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Old June 23, 2011, 03:23 PM   #26
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Wow were is everyone I thought there were more .41 mag afficinado's here. BTW my Simplr Rugged Range Master Holster just arrived for the BH
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Old June 25, 2011, 03:48 PM   #27
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Tuner, where do you find 170 gr. Remington SJHP bullets? Thought they were discontinued... But, they do make an awesome load. I got an honest 1600 fps (6" bbl.) from both factory and handloads with that bullet.
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Old June 25, 2011, 04:03 PM   #28
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Here are some links for the group to some various ammo companies that sell ammuntion for the .41 mag
Appreciated. But what I'd really like is a milder factory SD load: dependably opening HP driven at 1000-1100 fps.

Seems like the factories have decided that all .41s shall have a nominal muzzle velocity of 1250 and up--and most often weights 210 grains and up. Some 170s are going over 1600; I just don't need that recoil for SD.

Sure, it's a great hunting round; but it has a great potential for versatility. It's just that you can't get at that lower-power end of its versatility--where the optimal SD balance is, IMHO--without handloading. And that's a shame, since it was designed with that versatility in mind.

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Old June 25, 2011, 04:24 PM   #29
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You can buy loaded .41 SPL from Reed's Ammo featuring a 170gr bullet.
http://shop.reedsammo.com/product.sc...categoryId=163
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Old June 25, 2011, 05:10 PM   #30
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The Winchester Silvertip 175 grain is loaded to about 1200 or so. Stiff, but not at all punishing. Expensive, and seldom seen on shelves...in this area at least.
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Old June 25, 2011, 05:40 PM   #31
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Old June 25, 2011, 10:32 PM   #32
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I'm in too, New owner of a Ruger SBH and loving it. I have only loaded a few rounds with AA #5 and AA #9. So far, 10.3gr of #5 seem to shoot well with a Lee 195gr SWC molded from water quenched WW's. Will be developing a hunting load with Hornady 210gr XTP and AA #9.
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Old June 26, 2011, 12:44 AM   #33
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This thread makes me feel..... so...so....normal. I'm a loner when it comes to the .41 mag and I was starting to feel like an outcast until now....thanks guys...oh yeah..I have a 80s mod 57 6" that is my fav of all handguns.I also have a Blackhawk 6 1/2" with several after market improvements that make it a little bit nicer to shoot.
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Old June 26, 2011, 06:59 AM   #34
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bucky...We are few, but we're dedicated.

Crittergitter...You'll probably have to haunt the gun shows for the occasional box of those bullets. I laid in a small stock of'em when they were available. Loaded hot, I think of it like the .357/125/1450 load on steroids. The Sierra 170 JHC is a good substitute, though, and probably expands a little more violently in ballistic gel.
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Old June 26, 2011, 07:56 AM   #35
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Wel 336a, there's nothing in NY that "needs" a 250 grain bullet, I've just never fired one out of my .41 Blackhawk! The 210 grain loads work on everything I have used them for really well.
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Old June 26, 2011, 09:07 AM   #36
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John, I'll bet that it will sting the hand a bit too. I don't know about the rest of you here, but I try to read everything I can get my hands on about the .41 magnum. I just came across these Just like the rest of his stuff they are well written articles. In the second article there is link to a handload data sheet as well be sure to give it a look as well.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/302.htm

http://www.realguns.com/articles/305.htm

http://www.realguns.com/articles/310.htm
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Old June 26, 2011, 09:17 AM   #37
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I like 41 Mag, as I stated earlier. A scoped 10" Bull barrel Contender can prove to be an astounding piece of equipment. I have a Ruger Blackhawk that has been modestly customized and an unaltered 57-1. I like them all, and I especially like the way cast bullets perform in the 41 Magnum. I have a stock of jacketed bullets but haven't loaded and fired one in over 20 years.
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Old June 26, 2011, 09:34 AM   #38
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Speaking of cast bullets for those of you that don't cast your own what vendor are you getting your bullets from? I'm having a difficult time finding a vendor that don't charge a arm and leg as well as one that makes to hard of a bullet. I really like the selection of Monatana cast bullets but their prices are crazy. I'm trying to find some cast bullets with a BHN of about 14. Most casters seem to cast their bullets with a BHN of 18 on avg. That is just to darn hard IMHO.
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Old June 26, 2011, 09:54 AM   #39
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336...Not long ago, I was sorta bad-mouthin' commercially cast bullets, when a PM popped up from the guy who owns and operates Dardas Bullets. He spoke frankly about my observations and said that he'd solved the problems...and offered to send 50 for me to test.

I agreed, and 3 days later, they arrived. 250-grain Keith-type SWCs neatly packed in a box with dividers weighed out to within +/- one grain. That's saying something for a high-volume caster.

Loaded up 30 of'em with my standard 8.5 grains of Unique to see if there'd be any leading from the 18BHN that he advertised, and the attendant leading from failure to obturate that I've seen from too-hard bullets in low pressure loadings.

There wasn't any. Smoke was minimal, and the bullets were at least as accurate as my own.

They're fairly pricey, but they're excellent cast bullets. If I were to stop casting and start buying...I'd buy Dardas even over Lasercast.
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Old June 26, 2011, 10:30 AM   #40
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For anyone needing a hardcast (bh=18) 215gr SWC loaded over 8.5 gr. Unique, (should run a little north of 1100 fps in most guns.)
Visit: doubleu x3 DOT appalachianammo DOT com or Google: Appalachian Ammunition, Inc. in Farmington, ME. I'd post the website but I don't want to get wacked for spamming.

It just happens that it is a stock item there.

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Old June 26, 2011, 10:49 AM   #41
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Heres one of my model 58's. Have 2 of them. Also have a 4" model 57. Can't get too many .41 Magnums!


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Old June 26, 2011, 11:02 AM   #42
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I like Model 58s. I like'em a lot.
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Old June 26, 2011, 12:05 PM   #43
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I, want to join. Mine is a 657, that saw little love before I, bought it. So far my best load is 15.5 grains of 2400, with a CCI 350 primer, under a 210 grain XTP.
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Old June 26, 2011, 12:30 PM   #44
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For cast bullets tailored to your specs try Rim Rock. Google Rim Rock, it will come up. Anytime you ship a weight factor like lead it is expensive. Ask them to do it USPS flat rate. I cast mine soft, probably less than 10, but they fit and I have no problem running them at 1200
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Old June 26, 2011, 01:14 PM   #45
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I have a S&W 657 with 7 1/4 barrel. I absolutely love the 41mag. I have been shooting the Hornady 210g XTp and some older Speer TMJ. I have been shooting TMJ with trail boss and it is pretty fun. I want to start shooting some cast bullets, but not sure who has a reasonably cost bullet that is not going to foul up my barrel like some do.

What I really want to find is a lever action in 41mag, but I am always a minute late or a dollar short.

Thanks for sharing your info regarding 41 and I look forward to more information coming down the pipe...
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Old June 26, 2011, 01:35 PM   #46
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19grs of 2400 and a 410459 is a perfect combination although I'm starting to experiment with LBT designs now.
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Old June 26, 2011, 02:53 PM   #47
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Yes, count me in. I have a .41 Mag. Blackhawk. I cast all my bullets except this one because I can't find a 250gr. Keith SWC mold.
I buy my bullets from RimRock.
I have a question and I don't mean any disrespect, but why does everybody tend to go for the 210-220gr. bullets over 240gr. and above?
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Old June 26, 2011, 03:53 PM   #48
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Well I just got back from the range. I tested Leadheads 215gr SWC over 8.5gr and 8.7gr of Unique @ 10yd off hand. I didn't even bother shooting the loads I had loaded with 8.9gr & 9.1gr as the other two were right on the money

Now I just have to figure out which load I want to settle on.
Here is the first target with 6rds of 8.5gr of Unique as you can see I pulled my first 2 rounds I'm still trying to get used to the single action grip frame.


I made a minor windage adjustment and shot the remaining 4 rnds again @ 10yd off hand, one shot completely missed


Here is the 8.7gr load, there is supposed to be 10 rnds but again I missed again


I hope that either of these two loads will be sufficient for the little piggies, what do you all think? There as slight leading but not as much as I thought there would be. It came out pretty easily with some hoppes #9 and a bore brush.

BTW you should have seen some of the looks I was getting from other folks at the range Especially when I strted to nail the 2" bull Everyone else was shooting eveywhere on the one of those FBI bad guy type targets.
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Old June 26, 2011, 04:03 PM   #49
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I'd like in. Have a 6" Model 57. Bought it about 2 years ago and couldn't find jacketed bullets for quite awhile so I've been shooting MBC Troopers over Unique. Just found a couple of boxes of XTPs at the Sportsmans Warehouse, so I'll be loading up some fun with the 2400 and 296 pretty soon! Just from shooting the cast loads though I can tell that the Model 27 won't be lonely for too long.

Looking forward to working up some deer hunting loads and having a go at it this fall.
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Old June 26, 2011, 04:11 PM   #50
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Camar I use the 210gt-220gr weight bullets because they are commonly available. Load data is pretty much everywhere too when compared to the heavier bullets.

420stainless welcome aboard I hope you have fun working up your hunting loads. I'm going to stick with cast bullets and Unique for while until I can master getting a good consistent grip on the BH.
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