.41 Mag Association - Page 15

S.B. · April 28, 2012, 04:37 PM

I'm aware of this website but, I'm not dependant on the printed word to make decisions for me. My 260 grainer .41 bullet sports a 93% meplat. I try to learn and live by trial and error(my own experiences). Dont forget to let me know what book Elmer stated that in, please? I'm a big fan of Keiths.
Steve

336A · April 28, 2012, 04:42 PM

Keith didn't write it I found it here http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Chapter_12_KeithSWC.htm

But it is also simple physics the more bullet shank in the case the higher the pressure will be when all else is the same. In fact there is an article discussing this very topic by Brian Pearce in the recent Handloader magazine.

336A · April 28, 2012, 04:45 PM

What Mr. Stanton wrote there was actually exhibited here in real life http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/view...ghlight=magnum

So now we have two well known individuals basicly saying the same thing and a individual that accomplished exactly what they said would happen. As the ol' saying goes the proof is in the puddin'.

336A · April 28, 2012, 04:50 PM

BTW Mr. Stanton is not some run of the mill gun rag writer. He has more knowledge about the effeciveness of cast bullets on game in the hunting fields probably than most people that post here. I for one am not going to refute his knowledge on the subject as it is much more vast than my own.

Jrodcody · May 3, 2012, 10:39 PM

I'm applying for membership!

I wanted to put my two cents in on a post today, and someone pointed out that I should head here! Fun read and I like to read about everyone's input...

I picked up a 44 marlin quite some years ago. It shot terribly and I didn't like it. I sold it and bought a blackhawk in 41. Hmmm... I liked it. So I found a Marlin to go with it, then a Model 57, then a Redhawk, then... Well, you get the picture. It's an illness, but I am currently refusing help.

I just added to the collection an import gun from Italy, an Armi Jager, labeled Liberty Arms Model Nevada. I haven't even seen it yet, and even though it is what it is (a cheap import SAA knockoff), you sure don't see them every day.

I am currently dying for a stainless marlin from the limited run and a dan wesson pistol pac.

I just love to shoot the 41, and load for it. I shot a pretty nice buck with my blackhawk flattop last fall. I am wanting to "blood" all of my 41s. Too bad I'm in Illinois, so it has to be for a coyote to get the Marlins some work.

Glad to have found this thread, and some like minded folks!

**Walkalong** · May 4, 2012, 09:45 PM

Quote:

I am currently refusing help

Good man.

bottlerocket · June 23, 2012, 08:15 PM

So I've been searching everywhere for load data, but cant seem to find anything for a baseline for 190gr Hornady Flextip bullets. Trying to build a load for a Marlin 1894, any help?

Bush Pilot · June 23, 2012, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bottlerocket

So I've been searching everywhere for load data, but cant seem to find anything for a baseline for 190gr Hornady Flextip bullets. Trying to build a load for a Marlin 1894, any help?

Are you sure these are for .41 magnum? I can't seem to find them anywhere in that configuration/weight.

336A · June 24, 2012, 10:45 AM

where did you find these bullets? I've never seen much less heard of 190gr .410" bullets in this configuration.

wankerjake · June 24, 2012, 11:38 AM

Sigh... I will join eventually. It seems like a great cartridge, I just haven't found a good deal on one yet. I will someday, and I will acquire one eventually.

W.E.G. · June 24, 2012, 12:51 PM

Wanted to add the 57 to my post on page 1, and realized the Three-Screw image was moved in one of my Photobucket reorganizations.

Original post too old to edit here, so back into the fray...

vintage catalog images from this old book I got when I was a kid:

Art Keys · June 24, 2012, 10:06 PM

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h8...7/DSCN1916.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h8...7/DSCN1917.jpg

I really need an objective view so to error on the side of safety. Here's my idea and I'm just getting info at this time. I remember my dad and friends many years ago shooting lead round balls as plinking fodder out of their 38 spl and 357's. I found a place that will cast me some .410 to .411 lead round balls. I'm approaching this topic from a new re-loader's stand point because I have no experience in loading round balls. I remember Speer used to show data for like 45 and 44 round ball loads but I never hear of anything printed by a powder company in 41 cal. SO......

A) Have any of you shot a round ball loads in your 41 magnum?
B) Is it possible with a pure lead roundie? S&W 57-1 1-18 1/2 twist? to fast twist?
c) Or am I going down, leaded barrel hell road?

