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Old March 19, 2015, 09:24 AM   #1
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Please ID this Colt 1860 .44

I don't remember where I bought this. Like new, never fired, in storage. I am 78 ,sons don't like guns. Is this made by Colt? No Italian stamps. ON barrel "ADDRESS COL SAM COLT NEW-YORK US AMERICA". There is a small mark after S which I cant read most likely an "L". No other marks. No box or manuals.
I don't know yet what to ask for it and your advice welcome. I have more photos and can email them if you want. Many Thanks for advice ...John
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Old March 19, 2015, 09:39 AM   #2
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The pics aren't real good but as it stands it sure looks like a Colt. In my opinion a Second Generation 1860 Army. And yes there should be a small raised capital letter 'L' after 'SAM' on the barrel marking. Most who collect Second and Third Generation Colts like having the box and paperwork with the revolver. I'd say between $400.00 to $600.00 dollar range.

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Old March 19, 2015, 12:02 PM   #3
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That does look like a Second Generation Colt.
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Old March 19, 2015, 04:18 PM   #4
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The serial number is too high to be a 2nd Gen ( 212642 is highest 2nd Gen made). If it has Sam Colt signature on the back strap it's a Signature Series 1860 Army made between 1994 and 2002. As such; without the boxes, it's worth between $350 and $450
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Old March 19, 2015, 04:38 PM   #5
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Fingers, The photos seem to show a black back-strap. Don't the signature series have silver?
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Old March 19, 2015, 04:40 PM   #6
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I do not think it is one of the ASM's. My ASM 1860 has a dash at the beginning and end of the Colt address.

I have not seen the caliber marked on the trigger guard on ANY of the Italian repros.

Is there anything marked under the loading lever?
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Old March 19, 2015, 04:57 PM   #7
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Fingers, The photos seem to show a black back-strap. Don't the signature series have silver?
They're blued with highly polished brass TG, like this one.
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Old March 19, 2015, 07:24 PM   #8
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You would think the OP would have mentioned that Sam Colt signature on the back strap as all Signature Series Third Generation Colts have that.

John, are you sure there is no proof mark anywhere or markings under the loading lever?
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Old March 19, 2015, 07:26 PM   #9
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You'd think.
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Old March 19, 2015, 07:55 PM   #10
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"Sons don't like guns"?!?! Disown 'em!
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:04 PM   #11
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Adler's book stops Second Gen. 1860's at SN 212835.

This one has the correct barrel address, the correct "Colts Patent" on the frame and "44 Cal" on the trigger guard.

If it has Sam's signature on the backstrap, the 2013 Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms (8th Ed.) has it at $650 if 100% (NIB) and if it has both white outer and grey inner boxes and all the papers.

Minus $100 to $150 if the boxes and papers are missing but the revolver is pristine equals $500 to $550.

Allen drops the value to $350 if it is only 98% and it is missing boxes and papers.

The book gives $250 at 90% and $200 at 80%.

So it costs you $200 to shoot these once!?!

Ouch.
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Old March 20, 2015, 06:46 AM   #12
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The back strap is blue with silver signature SAMl Colt. It has never been fired stored since I bought it..I just don't remember where or when!!
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Old March 20, 2015, 08:49 AM   #13
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My mistake. I even looked up the serial number but transposed a figure and screwed it up.

Look on Gunbroker or Auction Arms 95% of the Second and Third Generation Colts, "Never been fired" "Never been cocked" "Never been turned" and some "Never been out of the box just to clean and oil." A shame also as they are great shooters.

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Old March 20, 2015, 03:13 PM   #14
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Many Thanks for your replies..I will list it for sale. I live near Dallas, Allen, TX, if any locals interested.
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Old March 20, 2015, 03:51 PM   #15
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Where are you going to list it?
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Old March 21, 2015, 03:55 PM   #16
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I was going to list it on this website but prohibitions prevent that. It seems that singing on to sell is not in the spirit of the community forum although, to me, buying and selling is the life blood of pure enjoyment which is the purpose of all our hobbies. I think I need to reread the selling rules.
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Old March 21, 2015, 07:42 PM   #17
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Try listing the ones you want to sell on The Firing Line. Easier to accomplish than here.
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Old March 24, 2015, 06:46 AM   #18
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I would like to sell this pistol and a Uberti stainless steel 1862 Navy pocket .36. I am 78 and no longer an active BP shooter. The restrictions on posting for sale items on this site are such that if interested please leave private message and I will contact you. My sons not interested in guns, my desire is to find safe places for these guns, and at my age I am not a long term user of any website.
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