THR Remington 1858 Club - Page 16

tpelle · April 19, 2011, 05:22 PM

Here's mine:

Pictured is the second group of five ever fired out of mine, on a shoot-n-c target at 50 yards. The first group was fired using a 6:00 hold to see where the POI was, and so as not to have any "overs" over the berm. This group was a center hold. (Note that somebody cross-fired on my target with a .22!)

45-70 Ranger · April 19, 2011, 06:18 PM

tpelle,
Fine shooting sir at 50 yds.! Salute! Glad you have such good fortune to have a great shooter without the need to work on it!!!!

Wade

BHP FAN · April 19, 2011, 11:54 PM

latest additions..

Captain*kirk · April 20, 2011, 11:10 PM

Interesting look on that pair. Manufacturer?

BHP FAN · April 21, 2011, 10:37 AM

Pietta's ''Old Silver''...

kbbailey · April 21, 2011, 11:01 AM

----MYKEAL----

What's the target count??

bprevolver · April 21, 2011, 12:59 PM

I would like to buy Remington New Model Army replica revolvers made by Witloe Precision Inc. Two models were made. The "Lee" model has a bronze frame and the "Grant" model has a steel frame.

Also, 2nd Generation Witloe’s produced by R. T. Lane.

Any information about these is also needed. I have started a registry to help identify these revolvers.

Call toll free: 866-322-6854

scrat · April 21, 2011, 11:25 PM

if any of you guys needs an extra cylinder selling my OE one. for pietta 1858 .44 in the selling section. Only used once then the gun was converted to shoot 45colt.

first $35 gets it delivered.

scrat · April 22, 2011, 12:57 AM

Sold Pending Funds.

BHP FAN · April 22, 2011, 11:10 AM

dang it! seconds!

dlon21 · April 22, 2011, 07:16 PM

I tried out my old .44 yesterday. This is how it performed with a .457 ball, ca 25 gr Pyrodex P, and some cornmeal filler. 25 meters, sitting with sandbag for support. Pretty decent result. 3 shots with a max charge of Pyro P showed 1179, 1201, and 1208 fps on my Chrony! Don't know the exact charge, but it was almost a full chamber. That's nothing to sneeze at. Love these 58's

Indian Outlaw · April 22, 2011, 07:30 PM

Quote:

I tried out my old .44 yesterday.

That looks like an original.

dlon21 · April 22, 2011, 07:56 PM

Sure is. A transitional NMA with a two line barrel adress.

alienbogey · April 22, 2011, 10:26 PM

Where are the postal match rules?

I've looked around - buried somewhere in the 387+posts on this thread?

Fingers McGee · April 23, 2011, 12:04 AM

Well, I guess I can become a member of this group of gun nuts now. Just bought a .36 Cal Uberti Remmie from around the 90s off of GunsAmerica. 98% or better condition from the listing. I just had to buy it cause the barrel marking is 'Primitive Arms Co., Branson, MO'. As soon as it comes in, I'll post some pictures & give a road test report.

FM

Hellgate · April 23, 2011, 01:06 AM

dlon21 and everybody else,
Note on his original how little metal there is where the barrel screws into the frame. The Piettas and Euroarms have much thicker frames in that area whereas the originals (see dlon21's pic) and Ubertis have very little. There is almost a straight taper from the frame to the barrel wheras there is a decided "step" on other makes. Some day I'd like to "heft" an original to get a feel for the weight and pointability. Thanks for the photo dlon.

mykeal · April 23, 2011, 06:53 AM

Fingers - welcome to the fold.

kbbailey - Just two, but I've been on travel for a week and just got home. Have to work at the range this weekend, but I'll get to the box on Monday and let you know then where we stand.

alienbogey - Way back on page 9, post numbers 216 and 219 in this thread.

Get them targets posted, boys and girls.

