How Many are Now Carrying a Cane? - Page 6

glistam · February 4, 2011, 05:04 PM

When I saw this cane, I was not sure if I should laugh, or buy one.

http://budk.com/Self-Defense/ZAP-Cane-With-Flashlight

Deltaboy · February 4, 2011, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glistam

When I saw this cane, I was not sure if I should laugh, or buy one.

http://budk.com/Self-Defense/ZAP-Cane-With-Flashlight

Oh my goodness a money pit !

**hso** · February 4, 2011, 07:13 PM

Laugh.

Steaming POS!

Nematocyst · February 7, 2011, 06:17 PM

I'm trying to find a source of a 38" (37" minimum) blackthorn or ash knob stick.

I'm not so tall (6'), but I know what I want in a walking stick, and 36" doesn't work for me.
(I've tried adjusting my carbon fiber mountaineering trekking pole to 36" multiple times. Just doesn't feel right.)

I've found one 37" blackthorn, but part of that 37" is a metal spike (great for the snow/ice up here, and could do some serious damage in SD).

But I can't find anything longer in blackthorn.

I also found these 38" ash knob sticks that look beautiful, but I'm not fond of the 'crook' in the handle - I want a straight one - and the company can't guarantee a straight one. (I suspect most are bent this way, which concerns me because the 38" may be 'linear' along the crook, and not really be 38" tall.)

I may buy one anyway. It looks so nice and suspect it's a fine product.

Any one got a source of 'big and tall'?

Thanks.

Corbin · February 8, 2011, 01:40 AM

I carry a cane most of the time, but not always. Got mine from Cane Masters years ago. Looks similar to this, only in red oak:

I've never had an issue going into court houses or airports, though they sometimes X-ray it. Granted, I've got a 14" scar on my left leg from a compound tibula, fibula fracture and another on my left front hip from breaking that.

BRad704 · February 8, 2011, 10:27 AM

Since I mentioned it previously in this thread... I'll update myself...

I have been seeing a chiropractor for a week now and although the pain is still there, I am getting some range-of-motion back in my lower back. According to the Dr, after next week, we will be done "loosening" everything and can start a muscle rehab to get my body used to holding itself straight again... after that, I should be good to go.

Deltaboy · February 9, 2011, 09:14 AM

Praise the Lord Brother now take care and keep carrying your cane!

Carl Levitian · February 9, 2011, 09:54 AM

"Since I mentioned it previously in this thread... I'll update myself...

I have been seeing a chiropractor for a week now and although the pain is still there, I am getting some range-of-motion back in my lower back. According to the Dr, after next week, we will be done "loosening" everything and can start a muscle rehab to get my body used to holding itself straight again... after that, I should be good to go."

That's great Man! Keep up the good work, and I know from personal experience that PT is hard work.

Of course, by now, all your friends and family have got used to the sight of you carrying a cane.

One can only wonder if they would take much note if you just kept on carrying it.

Carl.

chuckfw · February 9, 2011, 10:33 AM

Never have carried one with SD in mind. May do it sometime in the future.

Nematocyst · February 12, 2011, 12:30 PM

Brad, congrats! That's great news.

Ever checked out osteopathy? I highly recommend it. I'm usually very, very skeptical of alternative medicines (I have grad degrees in biology and have taught anatomy and physiology; hard core science type, no fringes), but have found osteopaths to be miracle workers (at least the one that I saw). Just a thought.

Send us more good news as you know it.

Nematocyst · February 12, 2011, 12:44 PM

As I've mentioned above, I've become a big fan of Irish stick fighting, especially Glen Doyle's style. (He's in Toronto, and I can't get there to take lessons, but hope to go to one of his weekend seminars sometime.)

I'm considering starting a thread about that specifically, to compare with other styles of stick fighting/SD (like FMA, etc).

So, last night, an acquaintance on another forum showed me this video about Russian stick fighting. Sibirsky Vium by an instructor Dimitriy Skogorev. He looks like he really knows his stuff; his moves are fluid and second-nature.

Pretty interesting stuff. Not canes by any stretch - those guys use big sticks

-
but a lot of the same techniques could be applied to canes, I think.

