642 Club Part Three - Page 23

DAdams · March 5, 2011, 11:14 PM

Between the Undead and Shariah Lawers larger calibre and gigantic capacity is well in order.

Fortunately here in the great State of TN we can open carry so we don't have the necessity for all these steenkin diminutive pocket thingys.

A couple of my latest acquisitions...keeping in the S&W spirit. I too was getting a bit paranoid about caliber and round count so I just got it over with and behind me...

M&P 9Pro 5 inch barrel 17 rounds fiber optic front sights. No damn lock.

And Smiths cousin Walther

P99 AS in 13 rounds of .40, without a doubt the most ergonomically made pistola ever, IMOFWIW.

fivewheeler · March 6, 2011, 03:25 PM

DAdams..

So the Kahr is too heavy (for you) for pocket carry? I wouldn't want anything heavier than a J-frame either. I have to admit I was getting curious about the little Kahr. On paper the kahr sure seems nice. I've heard several people say it just didn't feel right in the pocket and others say it was wonderful.
What else did you not like about it?
speaking of capacity/caliber
When the argument against J-frames jumps to caliber and capacity I just like to show this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnN_o0Hkn3M
I also remember some book I read about snipers. This guy felt like he needed to start carrying a pistol in case the enemy got too close because he was using a bolt action. An older vet told him when you think you need to carry a pistol what you really need is a rifle. The sniper actually started carrying two rifles in the field. Oh well just a little more fun you can have with the capacity/caliber argument.

DAdams · March 6, 2011, 04:28 PM

5wheeler

I will pm you later.
I don't want to get too off topic too far too long.

sixgunner455 · March 6, 2011, 04:58 PM

I love my 642 because it is small and light. I accept the limited capacity, and somewhat energetic recoil, as being the trade-off for having a rust-free pistol that I can have with me all the time, that I don't have to question the reliability of it with certain ammo, or with certain grips, and so forth. I don't trust tiny pocket pistols to work when needed, or with a couple of chunks of lint worked into them. I trust this .38 to work, no matter what. I carry it every day, everywhere I legally am allowed to.

However. I also have other guns. When I am hiking/hunting in big bear country, I carry a big bear gun. When I am hiking/hunting on our southern border, I carry a full-sized 9mm along with a reload or two, because we have lots of undocumented aliens in the area. Most are likely just here for work, but we have lots of drug smuggling and worse as well. Would suck to not be able to give a good accounting for myself if things went bad.

Tailoring the tool you carry to the task at hand is only smart. If I had to give up all my guns but one, I'd keep the 642 - because, again, I trust it, and I can have it with me all the time. I'm glad I don't have to make that sacrifice.

Stainz · March 6, 2011, 05:26 PM

I am happy with the caliber and capacity of my 642 for most applications. I think I will go for it's big brother - the 296 - with a 240gr LSWC to start and four 200gr Gold Dots to follow - as my woods carry, at least in the SE, pocket protector - .44 Specials really are 'special'.

Mas is a great teacher - he had a bit on the 'Guns and Ammo' TV show - as did Clint Smith. Mas even thought the .22 WMR AirLite had merit as a CCW for some folks.

Nem - DAdams - what have you heard about the Zombie fungus that is infecting ants in Brazil? Maybe 'The Walking Dead' isn't so far fetched... especially about Atlanta. I may have to get a crossdraw rig for my pair of 2 5/8" PC627 UDR's... 8 rounds each .38's or .357M's - a bunch of moonclips ready. Oh yeah, they are just ants... stomp 'em!

The fungi is real - a Penn State researcher has found that it infects the brain, making the ant want to just propagate... then they die - and a staff grows out of their head. I have a b-i-l like that. Oh... maybe his soon to be ex-wife just wants to stick a staff through his head? Gads...undead ants... what next?

Stainz

Nematocyst · March 7, 2011, 11:16 PM

Quote:

I don't want to get too off topic too far too long.

sayeth the MSAA.

If I am going to own, carry, shoot a snub tomorrow,
next week, next month, next year and next decade,
it will likely be able to fire .38 spl.

It may or may not fire .357 mag, also.

Just trying to stay on topic.
Carry on. Smoke'em
if you've got 'em.

(Anyone seen fiVe or JT?)

Another topic entirely,
but congruent with snubs.