"There's not a moment to be lost!" - Capt. J. Aubrey

One-Time · April 23, 2011, 11:28 AM

Im gonna do the postal match soon, but not a fan of the 5 rounds when it holds 6 but anyway

ZVP · April 23, 2011, 02:10 PM

Remingtons.jpg
Great pictures of some wonderfull remington reproductions! Maany COOL Customs also!
I have two "stock" Piettia .44's that I just love to shoot. I hope they qualify me for this 'Lil Club!
I load mainly a 30 grain load with a Pistol Wad and Round Lead Ball. The Big one sometimes likes filler added if (I use Pyrodex) and there I use Crisco to top it off. The 5 1/2" likes just the basic Powder, Patch and Ball . Odd how they all differ, guns are like Womwn, ya gotta treat each one a little differently...
I have the sights on the short barrel regulated to dead-on @ 21 ft and it just drills out the 10 ring there! The 8" bbl has no sight mod and it shoots a touch high.
For Holsters, I have a Oklahoma Leather Cross-Draw for the 5 1/2". That one is a "natural" for this type of holster and a Strong side, Slim Jim for the full size. It's a fact Long Barrels are slow to draw.
I like the Remingtons because they pass spent caps so well and jams are less frequent than with Open Top Colt styles. I polished the cylinder pin to pervent powder drag and it really helps! I normally shoot 3 cylinder-fulls and then give em a quick wipe-down with Windex to prevent fouling. So far so good.
Very intresting string for us Remington Lovers!
ZVP

dlon21 · April 23, 2011, 02:49 PM

Hellgate, you're welcome. It was a great day at the range, and a really boring task cleaning up the gun when I got home. When the pyrodex is gone, I'm going to start using real black powder exclusively. A big difference in the fouling...

Oh, what performance do you guys get with a full load of anything in a 1858? 1200 fps seems too good to be true??

regards

avan47 · April 23, 2011, 03:39 PM

Cabela’s color case hardened frame .44 NMA. Not authentic, but I think it looks good. Shoots good too.

BHP FAN · April 23, 2011, 03:56 PM

I just got one, too. I think it's the handsomest black powder revolver made, bar none.

ZVP · April 25, 2011, 03:49 PM

1200 fps is pretty high to expect from a .44! I'd go with around 700fps for a 35 gr load of powder. Usually you can expect 1000fps from max loads in a .36 caliber revolver. Being conservative in my powder fills,I go more for accuracy than maximum velocity though.
Just out of curiousity (and not to be combative) why are you going for max velocity? Are you going to use the gun for hunting?
You can get power levels up by loading heavy Conical bullets but velocity suffers. The f/p readings will be higher than a round ball.
ZVP

dlon21 · April 25, 2011, 04:38 PM

Handgun hunting is forbidden here in Sweden. Why? I was curious how it would perform with a chamber full of pyro p. And 3 shots gave similar readings, 1179, 1201, 1208 fps. My target load is a charge thrown from my flask, about 25grs. And it does fine using that load.

SleazyRider · April 25, 2011, 05:47 PM

Hey Avan47, does that snail capper work with your 1858 Remmy?
... And give us the details on that handsome holster!

April 19, 2011, 11:54 PM	#378
BHP FAN Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,393	latest additions.. __________________ SASS # 38375 {''Willyboy''} THR Remington Club #14 NRA Life Member ''Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you...'' - Benjamin Franklin

April 20, 2011, 11:10 PM	#379
Captain*kirk Member Join Date: October 22, 2010 Location: Waukegan, IL Posts: 189	Interesting look on that pair. Manufacturer? __________________ "You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?"

