Colt 1911 XSE Commander- Round Count Updated from Time to Time - Page 2

RyeDaddy · October 27, 2011, 08:10 PM

Just picked mine up today. Put 75 rounds through it right out of box without a hitch. ACCURATE! The duckbill grip safety has to go, and I'm gonna have it bob-tailed. Maybe have the slide done in black if it won't cover up the rollmarks. I really like it! Worth the wait and the money!

cyclopsshooter · October 27, 2011, 08:16 PM

NICE! Post a pic

cyclopsshooter · October 29, 2011, 04:15 PM

Just ran another quick 50 at 10 yards (still not cleaned)- used the ol proven 7 rounders and the two factory 8s No malfunctions with the 7 rounders but each of the 8 round mags did the same last round vertical jam-

My verdict is that Colts are reliable outa the box- no question about the pistol but be ware of the new mags Colt is putting out.

On another note, I think my brass is hitting the belt clip leaving a ding.. I'm just now getting into reloading (Dillon 550) will this ding cause reloading problems? (dinged case in photo)

Co-worker shot 8 more rounds while I was typing this-

Round Count: 270

cyclopsshooter · October 29, 2011, 07:16 PM

Couldnt help it... cleaned her for the first time at 270 rounds, she was a dirty girl with that cheap ball.

Ordered some low-rise Novak night sights too

cyclopsshooter · October 29, 2011, 07:34 PM

Ok, went back and ran seven rounds of 230gr Speer Gold Dot at 10 yards from a rest (a crappy little rest) Anyway, this is the group, the top flier might have had a little flinch behind it and just to make one more excuse the front sight post darn near covered the black center of the target..

Round Count: 277

cyclopsshooter · October 29, 2011, 08:00 PM

slow afternoon here in the shop- another 50 ball

round count: 327

No Quarter · October 29, 2011, 11:58 PM

Seems like she is purring away.

I ran 150 rounds through my stainless combat commander today. Had a ball!

Boringly consistent. Figured the gun runs better with white lithium grease on the rails than the CLP or Ballistol i have been using.

Saw a Talo Night Defender (Colt) show up lightly used in the gun case today. I intend to go back Monday and make that momma MINE.

Please keep the updates coming. I am enjoying this thread.

cyclopsshooter · October 30, 2011, 12:45 AM

I had one of those Talo Night Defenders in the shop about a year ago- Sweet little pistol it is-

Hmmm.. rather sore tonight in the lower joint of my right thumb Metacarpal.. Wonder how that happened?..

By the way, please FEEL FREE to post photos of your favorite "Colt" 1911 shooter.

cyclopsshooter · October 31, 2011, 02:33 AM

Knew I had an extra 5" barrel in a box somewhere... You thinkin what I'm thinkin?

cyclopsshooter · November 1, 2011, 01:55 AM

50 rounds today, first 8 went down the 5" barrel for testing of fit- seems the barrel likes a Wilson #4 link , had to narrow the the hood a bit. All 50 went without malfunction, should send the barrel off soon to get threaded.

Round count : 377

para38super · November 1, 2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclopsshooter

youre right, its absolutely a mag issue- the pistol has been perfect using a host of mags proven in my other colts. the factory mags that came with the piece have very smooth bodies, im inclined to think its the springs. hopefully someday soon ill quit being lazy and order those wolf +5% springs.

I had the same problem with my Colt 8rd mags, but cured the problem with Wolff +5% springs. They pretty much became power mags. Do your mags have the skirted follower or do they have the devel follower(shooting star follower)? Can you post some pics, I was told those skirted follower mags use propietary springs from Checkmate.

By the way nice Colt you have there, I have a government model and pretty happy with it. I have had a couple issues with mags, but when running good mags it runs perfect. I use Colt 7rd and Wilson 7rd for carry.

Greg528iT · November 1, 2011, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Knew I had an extra 5" barrel in a box somewhere... You thinkin what I'm thinkin?

I'd think that as well. but, how does that barrel seat in the bushing? There should be a slight taper to the barrel at the tip that nests to the bushing and keeps the barrel pointed straight fwd.

cyclopsshooter · November 1, 2011, 05:41 PM

Greg, the barrel seats well but i do not recall having a taper, the barrel is a take off from an older colt 1991a1.

Installed my novak trijicons today

FIRED 6 ROUNDS OF FEDERAL +P

ROUND COUNT: 383

Edit- The 91a1 barrel has no taper

cyclopsshooter · November 1, 2011, 09:31 PM

11/1/11 Got my first STUPID SCRATCHES today ... Sat the slide down on the workbench without noticing the metal filings near the vise.. then gave it a gentle nudge to make room for an emergency customer bore-sight...

Bound to happen sooner or later but hoped to hold it off longer..

dcarch · November 2, 2011, 10:31 AM

Oops.
I got my first idiot mark the first time I tried to put the slide stop back in.

