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Old July 14, 2016, 12:51 PM   #1
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FNS 9mm double action for IDPA

I have been shooting a very friendly Springfield Armory .45 ACP in IDPA but want to get a 9MM.

The FNS fits wonderfully in my hand and aims well, but I wonder if it is a good choice to go from Single Action to Double Action.

Your thoughts?
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Old July 14, 2016, 01:16 PM   #2
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It is a striker fired action that feels generally like most any other Glock, M&P, etc, although I would say stock for stock it is below average vs. most of the others. But chances are you will want to improve it regardless.

Not sure how much aftermarket support there is to accomplish that.
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Old July 14, 2016, 02:12 PM   #3
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Do you perhaps mean the FNP?

Like NY said, FNS is Striker, if I recall.
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Old July 14, 2016, 10:18 PM   #4
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Yes FNS is striker fired. But, frankly I don’t care whether it is or not. It acts as a Double action, necessarily.


Does a double action make sense for IDPA?

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Old July 14, 2016, 10:24 PM   #5
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IDPA is dominated by Glocks and M&P's in terms of the overall quantity, so yeah, no reason not to shoot one if you like them. Trigger type is largely personal preference.
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Old July 15, 2016, 06:10 PM   #6
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I wonder if it is a good choice to go from Single Action to Double Action

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Yes FNS is striker fired. But, frankly I don’t care whether it is or not. It acts as a Double action, necessarily.
Well, labels aside, to me (a DA revolver and M&P shooter), a striker-fired trigger (particularly a tuned one) feels a lot closer to a SA trigger than a true DA trigger. The latter has much more travel than a striker-fired trigger.

As ny32182 offered, striker-fired pistols are exceedingly popular in IDPA. So long as the gun itself agrees with you (I shoot my M&P fine, but can't shoot Glocks to save my life), I don't think you'd have much trouble transitioning to a striker-fired gun if your fundamentals are sound.
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Old July 16, 2016, 08:47 AM   #7
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I have been shooting a very friendly Springfield Armory .45 ACP in IDPA but want to get a 9MM.
Just out of curiosity, why not just select a 1911 in 9mm? Six of the nine models offered by Springfield Armory are available in 9mm.

I agree you should be able to transition well to a striker fired gun, and if that's something you particularly went, then by all means go for it. I'm just wondering why bother with that transition at all? And I'm not a 1911 guy, so my question isn't coming from 1911 fanboy bias.
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Old July 16, 2016, 09:35 AM   #8
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A 9mm 1911 is a pretty sweet shooter, but be aware that, as a runNgun competition gun, it's got "versatility issues", being pretty much limited to the ESP class of IDPA. And, AFAIK, there's no place for it in USPSA if you even get that itch. A striker-fired 9mm has much more overall utility as a game gun.
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Old July 16, 2016, 11:38 AM   #9
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A DA/SA has its advantages and disadvantages over a striker fired gun for competition.

The main advantage of a striker fired gun is its the same pull everytime.

For a DA/SA gun will have a first pull equal to or worse than some striker first guns but the SA pull will be way better than any striker fired gun. ( assuming both are tuned)

There's really no right or wrong gun as its more the indian than the arrow so just shoot what you perfer.
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Old July 18, 2016, 09:30 AM   #10
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The double stack 9mm 1911's that are popular as the racy guns in ESP have no real home in USPSA, that is true. You can shoot them in Limited (minor) but you will not be competitive against the 95% of people shooting major in Limited, all else equal.

You can shoot a single stack 9mm 1911 in USPSA singlestack, and minor in SS is viable depending on the match/stage design. Some SS guys now literally bring both major and minor sets of gear to a match and then decide which one to use for that match after viewing the stages. However, if you are looking for a single crossover gun, you probably don't want to shoot a single stack gun in ESP if you can help it.

Best option for a gun that will be competitive in both is a striker or DA/SA gun that will go into SSP and Production.
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Old July 18, 2016, 09:47 AM   #11
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I shoot mostly IDPA.
If it is not a Glock, Plastic M&P, or 1911; you are kind of swimming upstream.
Sure, any reliable 9mm (or larger) that fits The Box can be made to work.

DA/SAs are not common, but they are out there. Perhaps they will gain in popularity as they have in IPSC and USPSA. They are very common in IPSC Production because the rules require a minimum trigger pull, 5 lbs or the metric equivalent. That means that if you shoot a Glock or such, it will have a 5 lb trigger all the time. If you shoot a CZ, you will have maybe an 8 lb DA start but followed by a 3 lb SA for the rest of the stage.
The hair trigger Glocks seen here are not allowed.
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Old July 18, 2016, 02:29 PM   #12
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A 9mm 1911 is a pretty sweet shooter, but be aware that, as a runNgun competition gun, it's got "versatility issues", being pretty much limited to the ESP class of IDPA. And, AFAIK, there's no place for it in USPSA if you even get that itch. A striker-fired 9mm has much more overall utility as a game gun.
You can shoot a 9mm 1911 in USPSA Single stack. I'd actually prefer one over a 45 because I'd rather have the extra bullets than be scored Major and only have 8
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