I apologize for sounding like a nervous Nellie, but I take Safety very serious when I reload. Safety is everything to me. I have kids to take care of.

Last here's my first 41 remington magnum, thank you guys for taking the time to read.

Art K.

Missionary · June 25, 2012, 06:07 AM

Good morning
Yes.. RB is an easy route to go.
.411 is going to be where to start. That very little bearing surface on the outer diameter needs the gripping power. I would actually use a 50/50 mix. You must lube those balls. Lee lube will work fine.
Use a very fast pistol powder. 231 works well. Unique is as slow as I would try. Find the lightest load in any manual and then start reducing the charge in .2 grain increments until you reach the "sneeze" load you want.
If loading multiple balls remember the case tapers on the inside and if you push the balls deep you will swage the pure lead down to under diameter. Most leading problems are due to undersized lead bullets.

Bush Pilot · June 25, 2012, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.E.G.

Wanted to add the 57 to my post on page 1, and realized the Three-Screw image was moved in one of my Photobucket reorganizations.

Original post too old to edit here, so back into the fray...

vintage catalog images from this old book I got when I was a kid:

Anyone that would pay those kind of prices for a .41 must have a screw loose.

bottlerocket · June 27, 2012, 04:26 PM

@bushpilot and 336A

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/919...-bulk-packaged

claimbuster · July 6, 2012, 07:02 AM

Many, many, like in forty years ago, I had a 6" and 4" M57. Both beautiful guns. As a deputy sheriff, I carried the 4" version. Fast forward, both M57's long gone and found a new model Blackhawk FT 41M. With a boat load of back problems I never shot it and sold it last week.

However, life is not all bad. I will pickup a new FA M97 6.5" 41M next week. I dug out 250 rds. of home brewed 215gr. SWC's and I am ready to go.

Domino300 · July 12, 2012, 10:00 PM

Claimbuster,
Get the 97 yet?

Bush Pilot · July 13, 2012, 12:11 AM

PLEASE, don't post a picture of the FA in .41 mag. I've been wanting one of those and a picture might push me over the edge. I've been spending money like a drunk sailor lately and all I need is another gun.

Domino300 · July 13, 2012, 11:08 AM

LOL, I know the feeling!

336A · July 23, 2012, 02:12 PM

.41 MAG, have you ever recovered any of those Rem 200gr SJHP bullets? if so could you post a pic. Also where does one find loading info for that specific bullet? I've been thinking about giving this bullet a whirl just for giggles.

Tag1 · July 23, 2012, 07:44 PM

Sign me up!

Is there a "secret " handshake or anything?

Just purchased a Blackhawk 6 1/2". Ran 100 rounds of GA Arms 210gr cowboy loads through her over the weekend. Very light rounds. I ordered my Lee press recently and will be loading my own shortly.

My other revolver is a Smith 19-3 4" very low round count, 69' vintage. Have 3 Glocks and numerous rifles. .41 is the "Deal" though. Man I love that thing!

44-henry · July 23, 2012, 08:53 PM

I've had a S&W 57 no dash with an 8 3/8" barrel for several years; however, I guess I should officially join the club. I have been shooting Lee 195 grain SWC's in it with varying loads of 2400. A few years back I decided to start hunting deer with all my handguns working backwards in caliber. I have so far taken deer with the 45 colt and 44 magnum, this year it is the 41's turn.

336A · July 24, 2012, 07:57 AM

Welcome aboard fellas' always glad to have more. I hope you enjoy your new toy Tag and be sure to let us know how it shoots.

336A · July 26, 2012, 10:52 AM

Have any of you associates contacted Midway about placeing an order with Rem for a run of 170gr SJHP bullets? I did the other day but I'm still waiting to hear back. It would be great if us associates could make a concentrated effort and contact Midway for this bullet, hey you never know.

BTW does anyone remember what the specs were for that ammunition as loaded by Remington?

Bush Pilot · July 26, 2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 336A

Have any of you associates contacted Midway about placeing an order with Rem for a run of 170gr SJHP bullets? I did the other day but I'm still waiting to hear back. It would be great if us associates could make a concentrated effort and contact Midway for this bullet, hey you never know.

BTW does anyone remember what the specs were for that ammunition as loaded by Remington?

If we can put together an order thru Midway (or another company) I'll take at least a thousand.