April 21, 2011, 10:37 AM	#380
BHP FAN Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,393	Pietta's ''Old Silver''... __________________ SASS # 38375 {''Willyboy''} THR Remington Club #14 NRA Life Member ''Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you...'' - Benjamin Franklin

April 21, 2011, 11:01 AM	#381
kbbailey Member Join Date: March 28, 2010 Location: South Eastern Illinois Posts: 1,538	----MYKEAL---- What's the target count?? __________________ PM A.F.&A.M. ATA, ITA, NRA Life Member; NMLRA Member

April 21, 2011, 12:59 PM	#382
bprevolver Member Join Date: May 9, 2007 Location: Claremore, OK Posts: 62	Witloe Remington New Model Army I would like to buy Remington New Model Army replica revolvers made by Witloe Precision Inc. Two models were made. The "Lee" model has a bronze frame and the "Grant" model has a steel frame. Also, 2nd Generation Witloe’s produced by R. T. Lane. Any information about these is also needed. I have started a registry to help identify these revolvers. Call toll free: 866-322-6854

April 19, 2011, 05:22 PM	#376
tpelle Member Join Date: December 29, 2003 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 285	Here's mine: Pictured is the second group of five ever fired out of mine, on a shoot-n-c target at 50 yards. The first group was fired using a 6:00 hold to see where the POI was, and so as not to have any "overs" over the berm. This group was a center hold. (Note that somebody cross-fired on my target with a .22!)

April 19, 2011, 06:18 PM	#377
45-70 Ranger Member Join Date: December 16, 2010 Posts: 337	tpelle, Fine shooting sir at 50 yds.! Salute! Glad you have such good fortune to have a great shooter without the need to work on it!!!! Wade

April 21, 2011, 11:25 PM	#383
scrat Member Join Date: January 27, 2007 Location: Monrovia, CA Posts: 6,882	if any of you guys needs an extra cylinder selling my OE one. for pietta 1858 .44 in the selling section. Only used once then the gun was converted to shoot 45colt. first $35 gets it delivered. __________________ *MOLON LABE*

April 22, 2011, 12:57 AM	#384
scrat Member Join Date: January 27, 2007 Location: Monrovia, CA Posts: 6,882	Sold Pending Funds. __________________ *MOLON LABE*

April 22, 2011, 11:10 AM	#385
BHP FAN Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,393	dang it! seconds! __________________ SASS # 38375 {''Willyboy''} THR Remington Club #14 NRA Life Member ''Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you...'' - Benjamin Franklin

April 22, 2011, 07:56 PM	#388
dlon21 Member Join Date: January 18, 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 145	Sure is. A transitional NMA with a two line barrel adress.

April 22, 2011, 10:26 PM	#389
alienbogey Member Join Date: December 23, 2009 Posts: 257	Where are the postal match rules? I've looked around - buried somewhere in the 387+posts on this thread? Last edited by alienbogey; April 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM.

April 23, 2011, 12:04 AM	#390
Fingers McGee Member Join Date: April 5, 2009 Location: High and dry in the Missouri Ozarks Posts: 1,026	Well, I guess I can become a member of this group of gun nuts now. Just bought a .36 Cal Uberti Remmie from around the 90s off of GunsAmerica. 98% or better condition from the listing. I just had to buy it cause the barrel marking is 'Primitive Arms Co., Branson, MO'. As soon as it comes in, I'll post some pictures & give a road test report. FM __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee; SASS Regulator 28654-LTG; AKA Man of many Colt's; Rangemaster, Frontiersman and stage writer extraordinaire, USArmy (Ret), NRA Endowment Life Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they should be - Ambrose Bierce

April 23, 2011, 01:06 AM	#391
Hellgate Member Join Date: January 11, 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 1,033	dlon21 and everybody else, Note on his original how little metal there is where the barrel screws into the frame. The Piettas and Euroarms have much thicker frames in that area whereas the originals (see dlon21's pic) and Ubertis have very little. There is almost a straight taper from the frame to the barrel wheras there is a decided "step" on other makes. Some day I'd like to "heft" an original to get a feel for the weight and pointability. Thanks for the photo dlon. __________________ Gun control= OSHA for criminals With over 15 C&Bs, I've been called the Imelda Marcos of Cap&Ball SASS #3302 (Life), Regulator NRA Life

