642 Club Part Three - Page 15

Scott30 · January 31, 2011, 03:00 PM

I doubt you would get much improvement in the trigger pull since you have X,000 dry fires. Much of a trigger job is polishing the surfaces and you have done that naturally. You could change the rebound spring and hammer spring yourself with a Wolfe spring kit. Makes a huge difference. While you have the side plate off, get rid of all the factory lube with Brakeleen and relube. God luck.

Yukon Gold · January 31, 2011, 03:27 PM

Please add me as your newest member

41 · January 31, 2011, 03:46 PM

Welcome to the club and forum Yukon. I've had mine for just over a month, and I really like it. I had trouble shooting accurately at first but then I found these tips and it has really helped tighten my groups. http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/.../miculek2.html.

And the guys and girls on this forum are great they can answer pretty much any kind of gun question that you may have.

308win · January 31, 2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dloy

My 642 trigger has improved considerably over the last couple years with X,000 dry fires. Still, recently I've been contemplating a trigger job for further improvement either by the PC or a recommended gunsmith. After research (much here) I see the consensus is: don't do it, the liability is not worth the risk and when the SHTF, you don't need it anyway. I am good with that decision but thought I'd just get confirmation. I am not trying to lighten the pull necessarily but more likely smooth it further. (And no, I am not interested in switching to an LCR)
Thanks for any input.

The 642 isn't a target revolver. You have polished the bearing surfaces. You can have a pistol smith change the action geometry or sear surfaces or you can install different springs and chance the results but why? It is a handgun intended for self defense at close distances; none of these modifications will enhance that functionality and may impair it.

SOUTHPAW · January 31, 2011, 03:59 PM

I just noticed a spark from the firing pin when dry firing... Is this normal?

SOUTHPAW · January 31, 2011, 06:31 PM

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I just noticed a spark from the firing pin when dry firing... Is this normal?

Anyone?

308win · January 31, 2011, 07:21 PM

That silence you see is 100's of 642 owners sitting in dark rooms dry firing their 642s.

I have never heard of this phenomenon. Are you sure that is what you saw? The frame is aluminum and I believe the firing pin hole has a steel (I am guessing) insert. You could be seeing some metal on metal reaction . . . I guess.

SOUTHPAW · January 31, 2011, 07:34 PM

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That silence you see is 100's of 642 owners sitting in dark rooms dry firing their 642s. I have never heard of this phenomenon. Are you sure that is what you saw? The frame is aluminum and I believe the firing pin hole has a steel (I am guessing) insert. You could be seeing some metal on metal reaction . . . I guess.

Ahahahahaha that's funny. Yeah it's definitely a small spark. You have to look very closely at the pin while it strikes. It happens 3-4/5 times... I should get some snap caps. LOL

SOUTHPAW · January 31, 2011, 07:36 PM

I actually saw it in broad daylight too btw. I don't know what made me turn the gun to the side, but I caught it clear as day...

bhk · January 31, 2011, 08:19 PM

This sparking is common and normal. It has been discussed a number of times over on the Smith and Wesson forum.

SOUTHPAW · January 31, 2011, 10:05 PM

Thanks bhk. I'm a total 642 newb!

alemonkey · January 31, 2011, 10:48 PM

My trigger has also smoothed out after a little bit of live shooting and thousands of dry fires. I now think it's about perfect for a CCW revolver. I wouldn't want it any lighter since I think the heavy trigger is a good safety feature. It's smooth though - like two sticks of butter rubbing against each other. 15 pound sticks of butter, but smooooooth.....

Nematocyst · February 1, 2011, 10:33 PM

New member needs help with handgun choice.

I'm recommending ... well, you know, what we shoot.

Note this interesting question:

Quote:

my biggest thing was why would you want a 45 over a 40 over a 38 or a 357 or a 9mm or a 22?

Well, why would you?

My answer: I wouldn't.

seethesvt · February 2, 2011, 01:02 AM

I joined the club 11 hrs ago. Instead of just 3 huge threads for the "642 club", why isn't there a separate forum? I got questions and digging through 15,000 posts isn't my idea of fun. Like carbon fiber grips!! I want carbon fiber grips!!
If that's not an option, where the best places to get grips? Mother of Pearl, wood, stuff like that. I got a 642-1, no lock $350 new. Sweet little gun.

Brass Rain · February 2, 2011, 06:42 AM

I've been ping-ponging (is that a term?) back and forth between the Glock 26 and Smith 442 for a little while now. I keep telling myself that the Glock holds more rounds and a lighter trigger pull, therefor is better and I should pick that one. But I like revolvers more than autos in general, especially over the look of Glocks, though they have their own boxy charm. I know the 442 would be lighter and conceal easier, especially since I have to bend and move around a lot for work and live in a generally warm climate. And I just like it more. The main thing that concerns me is it would be harder to shoot well and, let's all be honest here: if one of us were afraid for our lives and had to defend ourselves with a handgun, we'd want a 100 round drum magazine if we could hide it somewhere.

