old army that was handed down to me and needed service. The lady told me they don't work on them anymore and don't have any parts. She said I could send the gun in and they would sell me a new gun for 20% over their cost. She said to try Numerich for parts.

I wish they would bring back the old army.
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Old January 15, 2014, 01:47 PM   #7
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Old January 15, 2014, 01:51 PM   #8
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...or rather they offering to take your ROA in trade for a current model at their cost + 20%. Hmmmm
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Old January 15, 2014, 02:47 PM   #9
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I've called Ruger and have talked to reps who have given me conflicting stories about parts, repairs, etc.

Don't always believe what the first one tells you. Talk to a tech person or gunsmith there, if possible.
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Old January 15, 2014, 03:12 PM   #10
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Well, I have talked to two different persons on two different occasions and both stated that they had no parts and that they can no longer service them. Now, I don't know if they just don't like my southern accent, but that's what I was told.

I would be very interested if Ruger told someone else something different recently.
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Old January 15, 2014, 03:28 PM   #11
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It'll be alright. Good Lord, some folks have guns that have been out of production for A LOT longer than the Old Army has. Guns they made a lot fewer of to boot!
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Old January 15, 2014, 07:13 PM   #12
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I used this situation to buy a couple more Old Armies as "parts guns" for the ones I use in cowboy action competition. It's a good enough rationalization to buy another fine revolver.
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Old January 15, 2014, 07:45 PM   #13
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It isn't just the old army percussion guns that this problem exists around. All the old three screw guns are in the same boat....more or less. While SOME parts are available, most are not but there is some solution for a lot of breakdowns. The hand from a new version can be substituted by mere modification....just grind the tail section and fit to suit. If one has a converted three screw that was returned with the original parts and wishes to keep the original configuration then you have in hand the makings of a very usable old style trigger as well........again, just grind the transfer bar extension off and fit it to your needs.

Yeah, it does work. I did precisely as described for both a flat top .44 that I had to get converted in order to get Ruger to refinish it....Same situation with a 1973 .41. Less a complete takedown you cannot tell that a re conversion with modified parts was done.

Hammers tho, could be a real problem, but I suspect that someone with really creative welding skills could even solve that issue.
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Old January 16, 2014, 03:15 AM   #14
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Did they stop making the blackhawk?

I thought i read on here that the ROA was built from left over blackhawk parts or something?
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Old January 16, 2014, 11:13 PM   #15
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"The lady told me they don't work on them anymore and don't have any parts. She said I could send the gun in and they would sell me a new gun for 20% over their cost."


Except they have not made them in years, so....

So... there's a miscommunication here someplace.


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Old January 17, 2014, 11:40 AM   #16
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Sorry for the misleading statement. I was told that I could buy any current production gun for 20% over Ruger's cost.
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Old October 10, 2014, 01:32 PM   #17
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Hey guys, I'm new to THR and am not sure if this is where I need to mention this or not, but we have just finished a successful reproduction of the stainless steel base pins that are a direct copy of the ORIGINAL ROA base pin. They are listed here if anyone is interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ruger-Stainl...e=STRK:MESE:IT eBay Item # 111482938034. Thanks and have a great day - Evan

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Old October 10, 2014, 01:39 PM   #18
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Nice! And thanks for making those!

I bent mine the first day out. Fortunately I was able to bend it back fairly straight.

Do you guys make any other ROA parts? I've been wanting a Bisley type hammer but cannot seem to find anyone who makes them.
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Old October 10, 2014, 01:46 PM   #19
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check here
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufact...Army-38339.htm
http://www.classicballistx.com/ ruger old army specialists
Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc., Service Department, 411 Sunapee Street, Newport, New Hampshire 03773, 603-863-3300.
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Old October 10, 2014, 05:41 PM   #20
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I f there were something broken in one of my ROAs, I would just send it to Ruger with "WARRANTY REPAIR" on the box and a note enclosed as to the problem.
I would almost bet that they would send it back at no charge with the repair completed.

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Old October 10, 2014, 09:01 PM   #21
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A Ruger BREAK? Come on, REALLY?
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Old October 10, 2014, 09:23 PM   #22
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KISS......the basic rule for ROAs.....few parts....very robust....mine as been shot continueously since 1974......I do not see needing any parts for it...in my lifetime
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Old October 10, 2014, 10:46 PM   #23
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The ROA's are indeed made from Blackhawk parts, but the 3 screw version, but Ruger still makes parts for their old 3 screw models, so many internal parts will be available for years to come. They modified the frame for the ram and the hammer for caps and to avoid ATF problems.
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Old October 10, 2014, 10:49 PM   #24
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In addition to the ROA, I've owned or own 11 other Rugers, currently have 8. The only thing that ever broke on one of 'em is the magazine release return spring on my KP90DC which just HAS to be the wimpiest part on any Ruger firearm. LOL Ruger had another in the mail within 3 days. I've got two Blackhawks and the ROA in my current inventory.

I'd call and ask for the techs in repairs, not talk to a phone answerer receptionist or something..
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Old October 12, 2014, 11:00 AM   #25
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Hello folks,
since the thread is about Rugers I would like to add this question. I have an ROA and a Blackhawk that are need of rebluing after surviving a house fire. My LGS said it takes a long time for Ruger to do this (4 or 5 months). Dose anyone have any experience with this?
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