Old Bull Lee · March 8, 2011, 02:51 PM

For those of you who carry in a Mika pocket holster I have a question: how do you grip when starting a draw? I've experimented with a few methods, but since there are posters here who have probably been carrying the x42/Mika combo for years I was wanting to hear some others' suggestions.

motorcycle-charlie · March 8, 2011, 04:16 PM

always try to get a full grip with your trigger finger outside the holster so you dont have to readjust after the draw. with tighter pockets it is sometimes easier to draw with your thumb over the hammer shroud instead of against your leg. this allows for a thinner profile and a smoother draw.

motorcycle-charlie · March 8, 2011, 04:22 PM

in some pockets the high front shroud of the Mika holster interferes with the web of my hand while accessing the weapon. for these situations i use my Blackhawk size 3 pocket holster or just iwb appendix carry. that is the great thing about these J's. very versatile and many different ways to hide em'.

308win · March 8, 2011, 04:42 PM

I don't wear tight pants/shorts so I don't have to use a secret grip. I grab the grip of the revolver, trigger finger outside the holster and pull it out. Don't have to readjust grip; my trigger finger is indexed where it needs to be.

SOUTHPAW · March 9, 2011, 06:08 PM

Just got the email confirmation that my Mika holster shipped out!

I'm excited to see how it will work since it's just in time for riding season and I bought it as my primary carry option when on the bike. We shall see...

PcolaDawg · March 9, 2011, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Just got the email confirmation that my Mika holster shipped out!

I'm excited to see how it will work since it's just in time for riding season and I bought it as my primary carry option when on the bike. We shall see...

Me thinks you will like it. I've got my 642 in my Mika holster right now -- while I'm wearing my pajamas. I asked my wife to get me some pajamas with pockets, just so I can carry my 642 at ALL times when I'm home.

Yeah, I might be a bit of a 642 fanatic.

Shopping A Round · March 10, 2011, 12:06 AM

I will try and get some cool pictures up this Saturday after I go to the range for the first time with my 642-1. It is awesome? I think so.

The trigger is so heavy but I have been doing some hand exercises so it is not that bad. Anybody else use the Gripmaster?

What I like thus far is that the 642 does not look out of proportion. It is a small gun, but it doesn't appear to be stubby or shrunken. Just a small looking classic.

I don't feel among you all yet until I fire it. Looking forward to some blisters.

And can anyone recommend a Great and still cheap IWB holster, maybe under $60? Thanks team.

fiVe · March 10, 2011, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nem

(Anyone seen fiVe or JT?)

I lurk frequently and more so lately. It is so good to see the club thriving (a testament to the best snubbie). Heart-felt welcome to all the new 642-heads and a special thanks to DAdams & Nem for overseeing things.

I continue to carry my 642 in my Mika round-cut (an unbeatable combination IMO).

Life is busy (I'm working on my photography skills--which involves a different kind of shot

), but I will try to drop in more often.

Peace,
fiVe

SOUTHPAW · March 10, 2011, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shopping A Round

And can anyone recommend a Great and still cheap IWB holster, maybe under $60? Thanks team.

This one!!!!

I'll send you a PM with the info...

onthehunt · March 11, 2011, 12:33 PM

I'm new to this thread as far as posting. But, I have been reading it since Part 2 was started. I just received my no lock 442 a few days ago. I also had the 642 with no lock but sold it. I just like the Black finish better.

Nematocyst · March 11, 2011, 05:02 PM

fiVe, it's great to hear from you, buddy.
Just look what you started! Who'da thought, right?
Thanks for stopping in. Don't be a stranger.

onthehunt, welcome to the club and THR, even if you've been lurking for a while
(which is fine; I lurked for months before registering).

MassMan · March 11, 2011, 05:18 PM

I picked up a new 642 WITH OUT a lock last Oct. Got a good deal from my dealer friend. Unfortunately the trigger pull is AWFUL and it is going back to smith next week. To top that off I could buy the gun today for $70 less as S&W lowered the price. I sometimes think if not for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck.

alemonkey · March 11, 2011, 06:12 PM

MassMan,

Before spending money on gunsmith just dry fire the thing a couple thousand times. Mine has a very good trigger now. It's very smooth but still heavy, which is how a pocket carried snubby should be. I don't want that thing going off unless I darn well mean it!

DAdams · March 11, 2011, 07:34 PM

Quote:

I lurk frequently and more so lately.

Welcome to fiVe....er oh,,,,,,THE fiVe. Don't be such a stranger this thread as you know is a great way to kill tiMe.

Welcome to onthehunt.