Greg528iT · November 2, 2011, 10:35 AM

It might just be a Springfield design. My (2) 5" Springers have a neck down just aft of the barrel end. Like the bigger taper of the Bull barrels, but very slight. I see how such a taper would allow the barrel to pivot on the link easier, when the slide retracts, but allows a very snug fit when in battery.

cyclopsshooter · November 2, 2011, 02:50 PM

The 70 series Colts and the earlier 80 series have a taper too.

cyclopsshooter · November 3, 2011, 10:34 PM

I am just amazed at the trigger on this piece- Glass breakingly crisp... I wish I could find out how a factory production 80 series trigger can be this clean..

I don't have an accurate way to measure the weight but my gut says 4 lbs - its no 70 series Gold Cup but there is NO creep-

Dammit... Now I got it in my head to detail strip in again to take a closer look.. brb

The sear and disconnector are most definitely MIM but the sear contact surface seems to be pretty smooth and the wear marks from the hammer hooks are even, a good sign.. The disconnector has a high polished look to it. The hammer hooks have been ground back to the same depth as the mating sear surface (note the photo gives the illusion of longer hammer hooks but that is not the case) (this is critical in a good trigger job- too often though, a home job will remove too much, do it unevenly, or both.. causing hammer follow)

The 80 series plunger levers seem to be stamp cut steel. they are polished and de-burred from the factory as well. (they are just as shiny as the disconnector but this is not seen in the photo due to their angle.)

The plunger in the slide does not seem to feel any different than other 80 series Colts that Ive handled.

Anyway... its a crisp trigger

SSN Vet · November 4, 2011, 04:15 PM

My S80 Commander is creep free, and breaks crisply at 4.75# as measured on a Lyman digital..... right out of the box.

So nice.....

cyclopsshooter · November 6, 2011, 07:41 PM

50 rounds of PMC Bronze today- using 4 Wilson 10 rounders and one no name 10 rnd mag. No malfunctions.

Round Count: 433

cyclopsshooter · November 12, 2011, 07:51 PM

Buddy of mine showed up with his Glock 19 and challenged me to a shoot- 7 rounds each- he lost

Round count 440

cyclopsshooter · November 13, 2011, 11:55 PM

Put a mag into a stump today

Round Count 448

para38super · November 14, 2011, 10:42 AM

I love hearing your updates, have you done anything to your Colt 8rd mags to make them work?

cyclopsshooter · November 14, 2011, 12:42 PM

Not yet, being lazy, still using old Colt 7 rounders and some 8 rnd wilsons...

para38super · November 14, 2011, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclopsshooter

Not yet, being lazy, still using old Colt 7 rounders and some 8 rnd wilsons...

I have been using Colt 7rd mags and Wilson mags as well. Please lets us know when you fixed them and how you fixed them.

Do your Colt 8rd mags have a teflon coated follower with a skirt or are they with out a skirt?

October 30, 2011, 12:45 AM	#33
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	I had one of those Talo Night Defenders in the shop about a year ago- Sweet little pistol it is- Hmmm.. rather sore tonight in the lower joint of my right thumb Metacarpal.. Wonder how that happened?.. By the way, please FEEL FREE to post photos of your favorite "Colt" 1911 shooter. Last edited by cyclopsshooter; November 1, 2011 at 12:41 AM.

November 1, 2011, 05:41 PM	#38
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Greg, the barrel seats well but i do not recall having a taper, the barrel is a take off from an older colt 1991a1. Installed my novak trijicons today FIRED 6 ROUNDS OF FEDERAL +P ROUND COUNT: 383 Edit- The 91a1 barrel has no taper Last edited by cyclopsshooter; November 2, 2011 at 01:31 AM.

November 1, 2011, 09:31 PM	#39
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	11/1/11 Got my first STUPID SCRATCHES today ... Sat the slide down on the workbench without noticing the metal filings near the vise.. then gave it a gentle nudge to make room for an emergency customer bore-sight... Bound to happen sooner or later but hoped to hold it off longer.. Last edited by cyclopsshooter; November 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM.

November 2, 2011, 10:31 AM	#40
dcarch Member Join Date: October 2, 2010 Location: The Hawkeye State Posts: 993	Oops. I got my first idiot mark the first time I tried to put the slide stop back in. __________________ Iowa State Code 10465A: All persons operating a truck, or other vehicle with a cab and/or cargo bay area shall be required to raise at least two fingers in cordial acknowledgment to other drivers while utilizing all public roads within the state of Iowa. This law does not apply to residents of cities with a population exceeding 7,500 persons.

