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Join Date: August 5, 2005
Location: 44°N x 69°W
Posts: 11,607
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May you keep it going when the founders are long gone. Took a look at that little Ruger. Hadn't seen it before. Nice gun. You'll probably like your new 442 better, though. Not only lighter, but simpler; fewer moving parts. I look forward to pics. Nem |
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Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: paducah, ky
Posts: 46
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i'm very pleased with this little revolver, to be so incredibly light weight yet not free like a toy. the learning curve is quiet different from any other firearm i have owned, but i think with a little (ok alot) of practice i will be as good with it as i am with any of my other handguns.
thanks sam from kentucky just a thought, what is 38 special running in other places? i think i paid like 35 or 36 bucks for 100 rounds of winchester white box. |
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Join Date: February 28, 2007
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,934
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Comparison Photos
We use the X42 and this thread as a bellweather for other handguns. I recently puchased a Boberg XR9-S so I thought I would share and contrast the two. 642 shown with CT 305 grips.
X42 5 rounds of .38 spl and including plus P XR9 8 rounds of 9mm and including plus P Weight X42 15 oz XR9 17 Price is about double for the Boberg. ![]()
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Join Date: January 3, 2011
Posts: 467
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What gives, DA... no pumpkins?
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Join Date: February 28, 2007
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,934
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Pumpkins
Thats funny Tony.
After Labor Day. have to get Summer behind us and ready for harvest time.You are indeed an attentive member of the Club.
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#1156 |
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Join Date: August 5, 2005
Location: 44°N x 69°W
Posts: 11,607
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^ Hahahahahaha....
______ On the road a lot until October, with very scarce I'net connections (see location; one town north of here has the last traffic light before you hit Canada, over 100 mi north). I'll be a bit scarce in the club house til then ... |
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#1157 |
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Join Date: January 7, 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 20
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Need Help
Hi Friends! I am new member. As I go over my new 642-2, I find that if I wanted to I would be able to fire in either DA or SA! When I apply pressure to the trigger I feel and hear a second "click"just before the hammer strikes. I continue pressure and fire Or I can release the trigger and return hammer without firing. Am now confused! What do you think? Thanks for your time and help.
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Join Date: June 23, 2003
Location: Ohio - The Heart of it All
Posts: 2,883
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Normal. You can with practice stage the hammer but not a practice you want to rely on in a pressure situation as your small muscle coordination will undoubtedly desert you.
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Join Date: January 22, 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 3,879
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I would never intentionally pull the trigger unless the gun firing at any time while you are pulling the trigger is 100% acceptable to you. For shooting nice groups at the range, sure, stage the trigger. For practicing for defensive use or using defensively...I'd rather not. One smooth pull is what I'd go for.
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#1160 |
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Join Date: January 7, 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 20
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reppliy to my thread.
Thanks for such a quick reply. I was not very clear in the way I wrote the thread. I realize that I would only rely on one smooth trigger pull in any "real" situation.I was just surprised when I could see that it was possible to S/A. and that I thought that was not possible. The 642 is not a target piece but I was interested to know at a target I could try to use S/A for accuracy. Sorry I was not clear with my question. Just surprised that this was possible. Thanks again.
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Join Date: January 3, 2011
Posts: 467
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The term is "staging" the trigger. It is still double-action. The cylinder locks into place just before firing. Smith & Wesson makes a point to warn you against staging the trigger in their revolver manual that should have been supplied to you upon purchase of the firearm. The firearm should be shot with one defined single trigger pull. There should only be a modicum of force needed to fire after the cylinder locks. I had a firearm that was staging the trigger whether I intended to or not, and sent it back to S&W whom repaired the ratchet. The cylinder should always lock as part of cycling the action and firing, but firing should not be delayed.
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Join Date: January 7, 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 20
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"Staging the trigger"
I could not find any information in the paperwork that came with the gun. And as you can see had no idea of what Staging the trigger meant.Again Thanks I am learning something new every day Ted
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Join Date: December 6, 2005
Location: Monterey Bay and Lake Tahoe
Posts: 17
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Well here you go then:
Page 20 of the manual that comes with every firearm S&W_Revolver_Manual.pdf WARNING: “STAGING” THE TRIGGER VIOLATES A BASIC RULE OF FIREARM SAFETY WHICH WARNS YOU TO KEEP YOUR FINGER OUT OF THE TRIGGER GUARD UNTIL YOU HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT TO FIRE. “STAGING” CREATES A SERIOUS RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY OR DEATH SINCE IT MAY LEAD TO AN UNINTENTIONAL DISCHARGE. • It has come to our attention that some users of Smith & Wesson handguns may stage the trigger in anticipation of firing a shot. Staging is the act of pulling the trigger rearward toward — stopping just short of — the point where the hammer falls and the handgun fires. Such manipulation of the trigger can reduce the userʼs control of the handgun and can result in an unintentional discharge. Furthermore if the user decides not to fire, release of the trigger from a position close to the firing point in the staging process could result in an unintended discharge. Last edited by otteray; September 7, 2012 at 01:11 AM. Reason: added link |
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Join Date: October 21, 2010
Location: Wisconsin Central State
Posts: 218
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![]() I have had this 640 since sometime before 1994. The Grips are Grasshorn. This is one I will never sell. It rides ain a Bianchi R9, 01 Desantis or my newest and one of the besr belt rigs a Simply Rugged Silver Dollar. Has also been in a pocket or two. The trigger is like glass and the only modification done excluding grips, has been a trigger stop [ pencil eraser ] glued to the back of the trigger and the front sight is painted white. Oh I forgot the trigger was dehorned on the sharp side edges too.
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Join Date: March 19, 2006
Posts: 7,615
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Checking back in after a long absence here, and an absence of J Frame ownership. I recently purchased what may be my grail of J Frames - a no lock 638-2. It has the infamous crackling finish, but that let me pick it up used at a good price.
That also brings a question for you fine folks: Has anyone stripped the crackling finish off the top of the aluminum and used Brownell's aluma-black or a similar product with good results? |
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Join Date: November 26, 2008
Location: Florence, SC
Posts: 530
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Just joined the club yesterday. Traded my LCP that I hated for this 642 beauty. Got it used, but it looks as if it has only been shot maybe once. Between trade and used only cost me $150. Took it out to the range today and it shoots beautifully.
Got a Galco pocket holster for now, but have a Mika's on the way due to the recommendations in this forum. Cheers! ![]() Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
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Join Date: February 28, 2007
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,934
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Welcome CH. nice to have you join us.
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Join Date: February 28, 2006
Location: Somewhere between the Eastern Block states and Florida
Posts: 3,699
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Yes, welcome to the club! Now you need to carry it and put some nice, honest holster wear on it! Mine is looking properly worn, there's even a little paint flaking off the frame below the barrel and on the backstrap, a badge of honor IMHO. I recall being saddened when it went back to S&W to have the crane adjusted (I tripped in the garage and fell on it ... hurt it as much as it hurt me). While it was there they replaced the barrel since the b/c gap was .011. Had a nice amount of finish wear on that original barrel. The new one is finally starting to look proper though
. Got mine riding backup duty tonight to my 3" .44 Special Taurus. Perfect gun for me in that role, though it does still get to ride primary on some days.
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Join Date: November 26, 2008
Location: Florence, SC
Posts: 530
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Join Date: February 28, 2007
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,934
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+1 on some of the early on'ers. jt's silence for so long is troubling.
![]() I'm sure K5 is looking over our shoulder.
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Join Date: March 19, 2006
Posts: 7,615
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Yeah! We're gettin the band back together!
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Join Date: February 28, 2007
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,934
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And More Pumpkins
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Join Date: February 28, 2007
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,934
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Or Late Season Romas
Fresh from the vine garnished with seasonal 38SPLPPSGDFSB135gr
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