April 28, 2012, 04:37 PM	#351
S.B. Member Join Date: August 10, 2004 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 174	I'm aware of this website but, I'm not dependant on the printed word to make decisions for me. My 260 grainer .41 bullet sports a 93% meplat. I try to learn and live by trial and error(my own experiences). Dont forget to let me know what book Elmer stated that in, please? I'm a big fan of Keiths. Steve __________________ The Original Point and Click Interface was a Smith & Wesson

April 28, 2012, 04:42 PM	#352
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	Keith didn't write it I found it here http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Chapter_12_KeithSWC.htm But it is also simple physics the more bullet shank in the case the higher the pressure will be when all else is the same. In fact there is an article discussing this very topic by Brian Pearce in the recent Handloader magazine. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator Last edited by 336A; April 28, 2012 at 08:08 PM.

April 28, 2012, 04:45 PM	#353
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	What Mr. Stanton wrote there was actually exhibited here in real life http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/view...ghlight=magnum So now we have two well known individuals basicly saying the same thing and a individual that accomplished exactly what they said would happen. As the ol' saying goes the proof is in the puddin'. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator Last edited by 336A; April 28, 2012 at 08:06 PM.

April 28, 2012, 04:50 PM	#354
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	BTW Mr. Stanton is not some run of the mill gun rag writer. He has more knowledge about the effeciveness of cast bullets on game in the hunting fields probably than most people that post here. I for one am not going to refute his knowledge on the subject as it is much more vast than my own. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 24, 2012, 10:45 AM	#359
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	where did you find these bullets? I've never seen much less heard of 190gr .410" bullets in this configuration. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

May 3, 2012, 10:39 PM	#355
Jrodcody Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Western Illinois Posts: 7	I'm applying for membership! I wanted to put my two cents in on a post today, and someone pointed out that I should head here! Fun read and I like to read about everyone's input... I picked up a 44 marlin quite some years ago. It shot terribly and I didn't like it. I sold it and bought a blackhawk in 41. Hmmm... I liked it. So I found a Marlin to go with it, then a Model 57, then a Redhawk, then... Well, you get the picture. It's an illness, but I am currently refusing help. I just added to the collection an import gun from Italy, an Armi Jager, labeled Liberty Arms Model Nevada. I haven't even seen it yet, and even though it is what it is (a cheap import SAA knockoff), you sure don't see them every day. I am currently dying for a stainless marlin from the limited run and a dan wesson pistol pac. I just love to shoot the 41, and load for it. I shot a pretty nice buck with my blackhawk flattop last fall. I am wanting to "blood" all of my 41s. Too bad I'm in Illinois, so it has to be for a coyote to get the Marlins some work. Glad to have found this thread, and some like minded folks!

June 23, 2012, 08:15 PM	#357
bottlerocket Member Join Date: June 3, 2011 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 59	So I've been searching everywhere for load data, but cant seem to find anything for a baseline for 190gr Hornady Flextip bullets. Trying to build a load for a Marlin 1894, any help?

June 24, 2012, 11:38 AM	#360
wankerjake Member Join Date: April 6, 2008 Location: Flagstaff AZ Posts: 1,452	Sigh... I will join eventually. It seems like a great cartridge, I just haven't found a good deal on one yet. I will someday, and I will acquire one eventually. __________________ "I can skin a buck and I can run a trot line, and a country boy can survive." "Once you quit hearing sir and ma'am, the rest is soon to follow."

June 24, 2012, 12:51 PM	#361
W.E.G. Member Join Date: September 26, 2006 Location: all over Virginia Posts: 6,404	Wanted to add the 57 to my post on page 1, and realized the Three-Screw image was moved in one of my Photobucket reorganizations. Original post too old to edit here, so back into the fray... vintage catalog images from this old book I got when I was a kid:

June 24, 2012, 10:06 PM	#362
Art Keys Member Join Date: June 20, 2012 Location: N. C. Arkansas Posts: 7	New 41 Target Magnum 6" Nickle 57-1 Owner, I have a question...... http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h8...7/DSCN1916.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h8...7/DSCN1917.jpg I really need an objective view so to error on the side of safety. Here's my idea and I'm just getting info at this time. I remember my dad and friends many years ago shooting lead round balls as plinking fodder out of their 38 spl and 357's. I found a place that will cast me some .410 to .411 lead round balls. I'm approaching this topic from a new re-loader's stand point because I have no experience in loading round balls. I remember Speer used to show data for like 45 and 44 round ball loads but I never hear of anything printed by a powder company in 41 cal. SO...... A) Have any of you shot a round ball loads in your 41 magnum? B) Is it possible with a pure lead roundie? S&W 57-1 1-18 1/2 twist? to fast twist? c) Or am I going down, leaded barrel hell road? I apologize for sounding like a nervous Nellie, but I take Safety very serious when I reload. Safety is everything to me. I have kids to take care of. Last here's my first 41 remington magnum, thank you guys for taking the time to read. Art K.