Nematocyst · March 11, 2011, 08:13 PM

Quote:

...a great way to kill tiMe.

I'm laughing over here.

DAdams · March 11, 2011, 10:39 PM

Quote:

a special thanks to DAdams & Nem for overseeing things

It's an hoNor and a plEasuRe.

BRE346 · March 12, 2011, 07:53 PM

Well, maybe. After twenty-five rounds I have to shoot something a litle easier, but before the afternoon is over I'll put another 25 rounds through the delightful little snubbie.

warrconn · March 12, 2011, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Before spending money on gunsmith just dry fire the thing a couple thousand times. Mine has a very good trigger now. It's very smooth but still heavy, which is how a pocket carried snubby should be. I don't want that thing going off unless I darn well mean it!
__________________

Agreed I almost went with the Ruger LCR because of the trigger, but went for the 442 no-lock instead. Maybe luck of the draw, but the trigger was really good out of the box.
My wife and I have dry fired it several hundred times (don't really know how many) and the trigger action is very smooth.

Nematocyst · March 12, 2011, 10:35 PM

TMDF,TSTT

Translation:
The more dry fire,
the smoother the trigger.

March 6, 2011, 04:58 PM	#554
sixgunner455 Member Join Date: August 25, 2006 Posts: 2,574	I love my 642 because it is small and light. I accept the limited capacity, and somewhat energetic recoil, as being the trade-off for having a rust-free pistol that I can have with me all the time, that I don't have to question the reliability of it with certain ammo, or with certain grips, and so forth. I don't trust tiny pocket pistols to work when needed, or with a couple of chunks of lint worked into them. I trust this .38 to work, no matter what. I carry it every day, everywhere I legally am allowed to. However. I also have other guns. When I am hiking/hunting in big bear country, I carry a big bear gun. When I am hiking/hunting on our southern border, I carry a full-sized 9mm along with a reload or two, because we have lots of undocumented aliens in the area. Most are likely just here for work, but we have lots of drug smuggling and worse as well. Would suck to not be able to give a good accounting for myself if things went bad. Tailoring the tool you carry to the task at hand is only smart. If I had to give up all my guns but one, I'd keep the 642 - because, again, I trust it, and I can have it with me all the time. I'm glad I don't have to make that sacrifice. __________________ Life is too short to hunt with an ugly dog. - me If you can't hit a snake at 20 feet with a 12 gauge, you ain't gonna hit a dove, either. -McGunner

March 8, 2011, 02:51 PM	#557
Old Bull Lee Member Join Date: October 1, 2009 Posts: 35	Mika grip For those of you who carry in a Mika pocket holster I have a question: how do you grip when starting a draw? I've experimented with a few methods, but since there are posters here who have probably been carrying the x42/Mika combo for years I was wanting to hear some others' suggestions.

March 8, 2011, 04:42 PM	#560
308win Member Join Date: June 23, 2003 Location: Ohio - The Heart of it All Posts: 2,885	I don't wear tight pants/shorts so I don't have to use a secret grip. I grab the grip of the revolver, trigger finger outside the holster and pull it out. Don't have to readjust grip; my trigger finger is indexed where it needs to be. __________________ "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Sir John Harrington "I just do what the little voices tell me." Me "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved." Unknown Lobbyist (n): Person with a masters degree in bribery. B.C. (Hart) "I didn't lose it I just forgot where I put it." My Wife "Never corner anything that you know is meaner than you." Unknown

March 9, 2011, 06:08 PM	#561
SOUTHPAW Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Location: CT Posts: 319	Just got the email confirmation that my Mika holster shipped out! I'm excited to see how it will work since it's just in time for riding season and I bought it as my primary carry option when on the bike. We shall see... __________________ •Glock •Glades Gun Works •Kel-Tec •LWRC •M&P •Mossberg •Ruger •Smith & Wesson •Walther Our 2nd amendment ensures all others...

March 11, 2011, 05:02 PM	#567
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,619	fiVe, it's great to hear from you, buddy. Just look what you started! Who'da thought, right? Thanks for stopping in. Don't be a stranger. onthehunt, welcome to the club and THR, even if you've been lurking for a while (which is fine; I lurked for months before registering). __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

March 6, 2011, 03:25 PM	#552
fivewheeler Member Join Date: February 5, 2011 Posts: 13	DAdams.. So the Kahr is too heavy (for you) for pocket carry? I wouldn't want anything heavier than a J-frame either. I have to admit I was getting curious about the little Kahr. On paper the kahr sure seems nice. I've heard several people say it just didn't feel right in the pocket and others say it was wonderful. What else did you not like about it? speaking of capacity/caliber When the argument against J-frames jumps to caliber and capacity I just like to show this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnN_o0Hkn3M I also remember some book I read about snipers. This guy felt like he needed to start carrying a pistol in case the enemy got too close because he was using a bolt action. An older vet told him when you think you need to carry a pistol what you really need is a rifle. The sniper actually started carrying two rifles in the field. Oh well just a little more fun you can have with the capacity/caliber argument.