There are a lot of techniques crammed into a short time with fast scene changes,
so it's hard to follow them. I wish one could run youtube in slow motion.

Speaking of sticks, I ordered a 39" ash knob stick this week. Have already seen it in pictures
- yes, the very one ; proprietor sent pics - and it's beautiful.

Will keep you posted.

CollinLeon · February 12, 2011, 01:36 PM

"The Cane as a Weapon" -- A.C. Cunningham, Civil Engineer, US Navy, 1912

http://ad1542.tripod.com/cunningham.pdf

And here's a magazine article from 1901 by Edward William Barton-Wright...

http://www.elite-fighters.com/librar..._fighting1.htm

Nematocyst · February 12, 2011, 02:05 PM

^ Neat stuff. Thanks.

I love the illustrations in the magazine article.

Tallyman · February 13, 2011, 11:21 PM

I only have two knees and I think I will be needing surgery on both of them. how is that third knee working out?

Nematocyst · February 15, 2011, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Speaking of sticks, I ordered a 39" ash knob stick this week.

It arrived.

It exceeded my expectations.

Here are a couple of pics.

Deltaboy · February 15, 2011, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nematocyst

It arrived.

It exceeded my expectations.

Here are a couple of pics.

Very nice now I want One!

K96771 · February 15, 2011, 08:50 PM

Very nice! One more for my needs list

Deltaboy · February 22, 2011, 09:43 PM

I won some old canes off the Bay and will post a pic as soon as they get here.

CollinLeon · February 23, 2011, 05:21 AM

I had a problem with a cane head not wanting to stay tight on the cane shaft at one time and did not have the materials to fix it right. What I was able to do was to slightly taper the end of the shaft and screw it onto a iron 3/4-1/2-1/2 T-fitting from a plumbing supply store. Surprisingly, it was very sturdy and fairly comfortable. Not as useful as having the hook that the previous head provided, but not that bad, considering the fact that it was just something to hold me over until I could property reinstall the brass head.

I've considered welding a short piece of 1" iron pipe to the T-fitting and then screwing it onto the shaft of the cane. The inside diameter of the 1" iron pipe is just slightly smaller than the upper part of the shaft of the cane, so it would be a pretty tight fit, even without any glue. With just the T-fitting on it though, the balance was pretty good... I suspect adding a 4" section of pipe to the top of it would affect the balance adversely for anything other than just using it for walking.

Deltaboy · February 23, 2011, 06:22 PM

You would turn the cane into a war hammer.

CollinLeon · February 23, 2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltaboy

You would turn the cane into a war hammer.

I had considered making a cane handle from the head of a brick hammer...

It has a pretty good shape for a cane handle and with just a bit of grinding on the sharp point to round off the corners a bit, it would look a bit more like the head of a cane and not an actual hammer... To do it right though, you would need to weld the head to a piece of 1" or so steel pipe that would have a slot cut in it so that it wrapped up the sides of the brick hammer's head.

Of course, what would really be nice would be to design a piece of 3/4" steel pipe for the handle with a firing mechanism so that you could put a 12-gauge cartridge in it... 12-gauge pepper spray shell, if you were wanting to ensure that you didn't have to pay the ATF whatever fee they would want for such a thing... I've read the ATF regulations and I'm not sure whether such a device would require a $200 tax stamp or a $5 tax stamp if you designed it for normal shotgun shells.

Of course, I consider these ATF "regulations" to be completely unconstitutional since they by their very nature infringe upon our rights to bear arms. Then again, by its very definition, the ATF itself is a violation of our 2nd Amendment rights...

knifestuff · February 24, 2011, 08:38 PM

for Nematocyst:

Quote "It arrived.
It exceeded my expectations.
Here are a couple of pics."
What was the source for the ash knob stick? It looks great.

Nematocyst · February 24, 2011, 08:46 PM

Knife. PM coming.

Nematocyst · February 24, 2011, 08:48 PM

CL, that's a serious
looking cane handle.

CollinLeon · February 24, 2011, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nematocyst

CL, that's a serious
looking cane handle.

