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#551 |
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Join Date: October 18, 2009
Location: Bowling Green Ky.
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#552 |
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Join Date: April 12, 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,105
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ROA Club Members:
1. ClemBert 2. Eights 3. kanook 4. kwhi43@kc.rr.com 5. mykeal 6. adaptandovercome 7. 461 8. junkman_01 9. lonewolf5347 10. rcflint 11. MCgunner 12.madcratebuilder 13. AbitNutz 14. eastbank 15. robert garner 16. philuk44 17. HUnter58 18. arcticap 19. BullRunBear 20. theotherwaldo 21. SC Slowhand 22. Prairie Dawg 23. wittzo 24. Tallbald 25. Smokin_Gun 26. OB One 27. jungle 28. plumbernater 29. daveinvegas 30. JanZ 31. George Mabry 32. Benmathes 33. Loosenock 34. higene 35. Rock Island 36. Erich 37. robhof 38. J-Bar 39. Nomad, 2nd 40. TAURUSBOB 41. martindl99 42. Vermonter 43. wasatch 44. fogg64 45. BConklin 46. Howdy Doody 47. bushrod2 48. rdstrain49 49. FirinFlatTop 50. rem1858 51. straight-shooter 52. edorfox 53. KevininPa 54. Ringo1234 55. pohill 56. The Don 57. jeepcoma 58. Dave Markowitz 59. Chazz 60. andrewstorm 61. Steel Wheels 62. Legionnaire 63. NineMilePete 64. 94RUGER 65. Acorn Mush 66. R.Ganister 67. Boom-stick 68. Buddy 69. Ghost Dog 70. BML 71. Cult of 1858 72. Jaymo 73. bigbore442001 74. Engineer Bill 75. azyogi 76. Dr. Leaky 77. Clermont 78. Indy4570 79. ozarkguy 80. Plastikosmd 81. mrdo1 82. bax504 83. Constrictor 84. BC Mosaic 85. clepidus Welcome clepidus. Nice commemorative! Yup, if it's been shot then it's a shooter. Just take good care of it so it doesn't get ragged out. |
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Join Date: September 11, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 72
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#554 |
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Join Date: August 21, 2010
Posts: 2,601
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Just convert it to DAO. Then you won't need a spur.
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#555 |
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Join Date: September 1, 2009
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 10
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Hello All,
Thanks for all the suggestions. I was absolutely sure nobody knew about them kittens. I know a great welder who described how to prep for welding - grind away each side of the hammer and spur at a 45degree angle save an 1/8 inch strip down the center of each to interlock and make sure they are exactly in the original relationship. The welds were over filled so I'd have plenty to file off and get back to a nice flat surface, had it apart so I jeweled the hammer sides - chuck a pencil, eraser side down, in the drill press add some valve grinding compound. Do practice on something else first. Happy New Year - I'm back in business - Engineer Bill
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#556 |
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Join Date: July 30, 2006
Location: Johnson City, TN
Posts: 11,261
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I bought one in 2002 to play with. I had some fun with it, but shooting cap-and-ball with real black powder makes one very appreciative of the self-contained, smokeless powder cartridge.
I found it very accurate (until the bore started to foul, whereupon a quick cleaning would restore the accuracy) while still delivering some kick with 35 grains of powder. Something else I noted was that the recommended #10 caps didn't work very well. I was unable to push them hard enough onto the nipples with my fingers, and when I fired the gun, it took two "trips" around the cylinder before the hammer drove the caps down enough to seat and fire them. Number eleven caps solved that problem.
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Join Date: April 12, 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,105
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Someone get a rope! ![]() Who says you can't shoot a ROA with cartridges? Watch and learn grasshopper: Ruger Old Army shooting BP Cartridges
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#558 |
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Join Date: December 30, 2011
Posts: 7
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Well.... It did at least shoot nice!
I went out to the ranch to shoot the new addition to my collection and fell in love with it. It will not be sold while I am alive! I only got six shots off as when loading I realized the previous owner screwed up and neglected to use a starter to get the ball in the cylinder causing the center pin to bend. They then obviously attempted to bend it back into shape so when I went to push my load down, it bent even more.
It wasn't to big of a deal, I removed the rod and all the loading assembly, and straightened it out again. I loaded the cylinder out of the weapon and then reassembled without the loading pieces. It shot like a dream. It was extremely accurate and very comfortable to shoot. As soon as I got home I started searching for the center pin and found it at Numrich and it should be here early next week if not sooner. I look forward to learning from some of you more experienced ROA shooters! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! |
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#559 |
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Join Date: March 21, 2011
Posts: 506
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A ball starter? For a revolver??? And I thought I heard the loading ram on the ROA was supposed to be (figuratively) bulletproof?
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Join Date: March 20, 2005
Location: Central Connecticut
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Join Date: April 12, 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,105
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clepidus, some of us can't figure out if you are talking about the base pin, the rammer, or the loading lever. The base pin goes through the middle of the cylinder. The rammer is what makes contact with the ball to push it in. The loading lever is what you grab with your hand to actuate the rammer.
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#562 |
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Join Date: November 24, 2010
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 980
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I have a hunch the base pin bent because the base pin retaining pin was not locked and allowed the base pin to come out part ways when attempting to seat a ball. Don't ask me how I know.
If you have to use a ball starter, your balls are much to hard. Use pure lead balls in the ROA. Save the wheelweight castings for bullets in cartridges. |
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Join Date: December 3, 2005
Location: The end of the road between Sodom and Gomorrah Texas
Posts: 21,722
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I have no problems seating .457" conicals in my ROA cast of wheel weights. Most are cast of range scrap, anymore, alloy unknown, but they work fine.