November 3, 2011, 10:34 PM	#43
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	The Trigger I am just amazed at the trigger on this piece- Glass breakingly crisp... I wish I could find out how a factory production 80 series trigger can be this clean.. I don't have an accurate way to measure the weight but my gut says 4 lbs - its no 70 series Gold Cup but there is NO creep- Dammit... Now I got it in my head to detail strip in again to take a closer look.. brb The sear and disconnector are most definitely MIM but the sear contact surface seems to be pretty smooth and the wear marks from the hammer hooks are even, a good sign.. The disconnector has a high polished look to it. The hammer hooks have been ground back to the same depth as the mating sear surface (note the photo gives the illusion of longer hammer hooks but that is not the case) (this is critical in a good trigger job- too often though, a home job will remove too much, do it unevenly, or both.. causing hammer follow) The 80 series plunger levers seem to be stamp cut steel. they are polished and de-burred from the factory as well. (they are just as shiny as the disconnector but this is not seen in the photo due to their angle.) The plunger in the slide does not seem to feel any different than other 80 series Colts that Ive handled. Anyway... its a crisp trigger Last edited by cyclopsshooter; November 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM.

October 27, 2011, 08:10 PM	#26
RyeDaddy Member Join Date: November 4, 2006 Location: Hellbound in Fort Worth, TX Posts: 215	Just picked mine up today. Put 75 rounds through it right out of box without a hitch. ACCURATE! The duckbill grip safety has to go, and I'm gonna have it bob-tailed. Maybe have the slide done in black if it won't cover up the rollmarks. I really like it! Worth the wait and the money!

October 27, 2011, 08:16 PM	#27
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	NICE! Post a pic

October 29, 2011, 04:15 PM	#28
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Just ran another quick 50 at 10 yards (still not cleaned)- used the ol proven 7 rounders and the two factory 8s No malfunctions with the 7 rounders but each of the 8 round mags did the same last round vertical jam- My verdict is that Colts are reliable outa the box- no question about the pistol but be ware of the new mags Colt is putting out. On another note, I think my brass is hitting the belt clip leaving a ding.. I'm just now getting into reloading (Dillon 550) will this ding cause reloading problems? (dinged case in photo) Co-worker shot 8 more rounds while I was typing this- Round Count: 270

October 29, 2011, 07:16 PM	#29
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Couldnt help it... cleaned her for the first time at 270 rounds, she was a dirty girl with that cheap ball. Ordered some low-rise Novak night sights too

October 29, 2011, 07:34 PM	#30
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Ok, went back and ran seven rounds of 230gr Speer Gold Dot at 10 yards from a rest (a crappy little rest) Anyway, this is the group, the top flier might have had a little flinch behind it and just to make one more excuse the front sight post darn near covered the black center of the target.. Round Count: 277

October 29, 2011, 08:00 PM	#31
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	slow afternoon here in the shop- another 50 ball round count: 327

October 29, 2011, 11:58 PM	#32
No Quarter Member Join Date: May 8, 2003 Posts: 252	Seems like she is purring away. I ran 150 rounds through my stainless combat commander today. Had a ball! Boringly consistent. Figured the gun runs better with white lithium grease on the rails than the CLP or Ballistol i have been using. Saw a Talo Night Defender (Colt) show up lightly used in the gun case today. I intend to go back Monday and make that momma MINE. Please keep the updates coming. I am enjoying this thread.

October 31, 2011, 02:33 AM	#34
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Knew I had an extra 5" barrel in a box somewhere... You thinkin what I'm thinkin?

November 1, 2011, 01:55 AM	#35
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	50 rounds today, first 8 went down the 5" barrel for testing of fit- seems the barrel likes a Wilson #4 link , had to narrow the the hood a bit. All 50 went without malfunction, should send the barrel off soon to get threaded. Round count : 377

November 2, 2011, 10:35 AM	#41
Greg528iT Member Join Date: March 10, 2010 Posts: 938	It might just be a Springfield design. My (2) 5" Springers have a neck down just aft of the barrel end. Like the bigger taper of the Bull barrels, but very slight. I see how such a taper would allow the barrel to pivot on the link easier, when the slide retracts, but allows a very snug fit when in battery.

November 2, 2011, 02:50 PM	#42
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	The 70 series Colts and the earlier 80 series have a taper too.

November 4, 2011, 04:15 PM	#44
SSN Vet Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 4,987	My S80 Commander is creep free, and breaks crisply at 4.75# as measured on a Lyman digital..... right out of the box. So nice..... __________________ _____________________________________________ ain't no slack in Fast Attack! Maine Constitution Article 1, Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.

November 6, 2011, 07:41 PM	#45
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	50 rounds of PMC Bronze today- using 4 Wilson 10 rounders and one no name 10 rnd mag. No malfunctions. Round Count: 433

November 12, 2011, 07:51 PM	#46
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Buddy of mine showed up with his Glock 19 and challenged me to a shoot- 7 rounds each- he lost Round count 440

November 13, 2011, 11:55 PM	#47
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Put a mag into a stump today Round Count 448

November 14, 2011, 10:42 AM	#48
para38super Member Join Date: August 30, 2011 Posts: 39	I love hearing your updates, have you done anything to your Colt 8rd mags to make them work?

November 14, 2011, 12:42 PM	#49
cyclopsshooter Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: The Shadow Knows... Posts: 2,189	Not yet, being lazy, still using old Colt 7 rounders and some 8 rnd wilsons...