April 23, 2011, 06:53 AM	#392
mykeal Member Join Date: September 9, 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,892	Fingers - welcome to the fold. kbbailey - Just two, but I've been on travel for a week and just got home. Have to work at the range this weekend, but I'll get to the box on Monday and let you know then where we stand. alienbogey - Way back on page 9, post numbers 216 and 219 in this thread. Get them targets posted, boys and girls. "There's not a moment to be lost!" - Capt. J. Aubrey

April 23, 2011, 11:28 AM	#393
One-Time Member Join Date: August 18, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 498	Im gonna do the postal match soon, but not a fan of the 5 rounds when it holds 6 but anyway __________________ *"I dont have an attitude problem, I have a stupid people problem!"* ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

April 23, 2011, 02:10 PM	#394
ZVP Member Join Date: May 20, 2010 Posts: 346	Remingtons.jpg Great pictures of some wonderfull remington reproductions! Maany COOL Customs also! I have two "stock" Piettia .44's that I just love to shoot. I hope they qualify me for this 'Lil Club! I load mainly a 30 grain load with a Pistol Wad and Round Lead Ball. The Big one sometimes likes filler added if (I use Pyrodex) and there I use Crisco to top it off. The 5 1/2" likes just the basic Powder, Patch and Ball . Odd how they all differ, guns are like Womwn, ya gotta treat each one a little differently... I have the sights on the short barrel regulated to dead-on @ 21 ft and it just drills out the 10 ring there! The 8" bbl has no sight mod and it shoots a touch high. For Holsters, I have a Oklahoma Leather Cross-Draw for the 5 1/2". That one is a "natural" for this type of holster and a Strong side, Slim Jim for the full size. It's a fact Long Barrels are slow to draw. I like the Remingtons because they pass spent caps so well and jams are less frequent than with Open Top Colt styles. I polished the cylinder pin to pervent powder drag and it really helps! I normally shoot 3 cylinder-fulls and then give em a quick wipe-down with Windex to prevent fouling. So far so good. Very intresting string for us Remington Lovers! ZVP

April 23, 2011, 02:49 PM	#395
dlon21 Member Join Date: January 18, 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 145	Hellgate, you're welcome. It was a great day at the range, and a really boring task cleaning up the gun when I got home. When the pyrodex is gone, I'm going to start using real black powder exclusively. A big difference in the fouling... Oh, what performance do you guys get with a full load of anything in a 1858? 1200 fps seems too good to be true?? regards

April 23, 2011, 03:56 PM	#397
BHP FAN Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,393	I just got one, too. I think it's the handsomest black powder revolver made, bar none. __________________ SASS # 38375 {''Willyboy''} THR Remington Club #14 NRA Life Member ''Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you...'' - Benjamin Franklin

April 25, 2011, 03:49 PM	#398
ZVP Member Join Date: May 20, 2010 Posts: 346	1200 fps is pretty high to expect from a .44! I'd go with around 700fps for a 35 gr load of powder. Usually you can expect 1000fps from max loads in a .36 caliber revolver. Being conservative in my powder fills,I go more for accuracy than maximum velocity though. Just out of curiousity (and not to be combative) why are you going for max velocity? Are you going to use the gun for hunting? You can get power levels up by loading heavy Conical bullets but velocity suffers. The f/p readings will be higher than a round ball. ZVP

April 25, 2011, 04:38 PM	#399
dlon21 Member Join Date: January 18, 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 145	hey zvp, Handgun hunting is forbidden here in Sweden. Why? I was curious how it would perform with a chamber full of pyro p. And 3 shots gave similar readings, 1179, 1201, 1208 fps. My target load is a charge thrown from my flask, about 25grs. And it does fine using that load.

April 25, 2011, 05:47 PM	#400
SleazyRider Member Join Date: February 25, 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,240	Avan47, Hey Avan47, does that snail capper work with your 1858 Remmy? ... And give us the details on that handsome holster!