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#564 |
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Join Date: September 26, 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 527
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Yep, if'n ya doin lock the cylinder pin it will back out an get bent. doin ax hows I knows.
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#565 |
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Join Date: December 30, 2011
Posts: 7
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The bent pin was just a guess from what I saw in the mechanics. I am sure you are right about locking the pin in. I was shooting Hornady .457 round balls and they went in pretty smooth after I started them with the starter from my old Optima . 50 cal. I have a lot to learn and will probably buy a 45 LC conversion kit.i am learning more each time I flip through this forum. Any recommendations on where the most cost effective kit is?
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Join Date: April 12, 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,105
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ROA Club Members:
1. ClemBert 2. Eights 3. kanook 4. kwhi43@kc.rr.com 5. mykeal 6. adaptandovercome 7. 461 8. junkman_01 9. lonewolf5347 10. rcflint 11. MCgunner 12.madcratebuilder 13. AbitNutz 14. eastbank 15. robert garner 16. philuk44 17. HUnter58 18. arcticap 19. BullRunBear 20. theotherwaldo 21. SC Slowhand 22. Prairie Dawg 23. wittzo 24. Tallbald 25. Smokin_Gun 26. OB One 27. jungle 28. plumbernater 29. daveinvegas 30. JanZ 31. George Mabry 32. Benmathes 33. Loosenock 34. higene 35. Rock Island 36. Erich 37. robhof 38. J-Bar 39. Nomad, 2nd 40. TAURUSBOB 41. martindl99 42. Vermonter 43. wasatch 44. fogg64 45. BConklin 46. Howdy Doody 47. bushrod2 48. rdstrain49 49. FirinFlatTop 50. rem1858 51. straight-shooter 52. edorfox 53. KevininPa 54. Ringo1234 55. pohill 56. The Don 57. jeepcoma 58. Dave Markowitz 59. Chazz 60. andrewstorm 61. Steel Wheels 62. Legionnaire 63. NineMilePete 64. 94RUGER 65. Acorn Mush 66. R.Ganister 67. Boom-stick 68. Buddy 69. Ghost Dog 70. BML 71. Cult of 1858 72. Jaymo 73. bigbore442001 74. Engineer Bill 75. azyogi 76. Dr. Leaky 77. Clermont 78. Indy4570 79. ozarkguy 80. Plastikosmd 81. mrdo1 82. bax504 83. Constrictor 84. BC Mosaic 85. clepidus 86. did Welcome did! I like that brass square back frame. Nice grips too!
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Join Date: April 12, 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,105
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As for a 45 Colt conversion cylinder for your ROA you have two choices. One made by Kirst or one made by Howell. Those are the only choices. There are numerous retail sources from which to purchase the conversion cylinder from such as MidwayUSA. I made a video to show the details of using a ROA conversion cylinder. p.s. I find the Hornady 0.457 round balls rather easy to ram into the cylinder. There is no reason to use a "ball starter". They just slide in rather easy and shave a nice lead ring. Last edited by ClemBert; January 6, 2012 at 09:36 AM. |
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Join Date: March 20, 2005
Location: Central Connecticut
Posts: 6,176
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Belt Mountain makes a replacement cylinder base pin for the ROA but it doesn't work with the rammer.
It's used alone and is primarily designed for use with conversion cylinders when the rammer is not needed. It can make for a quicker cylinder change without needing to fumble with the rammer assembly. It's a precision made pin, and if you don't mind loading off the frame then it will work fine with the ROA's C&B cylinder. It's listed near the bottom of this page: http://www.beltmountain.com/ruger.htm Belt Mountain home Page: http://www.beltmountain.com/ It's on back order at MidwayUSA: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/689...tainless-steel Last edited by arcticap; January 5, 2012 at 12:31 PM. |
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#570 |
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Join Date: December 30, 2011
Posts: 7
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I screwed up...
I thought I ordered the base pin but it was actually the base pin retainer. Oh well back to square one. If anybody has one they would like to sell, please let me know.
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#571 |
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Join Date: December 30, 2011
Posts: 7
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ClemBert, the pin was already bent to start with because I had some resistance when disassembling for my initial inspection and even more when I put it together. After reading through the previous posts in the forum though, I have no doubt that I did not have the retaining pin locked and that I bent it even more. I have straightened it to at least close to the condition I received it in though.
I am slightly irritated with my mistake and very willing to pay for the replacement parts as well as a conversion kit since my actual cost on this piece was less than $20.00. I was purchasing a dresser on craigslist to replace the one my children destroyed and when I went to pick it up from an older woman, it was found while removing the drawers for transport. She told me it must have belonged to her husband who passed away a few months earlier and to keep it. Anyway, Im going to order a conversion kit next payday but would still like the original part as well. |
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#572 |
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Join Date: May 22, 2008
Posts: 226
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It appears Numrich Arms bought out Ruger's Old Army spare parts. Numrich's website lists the loading lever, in both blue and stainless, for the 7-1/2" barrel. Give Numrich a call, you may get lucky.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/...spx?catid=8347 |
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Join Date: April 12, 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,105
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#574 |
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Join Date: October 18, 2009
Location: Bowling Green Ky.
Posts: 758
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I bent mine when I 1st got it and while waiting for a replacement, I put the pin on a lead ingot and tapped with a hammer as I rotated it. It works fine and I still have the replacement for backup. That's been 5 yrs. since I did that and she's still working fine.
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Join Date: May 22, 2008
Posts: 226
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http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/...790&catid=8347 http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/...780&catid=8347 |
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