March 6, 2011, 05:26 PM	#555
Stainz Member Join Date: April 24, 2003 Location: Pinson, AL Posts: 3,027	I am happy with the caliber and capacity of my 642 for most applications. I think I will go for it's big brother - the 296 - with a 240gr LSWC to start and four 200gr Gold Dots to follow - as my woods carry, at least in the SE, pocket protector - .44 Specials really are 'special'. Mas is a great teacher - he had a bit on the 'Guns and Ammo' TV show - as did Clint Smith. Mas even thought the .22 WMR AirLite had merit as a CCW for some folks. Nem - DAdams - what have you heard about the Zombie fungus that is infecting ants in Brazil? Maybe 'The Walking Dead' isn't so far fetched... especially about Atlanta. I may have to get a crossdraw rig for my pair of 2 5/8" PC627 UDR's... 8 rounds each .38's or .357M's - a bunch of moonclips ready. Oh yeah, they are just ants... stomp 'em! The fungi is real - a Penn State researcher has found that it infects the brain, making the ant want to just propagate... then they die - and a staff grows out of their head. I have a b-i-l like that. Oh... maybe his soon to be ex-wife just wants to stick a staff through his head? Gads...undead ants... what next? Stainz

March 8, 2011, 04:16 PM	#558
motorcycle-charlie Member Join Date: November 13, 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 257	always try to get a full grip with your trigger finger outside the holster so you dont have to readjust after the draw. with tighter pockets it is sometimes easier to draw with your thumb over the hammer shroud instead of against your leg. this allows for a thinner profile and a smoother draw.

March 8, 2011, 04:22 PM	#559
motorcycle-charlie Member Join Date: November 13, 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 257	in some pockets the high front shroud of the Mika holster interferes with the web of my hand while accessing the weapon. for these situations i use my Blackhawk size 3 pocket holster or just iwb appendix carry. that is the great thing about these J's. very versatile and many different ways to hide em'.

March 10, 2011, 12:06 AM	#563
Shopping A Round Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 99	I will try and get some cool pictures up this Saturday after I go to the range for the first time with my 642-1. It is awesome? I think so. The trigger is so heavy but I have been doing some hand exercises so it is not that bad. Anybody else use the Gripmaster? What I like thus far is that the 642 does not look out of proportion. It is a small gun, but it doesn't appear to be stubby or shrunken. Just a small looking classic. I don't feel among you all yet until I fire it. Looking forward to some blisters. And can anyone recommend a Great and still cheap IWB holster, maybe under $60? Thanks team.

March 11, 2011, 05:18 PM	#568
MassMan Member Join Date: March 20, 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 153	I picked up a new 642 WITH OUT a lock last Oct. Got a good deal from my dealer friend. Unfortunately the trigger pull is AWFUL and it is going back to smith next week. To top that off I could buy the gun today for $70 less as S&W lowered the price. I sometimes think if not for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck.

March 11, 2011, 06:12 PM	#569
alemonkey Member Join Date: November 22, 2007 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,678	MassMan, Before spending money on gunsmith just dry fire the thing a couple thousand times. Mine has a very good trigger now. It's very smooth but still heavy, which is how a pocket carried snubby should be. I don't want that thing going off unless I darn well mean it! __________________ If you live in Nebraska you should be a member of the Nebraska Firearms Owners Association (membership is free!): http://www.nebraskafirearms.org/ Who is John Galt?

March 12, 2011, 07:53 PM	#573
BRE346 Member Join Date: February 10, 2011 Location: South Texas Posts: 212	642-2 fun gun Well, maybe. After twenty-five rounds I have to shoot something a litle easier, but before the afternoon is over I'll put another 25 rounds through the delightful little snubbie. __________________ Ancient Airman

March 12, 2011, 10:35 PM	#575
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,619	TMDF,TSTT Translation: The more dry fire, the smoother the trigger. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels