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Old May 18, 2015, 12:57 PM   #1
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Got to take a training lesson on how to use the ARK by Spyderco from one of the designers, our own John Shirley, who along with Sam 1911 designed the knife.
It was an enlightening lesson by a skilled trainer. We worked on defensive and offensive moves. Many of the moves were transferable to other knives
we also worked with canes and that was also enlightening.
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Old May 18, 2015, 01:31 PM   #2
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Thank you, Doc, I'm glad it was useful.

Sam and I have already shot video of a variety of simple defensive moves. I'm just waiting on the final factory ARK - which I should have tomorrow - to finish the video.

Doc, when you have a chance, would you post a pic of the ARK trainer next to a common Spyderco for size comparison? I think that will help members get a grasp of the size of the thing.
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Old May 18, 2015, 02:54 PM   #3
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What is this ARK i have been hearing about?
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Old May 18, 2015, 02:58 PM   #4
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It's a defensive knife Sam and I designed. Spyderco is shipping them currently.

Link here.
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Old May 18, 2015, 03:02 PM   #5
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It's been on my list to get when it comes out.
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Old May 18, 2015, 03:46 PM   #6
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THR members in the area are welcome to attend a close-range knife and gun seminar in Laurel, MD on 27-28 June.

>No prior experience necessary
>No live weapons

Price is very reasonable, but space is limited. Sam, Doc, and I will all be there. PM for more info.

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Old May 18, 2015, 05:33 PM   #7
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I tried and failed to get pictures up from my tablet I will try later from the desk top

I will also be at the training session.
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Old May 18, 2015, 05:34 PM   #8
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You'd be impressed what a small knife can do defensively when you're trained how to use them.
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Old May 18, 2015, 06:59 PM   #9
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Old May 18, 2015, 09:48 PM   #10
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Just picked one up on Blade HQ . Should be here in 4 days. Congratulations to all on bringing the design to production!
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Old May 18, 2015, 11:37 PM   #11
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Thanks for the kudos, guys! We're really happy to get this in folks' hands, though we hope no-one ever really needs it.
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Old May 19, 2015, 11:30 AM   #12
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That looks like it would be really handy for general use as well as defense. I'm getting one to hang on my neck when fishing, one more option to cut rope or line off of me in an emergency. If it is comfy as I'm expecting, I'll probably wear it a lot more.

I've never owned a kydex sheath. Will the retention hold up well if used a lot?
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Old May 19, 2015, 03:31 PM   #13
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Rodensouth,
yes, my several neck knives with kydex sheaths have held up over time.
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Old May 19, 2015, 03:46 PM   #14
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This is actually a thermoplastic sheath, not kydex. The sheath weighs more than the actual knife.

RS, I'm planning on taking one with me on a sea kayaking trip next month.

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Old May 19, 2015, 05:42 PM   #15
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I've been using one if my santo blades as a neck knife every day for about maybe two years now and it is as tight as ever. I know the production ARK sheath isn't myxedema but I expect it will hold up as well.
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Old May 19, 2015, 06:51 PM   #16
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Old May 19, 2015, 09:54 PM   #17
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I'm getting one to hang on my neck when fishing, one more option to cut rope or line off of me in an emergency.
I had the same thought. It looks really useful. Nice design.
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Old May 19, 2015, 11:13 PM   #18
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It is extremely lightweight, and rides very flat.
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Old May 20, 2015, 08:08 PM   #19
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What kind of angle did you go with for the edge? Did you play around with different edges any? With H1 being so corrosion resistant (corrosion typically kills the edges on my Moras much faster than use does), it seems you could probably do a fairly fine edge.
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Old May 20, 2015, 08:20 PM   #20
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Uh...my wife just checked. Spyderco themselves only have three left in stock as of 8:15.

Guess they're selling!
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Old May 20, 2015, 08:22 PM   #21
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What kind of angle did you go with for the edge? Did you play around with different edges any?
I haven't measured the production model. One of the changes Spyderco went with was to go hollow ground instead of full-flat like I'd done. We played with a number of different steel thicknesses and I always set the final grind to as low an angle as I could get, practically, given the steel thickness.

But Spyderco went another step thinner, and then hollow! So...very, very slicey.
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Old May 20, 2015, 08:48 PM   #22
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They were out of stock quickly at blade hq and I saw it in stock at knife center with a good description of it's reason/purpose and development. Should get mine tomorrow!
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Old May 22, 2015, 09:54 PM   #23
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Well got mine today. Nice. Small, thin flat profile, sharp and very pointy. Very light and easy to manipulate with my big hands. I am going to try to keep it on as long as I can. Kind of put it on and forget about it until needed.
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Old May 23, 2015, 09:14 AM   #24
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I'm glad you're happy with it. Yeah, the design goal was to make a knife with a shape that was easy to grip despite the knife being as minimalist as possible. I carried the ARK for a couple days underneath my body armor on the job I just quit without a problem.

I should be able to shoot the last piece of the video tomorrow.
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