Also, found this http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/con...__410__6_round when looking for speed strip wallets for .38 Special. Do .410 speed strips really exist?

seethesvt · February 2, 2011, 08:26 AM

I have a Glock 19, and with a nice IWB holster they are pretty concealable. Holsters like the crossbreed super tuck or the holster store IWB holster.

SOUTHPAW · February 2, 2011, 01:40 PM

My new grips and holster came in today!

joepa150 · February 2, 2011, 08:35 PM

Nice Grips SOUTHPAW. Where did you get those? They look bulkier than the stock grips but they look like they could slide in and out of my pockets easily. Also have you shot with it yet?

SOUTHPAW · February 2, 2011, 09:35 PM

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Nice Grips SOUTHPAW. Where did you get those? They look bulkier than the stock grips but they look like they could slide in and out of my pockets easily. Also have you shot with it yet?

Thanks! They are factory S&W but they're manufactured by another company. They come in 2 or 3 finishes. I have black diamondwood Badgers on my SP101 so I figured I'd match them up.

They aren't any thicker than stock, they are about the same size but feel smaller for some reason... You are right, they are slicker in the pocket, but I only pocket carry it at home though...

Nematocyst · February 2, 2011, 09:37 PM

^ Nice pic.

rdrancher · February 2, 2011, 10:22 PM

Here's a set from Altamont with the logo for comparison. These are a little too squared off at the bottom for my liking.

The 642 looked pretty good back a few years ago. It's a lot more pocket-worn now.

Brass Rain · February 2, 2011, 10:24 PM

Southpaw, those grips look great. They look like they give enough clearance for speed loaders. Do they?

seethesvt · February 2, 2011, 10:46 PM

I'd like grips that cover the back strap and go higher up. CARBON FIBER WOULD BE AWESOME!! I'm a huge carbon fiber fan.

SOUTHPAW · February 2, 2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brass Rain

Southpaw, those grips look great. They look like they give enough clearance for speed loaders. Do they?

Thanks! Like I said, they seem to be the same dimensions as the stock rubber grips, but I will check tomorrow and get back to you.

Brass Rain · February 3, 2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by seethesvt

I'd like grips that cover the back strap and go higher up. CARBON FIBER WOULD BE AWESOME!! I'm a huge carbon fiber fan.

Yeah, carbon fiber does look really neat. Almost got a back-covering on my iPod touch that looked like it, but couldn't rationalize it considering it does basically nothing.

January 31, 2011, 03:27 PM	#352
Yukon Gold Member Join Date: January 31, 2011 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1	642 Please add me as your newest member

January 31, 2011, 03:59 PM	#355
SOUTHPAW Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Location: CT Posts: 319	I just noticed a spark from the firing pin when dry firing... Is this normal? __________________ •Glock •Glades Gun Works •Kel-Tec •LWRC •M&P •Mossberg •Ruger •Smith & Wesson •Walther Our 2nd amendment ensures all others...

January 31, 2011, 07:21 PM	#357
308win Member Join Date: June 23, 2003 Location: Ohio - The Heart of it All Posts: 2,885	That silence you see is 100's of 642 owners sitting in dark rooms dry firing their 642s. I have never heard of this phenomenon. Are you sure that is what you saw? The frame is aluminum and I believe the firing pin hole has a steel (I am guessing) insert. You could be seeing some metal on metal reaction . . . I guess. __________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Sir John Harrington "I just do what the little voices tell me." Me "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved." Unknown Lobbyist (n): Person with a masters degree in bribery. B.C. (Hart) "I didn't lose it I just forgot where I put it." My Wife "Never corner anything that you know is meaner than you." Unknown Last edited by 308win; January 31, 2011 at 07:26 PM.

January 31, 2011, 07:36 PM	#359
SOUTHPAW Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Location: CT Posts: 319	I actually saw it in broad daylight too btw. I don't know what made me turn the gun to the side, but I caught it clear as day... __________________ •Glock •Glades Gun Works •Kel-Tec •LWRC •M&P •Mossberg •Ruger •Smith & Wesson •Walther Our 2nd amendment ensures all others...

January 31, 2011, 10:05 PM	#361
SOUTHPAW Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Location: CT Posts: 319	Thanks bhk. I'm a total 642 newb! __________________ •Glock •Glades Gun Works •Kel-Tec •LWRC •M&P •Mossberg •Ruger •Smith & Wesson •Walther Our 2nd amendment ensures all others...

January 31, 2011, 03:00 PM	#351
Scott30 Member Join Date: January 26, 2008 Posts: 24	I doubt you would get much improvement in the trigger pull since you have X,000 dry fires. Much of a trigger job is polishing the surfaces and you have done that naturally. You could change the rebound spring and hammer spring yourself with a Wolfe spring kit. Makes a huge difference. While you have the side plate off, get rid of all the factory lube with Brakeleen and relube. God luck.

January 31, 2011, 03:46 PM	#353
41 Member Join Date: July 31, 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 265	Welcome to the club and forum Yukon. I've had mine for just over a month, and I really like it. I had trouble shooting accurately at first but then I found these tips and it has really helped tighten my groups. http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/.../miculek2.html. And the guys and girls on this forum are great they can answer pretty much any kind of gun question that you may have.

January 31, 2011, 08:19 PM	#360
bhk Member Join Date: June 17, 2006 Location: Wooded acreage in rural midwest Posts: 901	This sparking is common and normal. It has been discussed a number of times over on the Smith and Wesson forum.

January 31, 2011, 10:48 PM	#362
alemonkey Member Join Date: November 22, 2007 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,678	My trigger has also smoothed out after a little bit of live shooting and thousands of dry fires. I now think it's about perfect for a CCW revolver. I wouldn't want it any lighter since I think the heavy trigger is a good safety feature. It's smooth though - like two sticks of butter rubbing against each other. 15 pound sticks of butter, but smooooooth..... __________________ If you live in Nebraska you should be a member of the Nebraska Firearms Owners Association (membership is free!): http://www.nebraskafirearms.org/ Who is John Galt?

February 2, 2011, 01:02 AM	#364
seethesvt Member Join Date: February 1, 2011 Posts: 36	I joined the club 11 hrs ago. Instead of just 3 huge threads for the "642 club", why isn't there a separate forum? I got questions and digging through 15,000 posts isn't my idea of fun. Like carbon fiber grips!! I want carbon fiber grips!! If that's not an option, where the best places to get grips? Mother of Pearl, wood, stuff like that. I got a 642-1, no lock $350 new. Sweet little gun.

February 2, 2011, 06:42 AM	#365
Brass Rain Member Join Date: May 27, 2008 Location: Nowhere, Louisiana Posts: 341	I've been ping-ponging (is that a term?) back and forth between the Glock 26 and Smith 442 for a little while now. I keep telling myself that the Glock holds more rounds and a lighter trigger pull, therefor is better and I should pick that one. But I like revolvers more than autos in general, especially over the look of Glocks, though they have their own boxy charm. I know the 442 would be lighter and conceal easier, especially since I have to bend and move around a lot for work and live in a generally warm climate. And I just like it more. The main thing that concerns me is it would be harder to shoot well and, let's all be honest here: if one of us were afraid for our lives and had to defend ourselves with a handgun, we'd want a 100 round drum magazine if we could hide it somewhere. Also, found this http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/con...__410__6_round when looking for speed strip wallets for .38 Special. Do .410 speed strips really exist? __________________ "Don't think of it as a gun, think of it as a part of your body... that shoots bullets."

February 2, 2011, 08:26 AM	#366
seethesvt Member Join Date: February 1, 2011 Posts: 36	I have a Glock 19, and with a nice IWB holster they are pretty concealable. Holsters like the crossbreed super tuck or the holster store IWB holster.

February 2, 2011, 01:40 PM	#367
SOUTHPAW Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Location: CT Posts: 319	My new grips and holster came in today! __________________ •Glock •Glades Gun Works •Kel-Tec •LWRC •M&P •Mossberg •Ruger •Smith & Wesson •Walther Our 2nd amendment ensures all others...

February 2, 2011, 08:35 PM	#368
joepa150 Member Join Date: January 5, 2011 Posts: 139	Nice Grips SOUTHPAW. Where did you get those? They look bulkier than the stock grips but they look like they could slide in and out of my pockets easily. Also have you shot with it yet?

February 2, 2011, 09:37 PM	#370
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,619	^ Nice pic. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

February 2, 2011, 10:22 PM	#371
rdrancher Member Join Date: August 9, 2007 Location: North Texas Posts: 780	Here's a set from Altamont with the logo for comparison. These are a little too squared off at the bottom for my liking. The 642 looked pretty good back a few years ago. It's a lot more pocket-worn now. __________________ "Little by little the look of the country changes because of the men we admire." Homer Bannon - Hud 1963 Behind the Barn Last edited by rdrancher; February 2, 2011 at 10:27 PM.

February 2, 2011, 10:24 PM	#372
Brass Rain Member Join Date: May 27, 2008 Location: Nowhere, Louisiana Posts: 341	Southpaw, those grips look great. They look like they give enough clearance for speed loaders. Do they? __________________ "Don't think of it as a gun, think of it as a part of your body... that shoots bullets."

February 2, 2011, 10:46 PM	#373
seethesvt Member Join Date: February 1, 2011 Posts: 36	I'd like grips that cover the back strap and go higher up. CARBON FIBER WOULD BE AWESOME!! I'm a huge carbon fiber fan.