June 25, 2012, 06:07 AM	#363
Missionary Member Join Date: September 8, 2011 Posts: 147	Good morning Yes.. RB is an easy route to go. .411 is going to be where to start. That very little bearing surface on the outer diameter needs the gripping power. I would actually use a 50/50 mix. You must lube those balls. Lee lube will work fine. Use a very fast pistol powder. 231 works well. Unique is as slow as I would try. Find the lightest load in any manual and then start reducing the charge in .2 grain increments until you reach the "sneeze" load you want. If loading multiple balls remember the case tapers on the inside and if you push the balls deep you will swage the pure lead down to under diameter. Most leading problems are due to undersized lead bullets.

June 27, 2012, 04:26 PM	#365
bottlerocket Member Join Date: June 3, 2011 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 59	@bushpilot and 336A http://www.midwayusa.com/product/919...-bulk-packaged

July 6, 2012, 07:02 AM	#366
claimbuster Member Join Date: May 30, 2006 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 3	Many, many, like in forty years ago, I had a 6" and 4" M57. Both beautiful guns. As a deputy sheriff, I carried the 4" version. Fast forward, both M57's long gone and found a new model Blackhawk FT 41M. With a boat load of back problems I never shot it and sold it last week. However, life is not all bad. I will pickup a new FA M97 6.5" 41M next week. I dug out 250 rds. of home brewed 215gr. SWC's and I am ready to go.

July 12, 2012, 10:00 PM	#367
Domino300 Member Join Date: August 2, 2009 Location: NC Ohio Posts: 45	Claimbuster, Get the 97 yet?

July 13, 2012, 12:11 AM	#368
Bush Pilot Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Posts: 980	PLEASE, don't post a picture of the FA in .41 mag. I've been wanting one of those and a picture might push me over the edge. I've been spending money like a drunk sailor lately and all I need is another gun.

July 13, 2012, 11:08 AM	#369
Domino300 Member Join Date: August 2, 2009 Location: NC Ohio Posts: 45	LOL, I know the feeling!

July 23, 2012, 02:12 PM	#370
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	.41 MAG, have you ever recovered any of those Rem 200gr SJHP bullets? if so could you post a pic. Also where does one find loading info for that specific bullet? I've been thinking about giving this bullet a whirl just for giggles. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

July 23, 2012, 07:44 PM	#371
Tag1 Member Join Date: July 8, 2012 Posts: 7	Sign me up! Is there a "secret " handshake or anything? Just purchased a Blackhawk 6 1/2". Ran 100 rounds of GA Arms 210gr cowboy loads through her over the weekend. Very light rounds. I ordered my Lee press recently and will be loading my own shortly. My other revolver is a Smith 19-3 4" very low round count, 69' vintage. Have 3 Glocks and numerous rifles. .41 is the "Deal" though. Man I love that thing!

July 23, 2012, 08:53 PM	#372
44-henry Member Join Date: July 13, 2005 Location: ND Posts: 139	I've had a S&W 57 no dash with an 8 3/8" barrel for several years; however, I guess I should officially join the club. I have been shooting Lee 195 grain SWC's in it with varying loads of 2400. A few years back I decided to start hunting deer with all my handguns working backwards in caliber. I have so far taken deer with the 45 colt and 44 magnum, this year it is the 41's turn.

July 24, 2012, 07:57 AM	#373
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	Welcome aboard fellas' always glad to have more. I hope you enjoy your new toy Tag and be sure to let us know how it shoots. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

July 26, 2012, 10:52 AM	#374
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 798	Have any of you associates contacted Midway about placeing an order with Rem for a run of 170gr SJHP bullets? I did the other day but I'm still waiting to hear back. It would be great if us associates could make a concentrated effort and contact Midway for this bullet, hey you never know. BTW does anyone remember what the specs were for that ammunition as loaded by Remington? __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator