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Old November 22, 2013, 11:42 PM   #1751
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OK. A happy story of an Old Army coming back home. Will try to keep it shorter than I posted on another fine forum. Back in early spring , my loving wife and I found ourselves in need of a little extra money to buy her insulin and pay car insurance. We live on retirement and a little savings, and she is in the "doughnut hole" on medicare paying toward her medicines. Despite her protests, I put up one of my three stainless ROA's. This one was a pre-billboard 1978ish beauty I had given a high polish to remove years of tiny scratches. It sold quickly on consignment at a LGS, and the $500 it brought helped a lot.
Monday of this week my wife and I visited the LGS again to browse and say hello. In the case was a beautifully polished ROA stainless that I asked to see, and sure enough it was my old gun. The tag was $515 plus tax, and although my loving wife said "Don buy it back!" I declined, even though we have since payed off a hospital bill and built up some savings. She urged me again at home, so I caved in and called to offer $500 out the door and it was accepted. The beautiful thing is that the fella who bought my ROA, enjoyed it and traded it back in, had fitted the gun with a beautiful set of Altamont imitation ivory grips that some wonderfully talented artist had scrimshaw ornamented in a period motif. The "S" on the grip is also my initial. The gun also has its original walnut Ruger grips from 78 I sold it with and with the gun came a rather basic hand made made holster.
So happy to have the ROA back. My wife says the "S" on the scrimshaw grips means this whole situation was meant to happen. Thanks for looking. Don


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Old November 23, 2013, 12:00 AM   #1752
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Anyone here have a photo of a bead front sighted ROA?

I may have asked a similar question long ago, but am not sure. I wish the front sight on my ROA's was a drilled and tapped ramp like on Single Sixes. I could adapt any number of bead front sights from other guns to my ROA's. I guess I just need to keep brain storming. Thank you. Don
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Old November 23, 2013, 10:45 AM   #1753
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You came out ahead on that deal. Very odd that a dealer takes a "beating" on a gun. Extra grips, same amount of $$ but inflation has made the original $500 worth more in buying power. Big thumbs up!
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Old November 23, 2013, 03:15 PM   #1754
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Ruger old army club

My ruger old army with african wild olive wood grips and holster I made.
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Old November 23, 2013, 08:33 PM   #1755
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Patocazodor I think the difference is that I sold on consignment giving him 10 percent of my selling price, but he took it back in on trade probably at some less than 90 percent of his selling price. Just my guess, but I doubt he simply traded money because the shop is a fair but strong business. Either way, I'm quite happy to have Larry back. I had named my three ROA's Moe, Larry and Curly. Don
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Old November 24, 2013, 12:47 PM   #1756
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How come Larry was curly-headed and Curly was bald? One of life's mysteries.
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Old November 24, 2013, 08:07 PM   #1757
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I suppose for the same reason we park on the driveway and drive on the parkway. And have "Jumbo shrimp".
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Old November 25, 2013, 09:55 AM   #1758
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Jannas nice rig and grips. Tallbald congrats on getting your lost piece back.
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Old November 25, 2013, 11:36 AM   #1759
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OK. A happy story of an Old Army coming back home. Will try to keep it shorter than I posted on another fine forum. Back in early spring , my loving wife and I found ourselves in need of a little extra money to buy her insulin and pay car insurance. We live on retirement and a little savings, and she is in the "doughnut hole" on medicare paying toward her medicines. Despite her protests, I put up one of my three stainless ROA's. This one was a pre-billboard 1978ish beauty I had given a high polish to remove years of tiny scratches. It sold quickly on consignment at a LGS, and the $500 it brought helped a lot.
Monday of this week my wife and I visited the LGS again to browse and say hello. In the case was a beautifully polished ROA stainless that I asked to see, and sure enough it was my old gun. The tag was $515 plus tax, and although my loving wife said "Don buy it back!" I declined, even though we have since payed off a hospital bill and built up some savings. She urged me again at home, so I caved in and called to offer $500 out the door and it was accepted. The beautiful thing is that the fella who bought my ROA, enjoyed it and traded it back in, had fitted the gun with a beautiful set of Altamont imitation ivory grips that some wonderfully talented artist had scrimshaw ornamented in a period motif. The "S" on the grip is also my initial. The gun also has its original walnut Ruger grips from 78 I sold it with and with the gun came a rather basic hand made made holster.
So happy to have the ROA back. My wife says the "S" on the scrimshaw grips means this whole situation was meant to happen. Thanks for looking. Don


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Old November 26, 2013, 12:57 AM   #1760
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old army club

Thanx toolslinger, would really like some stag grips but completely unavailable over here. I did manage to buy a very nice full flap holster from a gentleman in Ohio. Does anyone know of a source that would ship a 45LC converter cylinder to South Africa?
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Old November 26, 2013, 12:04 PM   #1761
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Ruger Old Army conversion 45LC cylinder

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Does anyone know of a source that would ship a stainless 45LC conversion cylinder to South Africa???
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Old November 26, 2013, 04:09 PM   #1762
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www.midwayusa.com sells them. I don't know if they will ship to So. Africa.

Stag grips should be available from India (sambar). There's a large Indian population in Durban and you may be able to score the raw material there. I know it's not around the corner but placing some inquiries won't hurt.
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Old November 26, 2013, 08:27 PM   #1763
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Old November 27, 2013, 05:51 PM   #1764
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My guess is that I would qualify, Purchased around 1989.
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Old December 1, 2013, 04:49 PM   #1765
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My 7 1/2" 1977 ROA inherited from my uncle Pete 15 years ago. Got it filthy again today, and shot some decent holes in some paper plate targets with RBs. Last plate is 6 balls into 5 holes. I've got the loading thing down; now it's time to streamline the cleaning process.

I'll get pics up of my 2 more recent, unfired (for now) 5 1/2" fixed sight beauties.





Amazing thread by the way; lots of info and quite a bunch of knowledgeable folks here! Oh and some great ROA pics too!

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Old December 1, 2013, 05:22 PM   #1766
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Thankfully I'm a better shooter than a photographer.

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Old December 2, 2013, 01:15 AM   #1767
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rockdc, very nice guns. I too suffer from lack of photo-ability.
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Old December 2, 2013, 10:04 AM   #1768
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The "Cisco Kid" there looks like he could be in trouble.
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Old December 3, 2013, 09:36 AM   #1769
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Old December 3, 2013, 01:31 PM   #1770
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rockdc very nice guns, nothing wrong with the picture!!! Like the grip on the blue Ruger, is it factory or aftermarket and what wood is that?? Got some new cocobolo grips for my ROA today from a guy in Costa Rica that trades on ebay, very nice with a super gloss finish that he puts on them and for $20 I think it's a steal.
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Old December 3, 2013, 05:04 PM   #1771
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Jannas,

Thanks! I don't know what wood that is, but those are the nicest of my 3 sets of grips.

Now I'm off to ebay to find he guy you mentioned.
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Old December 3, 2013, 06:03 PM   #1772
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what size Lubrisizer die?

abitnutz; I pulled up this old post of yours (#767), and I'm looking at casting some of those hollow point and flat point DD-ROA FLAT Big Lube LLC 210 grain bullets. There are plenty of options in dies from RCBS; which is right for the ROA? And, is it the same size for "in the cylinder" loading as well as for in a 45 LC cartridge, since a Kirst Konverter is also next on my list? Thanks, by the way, for all of your super informative posts!

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I never really looked for conical bullets at the big box gun stores. They never jumped out of me so they really may not have them. I bought some "buffalo" brand bullets on line but I think they may be gone now. Even so, they were crazy expensive but were really nicely made and quite accurate

I always cast my own now but when I first got my ROA I wasn't sure how much I would shoot it, so I bought them on line.
Track of the Wolf has some. And if you got to BigLube.com, he lists several casters of his bullets http://www.biglube.com/Links.aspx

Now, my all time favorite load is a "DD-ROA FLAT Big LubeŽLLC 210 grain six cavity mold for ROA" that I had half the cavities converted to Hollow Point by HP Mold service. Eric from HP Mold Service, he sends along some nose punches that lets you use an RCBS type lubrisizer.

So, just mail order them from the list.....

But all of that plus the lead pot requires true commitment.

One last word of advice, if you haven't found this out yet...you'll need a loader. Loading conical bullets with a ram on the gun isn't pracical
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Old December 3, 2013, 06:33 PM   #1773
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grip switch time on the 2 safe queens ( not for long)



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Old December 3, 2013, 07:06 PM   #1774
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So here's an interesting thing about the ROA when you use a cylinder conversion like the Kirst. (I like the Kirst best..just my preference).

The ROA barrel is at .452. The ROA cylinder is .4525+or-.005. The Kirst cylinder is the same, .4525+or-.005.

However, in the ROA cylinder, you size your soft lead bullet to .454-5 (I size to .455). It will swage down to the exact cylinder size and work peachy. If you cast too hard an alloy, you have fits forcing it in the cylinder, put strain on the ram and generally mangle the bullet trying to get it in.

Using the Kirst cylinder, you size to .452 with harder lead. You don't need to swage it into the cylinder as it's going in a cartridge case. In revolver cartridges it's best to size the bullet to the cylinder throat diameter or some say, .001 over. Thank god the ROA and Kirst cylinders are sized to the barrel ID!

You can come to grief on revolvers that have mismatched barrel ID's and throat diameters. I have an 8-3/8" S&W 25-5 in 45LC. The barrel ID is .452 and the cylinder throats are .458! If you size to .452 it will shoot just about anywhere except where you aim it. If you size to .458 it will lead the barrel from back to front almost immediately and accuracy quickly falls to horseshoe pitching levels. The half-a$$ed thing that sorta works is sizing to .455 with super hard, pure linotype, water quenched bullets. I finally found another cylinder that was at .452 and wonder of wonders...it shoots very nicely.

I hope this helps...your mileage may vary...
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so...., I really need a .452 and a .454 lubri-sizer die from RCBS? I don't see anything at .455.

https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Mai...060&route=.C12
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