Which one? The design that I drew on a previous page or the brick hammer?

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February 4, 2011, 05:04 PM	#126
glistam Member Join Date: March 31, 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 496	When I saw this cane, I was not sure if I should laugh, or buy one. http://budk.com/Self-Defense/ZAP-Cane-With-Flashlight __________________ My Wiki: Weapon Laws for Dummies: A guide for the rest of us

February 4, 2011, 07:13 PM	#128
hso Moderator Join Date: January 3, 2003 Location: 0 hrs east of TN Posts: 33,505	Laugh. Steaming POS! __________________ SAF Life Member/NRAILA Contributor **************** Please Read The Forum Rules** TheHighRoad exists to provide a higher grade of discussion than is found on some other gun forums so antis and undecideds can see that gun owners and RKBA advocates are not the reckless misanthropes they tell everyone we are. Personal attacks, group stereotyping, macho chest-thumping, and partisan hackery are low road and hurt all of us.

February 7, 2011, 06:17 PM	#129
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,607	Long blackthorn or ash? I'm trying to find a source of a 38" (37" minimum) blackthorn or ash knob stick. I'm not so tall (6'), but I know what I want in a walking stick, and 36" doesn't work for me. (I've tried adjusting my carbon fiber mountaineering trekking pole to 36" multiple times. Just doesn't feel right.) I've found one 37" blackthorn, but part of that 37" is a metal spike (great for the snow/ice up here, and could do some serious damage in SD). But I can't find anything longer in blackthorn. I also found these 38" ash knob sticks that look beautiful, but I'm not fond of the 'crook' in the handle - I want a straight one - and the company can't guarantee a straight one. (I suspect most are bent this way, which concerns me because the 38" may be 'linear' along the crook, and not really be 38" tall.) I may buy one anyway. It looks so nice and suspect it's a fine product. Any one got a source of 'big and tall'? Thanks. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

February 9, 2011, 09:14 AM	#132
Deltaboy Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 4,237	Praise the Lord Brother now take care and keep carrying your cane! __________________ I just an ole sinner saved by Grace and protected by Smith & Wesson.

February 8, 2011, 01:40 AM	#130
Corbin Member Join Date: February 24, 2009 Posts: 6	I carry a cane most of the time, but not always. Got mine from Cane Masters years ago. Looks similar to this, only in red oak: I've never had an issue going into court houses or airports, though they sometimes X-ray it. Granted, I've got a 14" scar on my left leg from a compound tibula, fibula fracture and another on my left front hip from breaking that.

February 8, 2011, 10:27 AM	#131
BRad704 Member Join Date: February 9, 2009 Posts: 516	Since I mentioned it previously in this thread... I'll update myself... I have been seeing a chiropractor for a week now and although the pain is still there, I am getting some range-of-motion back in my lower back. According to the Dr, after next week, we will be done "loosening" everything and can start a muscle rehab to get my body used to holding itself straight again... after that, I should be good to go.

February 9, 2011, 09:54 AM	#133
Carl Levitian Member Join Date: June 3, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,095	"Since I mentioned it previously in this thread... I'll update myself... I have been seeing a chiropractor for a week now and although the pain is still there, I am getting some range-of-motion back in my lower back. According to the Dr, after next week, we will be done "loosening" everything and can start a muscle rehab to get my body used to holding itself straight again... after that, I should be good to go." That's great Man! Keep up the good work, and I know from personal experience that PT is hard work. Of course, by now, all your friends and family have got used to the sight of you carrying a cane. One can only wonder if they would take much note if you just kept on carrying it. Carl.

February 9, 2011, 10:33 AM	#134
chuckfw Member Join Date: April 16, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 15	Never have carried one with SD in mind. May do it sometime in the future.

