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Old March 29, 2015, 08:02 PM   #1
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Crossbow from the Chin (Qin) Dynasty found

Xian is known for its terracotta army. Most of the weapons were looted centuries ago but archaeologists have uncovered an intact crossbow. Per historical texts, it had a maximum range of 2,600 feet.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peop...-Warriors.html

If China wants to sell us something, reproduce them (as well as their hopper fed crossbows).
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Old March 30, 2015, 09:03 AM   #2
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Very cool!
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Old March 31, 2015, 11:18 PM   #3
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Ditto the "Very cool!" and of course the press (Daily Mail) again completely distorts firearm facts with the claim the crossbow has a greater range than an assault rifle. Probably a case of the reporter comparing what the military determines is point target effective range of the rifle with the maximum area target range of the crossbow.
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Old April 1, 2015, 01:42 AM   #4
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That is seriously cool!
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Old April 1, 2015, 02:10 AM   #5
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Wonder what the other stuff around it was ???

Looks like bronzed baby booties, and a couple of UFO transmogrifier's off to the right??

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Old April 2, 2015, 01:16 AM   #6
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Those are the feet of the soldier where it snapped off the body. I think the other parts you are seeing are the hooves of a horse that are also broken off...likely from a cave in

When I was at Xian, I thought all the archers were kneeling
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Old April 2, 2015, 04:37 AM   #7
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it had a maximum range of 2,600 feet.
Neat find. But range of nearly 3 football fields??? Hmmmmm.....

That far exceeds modern compounds and bolts or arrows....
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Old April 2, 2015, 09:01 AM   #8
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Neat find. But range of nearly 3 football fields??? Hmmmmm.....

That far exceeds modern compounds and bolts or arrows....

This range is when shooting in vollies with multiple archers. Shooting the now at a 45 degree angle. When done with modern equipment you can probably get twice that range if not more.
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Old April 2, 2015, 09:11 AM   #9
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That's a very nice find.
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Old April 5, 2015, 03:55 PM   #10
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Look again a foot ball field is 300 feet so 8 and 2/3 foot ball fields, basically half a mile. Yeah, sure they might make it on the moon.

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Old April 5, 2015, 06:12 PM   #11
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I'm pretty sure that's an overthruster on the right, RC
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Old April 5, 2015, 06:53 PM   #12
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Neat find. But range of nearly 3 football fields??? Hmmmmm.....

That far exceeds modern compounds and bolts or arrows....
2,600 feet is 8.6 football fields.
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Old April 6, 2015, 12:20 AM   #13
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Look again a foot ball field is 300 feet so...
Look again. An American football field is 360 feet of playing surface length.
http://www.sportsknowhow.com/footbal...imensions.html
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Old April 6, 2015, 01:43 AM   #14
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This proves that we are not alone. The crossbow must be infused with some ancient astronaut extraterrestrial technology to propel it that far!

Really though, VERY cool find. Glad it didn't get looted.
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Old April 6, 2015, 08:58 AM   #15
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The things to the right appear to be just a vertical shot of a second pair of "broken" feet. The feet might have been included because that is how they might have cocked the crossbow.

There are also reports that the Chinese had giant bows that the archers laid on their backs, put their feet on the bow, pulled the string with their hands, raised their feet, and let go for longer distance volley fire. Someone might have gotten them mixed up at burying time.
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Ever notice how lots of finds result in setting back the time when people where thought to have "X" technology.... Pretty neat.
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Old April 7, 2015, 10:27 PM   #17
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Per historical texts, it had a maximum range of 2,600 feet
In terms of distance, I don’t know if the quote is correct, but, I am going to say, don’t discount it off hand. There might be something behind this.

I have the book “The Crossbow” by Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey. Sir Payne-Gallwey address the range of the mediaeval bow in chapter V : ”The ordinary military crossbow of the fifteenth century, with a thick steel bow, was able, if elevated to 45 degrees, to propel its bolt from 370 to 380 yards”

However, in the same chapter, Sir Payne-Gallwey discusses the Turkish bow and Turkish historical distance records shot with a hand drawn bow. ”It will be observed that the longest flight recorded on the columns selected for quotation is 838 yards, the shortest, 625 yards”


I am not 100% convinced that a hand held Chinese crossbow shot an arrow 2,600 feet, but I don't have enough data to state that it did not happen. So, while some historic claims appear to be fantastic, there are times when further investigation is warranted before dismissing them as a fantasy.
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2,600 feet is 8.6 football fields.
Yes, good catch... typing error, but the point was understood. Meant to type 9 football fields. Very small numbers on my phone.
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Old April 11, 2015, 03:26 PM   #19
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I would love to see more photos, and then an accurate replication using correct dimensions, materials, methods, and projectiles.
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Old April 11, 2015, 04:22 PM   #20
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It is 5' in length, so it is not the same as the crossbows people here are comparing to. More like artilery, firing up into the air.
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