February 12, 2011, 12:30 PM	#135
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,607	Brad, congrats! That's great news. Ever checked out osteopathy? I highly recommend it. I'm usually very, very skeptical of alternative medicines (I have grad degrees in biology and have taught anatomy and physiology; hard core science type, no fringes), but have found osteopaths to be miracle workers (at least the one that I saw). Just a thought. Send us more good news as you know it. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

February 12, 2011, 12:44 PM	#136
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,607	As I've mentioned above, I've become a big fan of Irish stick fighting, especially Glen Doyle's style. (He's in Toronto, and I can't get there to take lessons, but hope to go to one of his weekend seminars sometime.) I'm considering starting a thread about that specifically, to compare with other styles of stick fighting/SD (like FMA, etc). So, last night, an acquaintance on another forum showed me this video about Russian stick fighting. Sibirsky Vium by an instructor Dimitriy Skogorev. He looks like he really knows his stuff; his moves are fluid and second-nature. Pretty interesting stuff. Not canes by any stretch - those guys use big sticks - but a lot of the same techniques could be applied to canes, I think. There are a lot of techniques crammed into a short time with fast scene changes, so it's hard to follow them. I wish one could run youtube in slow motion. Speaking of sticks, I ordered a 39" ash knob stick this week. Have already seen it in pictures - yes, the very one ; proprietor sent pics - and it's beautiful. Will keep you posted. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

February 12, 2011, 01:36 PM	#137
CollinLeon member Join Date: January 31, 2011 Location: Republic of Tejas Posts: 395	"The Cane as a Weapon" -- A.C. Cunningham, Civil Engineer, US Navy, 1912 http://ad1542.tripod.com/cunningham.pdf And here's a magazine article from 1901 by Edward William Barton-Wright... http://www.elite-fighters.com/librar..._fighting1.htm

February 12, 2011, 02:05 PM	#138
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,607	^ Neat stuff. Thanks. I love the illustrations in the magazine article. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

February 13, 2011, 11:21 PM	#139
Tallyman Member Join Date: December 25, 2003 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 29	I only have two knees and I think I will be needing surgery on both of them. how is that third knee working out? __________________ I wish I could be half the man my dog thinks I am.

February 15, 2011, 08:50 PM	#142
K96771 Member Join Date: October 27, 2006 Location: NJ Pinelands Posts: 431	Very nice! One more for my needs list __________________ Tom http://www.factcheck.org/

February 22, 2011, 09:43 PM	#143
Deltaboy Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 4,237	I won some old canes off the Bay and will post a pic as soon as they get here. __________________ I just an ole sinner saved by Grace and protected by Smith & Wesson.

February 23, 2011, 05:21 AM	#144
CollinLeon member Join Date: January 31, 2011 Location: Republic of Tejas Posts: 395	I had a problem with a cane head not wanting to stay tight on the cane shaft at one time and did not have the materials to fix it right. What I was able to do was to slightly taper the end of the shaft and screw it onto a iron 3/4-1/2-1/2 T-fitting from a plumbing supply store. Surprisingly, it was very sturdy and fairly comfortable. Not as useful as having the hook that the previous head provided, but not that bad, considering the fact that it was just something to hold me over until I could property reinstall the brass head. I've considered welding a short piece of 1" iron pipe to the T-fitting and then screwing it onto the shaft of the cane. The inside diameter of the 1" iron pipe is just slightly smaller than the upper part of the shaft of the cane, so it would be a pretty tight fit, even without any glue. With just the T-fitting on it though, the balance was pretty good... I suspect adding a 4" section of pipe to the top of it would affect the balance adversely for anything other than just using it for walking.

February 23, 2011, 06:22 PM	#145
Deltaboy Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 4,237	You would turn the cane into a war hammer. __________________ I just an ole sinner saved by Grace and protected by Smith & Wesson.

February 24, 2011, 08:38 PM	#147
knifestuff Member Join Date: March 19, 2005 Location: GA Posts: 55	for Nematocyst: Quote "It arrived. It exceeded my expectations. Here are a couple of pics." What was the source for the ash knob stick? It looks great.

February 24, 2011, 08:46 PM	#148
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,607	Knife. PM coming. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels

February 24, 2011, 08:48 PM	#149
Nematocyst Member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: 44°N x 69°W Posts: 11,607	CL, that's a serious looking cane handle. __________________ ______________ Blades, Levers, Sticks & Wheels