Be on the lookout for stolen guns - Page 5

oldcelt · November 29, 2012, 03:22 PM

Guns are prime targets. About Nov. 23 regional news out of Hartford Ct. Bridgeport truck driver steals 111 handguns from Smith& Wesson factory. He and his friend sold some, the police recovered 28. Heard no more since. I guess these guys were not too bright.

RangeDS · November 30, 2012, 08:30 AM

odorf, you need to look into DataDots. It is amazing technology. I have it on my XD, my Mtn bike, dirt bike, and many other items that I own. They are a microscopic dots that adhere to a product. That is the best way to get your stolen goods returned to you once recovered by the police. 100% conviction rate for thieves caught with products that have the Dots on them. Each Dot uniquely identifies the item to its rightful owner. It's about to go like wildfire in the U.S. auto industry and Lowes HI will have it in some of their FL stores soon.

Kyle1965 · December 7, 2012, 10:07 PM

If you submit serial numbers to the police, go back in and check them often. Had 5 guns stolen years ago. Go back in to check, one not in the system anymore. Had them put it back in and a couple of years later it showed up fixing to be auctioned by the police. Had another recovered by the ATF. Did not call me. When I inquired with the ATF the response I got was "didn't insurance take care of it". Finally when they realized I was not going away, they told me they destroyed it and it was a mistake and they were sorry. I asked for documentation, still waiting. Tried to put the number back in and no one will do it.

wolf695 · December 8, 2012, 02:33 PM

We have a big problem with this as well, In fact its been going on for many years now! Good luck, tell the the state police and the batf! They will help you track them down, if they show up! Also you may want to contact local gun smiths to see if they tried to order new recievers for any of them.

soonerfan85 · December 10, 2012, 06:02 PM

I was talking to a local deputy sherrif at a gun auction earlier this year about some of the really high end firearms up for auction. Don't know if it's this way anywhere else, but he said that if the owner can't provide a serial number to prove ownership they have to auction off recovered firearms. Didn't buy any myself as the prices being paid were insane. A backround check and FFL transfer fee were required so no felons buying them, just people with more money than sense.

saltydog452 · December 10, 2012, 09:43 PM

Electricity may move at light speed, but human responses do not.

Even if you have access to a computerized list, it could take months before the stolen item is listed. Lots of lag time there.

Next, who is the owner? If an insurance claim was paid, the new rightful owner is now a Insurance Company.

Cliff Notes version is that the Police or an insurance company aren't likely to function as a 'lost and found'. Kinda doubtful if either would spend the resources to ensure that a stolen firearn gets back to its prior owner. A Remington sculpture maybe, a Remington firearm, not likely.

salty

Double Naught Spy · December 28, 2012, 10:51 PM

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I was talking to a buddy policeman. he told me the best thing you can do is to take the butt plate off and dab a little minwax polyurethane on the wood
then stick your thumb print in it. let dry. record your serial numbers
they can grind out the serial numbers. but he said 9 out of 10 will not pull the plate . then when the gun is picked up. the proof is there

Who is going to pull the buttplates on a gun with the serial numbers ground off? That probably won't ever happen and the gun won't ever be recovered.

reggie_love · December 31, 2012, 01:08 AM

The thought of my guns in the hands of some unscrupulous stranger makes my stomach turn. Hope they catch the guys!

Clean97GTI · January 18, 2013, 08:53 PM

at my old townhouse, I had a small floor safe that was poured in place with concrete. It would accommodate every handgun I owned at the time. The handguns all went in there when I would leave town along with various important papers.

The long guns got a good size aircraft cable through the actions and that went around the chimney pipe that ran up through the closet (behind drywall) in the master bedroom. Not fool proof but they weren't going to be carted off that easily.

Deadman644 · January 31, 2013, 03:22 PM

If we would put anyone who commits a gun related felony, or anyone who is a third timer in a steel box with the door welded shut, and no outside contact we wouldn't have any crime in a short time. If a person can't live within the laws of society they need to be removed from society.

larryh1108 · January 31, 2013, 04:42 PM

I am a believer in doing the time if you do the crime and for losing your rights in the process. However, the jails are so full that criminals get off in half the time with the 1 day off for 1 day of good behavior cookie. If the sentence is 10 years, they're out in 5 unless they are badder bad boys. I say 10 is 10 and I also say add 10 hard to any crime that has a firearm present whether used or not. If it involves a gun, 100% plus 10 should deter a lot of people from carrying a piece with them as they do their carnage.

Z28500 · February 17, 2013, 01:52 PM

Just a thought, but if he thinks he knows who it was, why not just get some friends together and kinda keep that guy under surveillance without him knowing and take pictures of him if he has guns with him? I know- something like that isn't easy, I was only thinking of what I might do. In reality, the thief needs to be punished

severely
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raa-7 · March 18, 2013, 07:33 PM

Hate to hear about things like that. it'll somehow get back to them or whoever did it ! Yep ! Also being that so many were taken,they might have already slipped up somehow,like if they sell them to someone that is not that slick,that person might screw up and sell one or two,whatever,,to the wrong person or people etc.The word is out ...

snakebite13 · March 23, 2013, 02:34 PM

I really understand the stolen gun crap! I lost over a dozen hand guns and rifles and two over and under shot guns to house thief. They came in the back door and rensacked my home from one end to the other. My wife and I had other smaller items taken also. Ends up it was my step son and his drug buddies. I never saw any of my guns again. They still hang a horse thief!

November 30, 2012, 08:30 AM	#102
RangeDS Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 35	odorf, you need to look into DataDots. It is amazing technology. I have it on my XD, my Mtn bike, dirt bike, and many other items that I own. They are a microscopic dots that adhere to a product. That is the best way to get your stolen goods returned to you once recovered by the police. 100% conviction rate for thieves caught with products that have the Dots on them. Each Dot uniquely identifies the item to its rightful owner. It's about to go like wildfire in the U.S. auto industry and Lowes HI will have it in some of their FL stores soon. __________________ - - - Range Development Services

December 8, 2012, 02:33 PM	#104
wolf695 Member Join Date: November 21, 2011 Posts: 75	understand We have a big problem with this as well, In fact its been going on for many years now! Good luck, tell the the state police and the batf! They will help you track them down, if they show up! Also you may want to contact local gun smiths to see if they tried to order new recievers for any of them.

January 18, 2013, 08:53 PM	#109
Clean97GTI Member Join Date: February 29, 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,300	at my old townhouse, I had a small floor safe that was poured in place with concrete. It would accommodate every handgun I owned at the time. The handguns all went in there when I would leave town along with various important papers. The long guns got a good size aircraft cable through the actions and that went around the chimney pipe that ran up through the closet (behind drywall) in the master bedroom. Not fool proof but they weren't going to be carted off that easily. __________________ Libertarian Socialism - the true heir of the enlightenment.

January 31, 2013, 04:42 PM	#111
larryh1108 Member Join Date: August 29, 2008 Location: Litchfield County, CT Posts: 1,193	I am a believer in doing the time if you do the crime and for losing your rights in the process. However, the jails are so full that criminals get off in half the time with the 1 day off for 1 day of good behavior cookie. If the sentence is 10 years, they're out in 5 unless they are badder bad boys. I say 10 is 10 and I also say add 10 hard to any crime that has a firearm present whether used or not. If it involves a gun, 100% plus 10 should deter a lot of people from carrying a piece with them as they do their carnage. __________________ Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

February 17, 2013, 01:52 PM	#112
Z28500 Member Join Date: February 17, 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 1	Just a thought, but if he thinks he knows who it was, why not just get some friends together and kinda keep that guy under surveillance without him knowing and take pictures of him if he has guns with him? I know- something like that isn't easy, I was only thinking of what I might do. In reality, the thief needs to be punishedseverely Z __________________ Luke 22:36

November 29, 2012, 03:22 PM	#101
oldcelt Member Join Date: January 11, 2012 Posts: 66	Guns are prime targets. About Nov. 23 regional news out of Hartford Ct. Bridgeport truck driver steals 111 handguns from Smith& Wesson factory. He and his friend sold some, the police recovered 28. Heard no more since. I guess these guys were not too bright.

December 7, 2012, 10:07 PM	#103
Kyle1965 Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5	If you submit serial numbers to the police, go back in and check them often. Had 5 guns stolen years ago. Go back in to check, one not in the system anymore. Had them put it back in and a couple of years later it showed up fixing to be auctioned by the police. Had another recovered by the ATF. Did not call me. When I inquired with the ATF the response I got was "didn't insurance take care of it". Finally when they realized I was not going away, they told me they destroyed it and it was a mistake and they were sorry. I asked for documentation, still waiting. Tried to put the number back in and no one will do it.

December 10, 2012, 06:02 PM	#105
soonerfan85 Member Join Date: July 5, 2012 Location: Arkansas' Original BOOMtown Posts: 176	I was talking to a local deputy sherrif at a gun auction earlier this year about some of the really high end firearms up for auction. Don't know if it's this way anywhere else, but he said that if the owner can't provide a serial number to prove ownership they have to auction off recovered firearms. Didn't buy any myself as the prices being paid were insane. A backround check and FFL transfer fee were required so no felons buying them, just people with more money than sense.

December 10, 2012, 09:43 PM	#106
saltydog452 Member Join Date: August 1, 2004 Posts: 1,577	Electricity may move at light speed, but human responses do not. Even if you have access to a computerized list, it could take months before the stolen item is listed. Lots of lag time there. Next, who is the owner? If an insurance claim was paid, the new rightful owner is now a Insurance Company. Cliff Notes version is that the Police or an insurance company aren't likely to function as a 'lost and found'. Kinda doubtful if either would spend the resources to ensure that a stolen firearn gets back to its prior owner. A Remington sculpture maybe, a Remington firearm, not likely. salty

December 31, 2012, 01:08 AM	#108
reggie_love Member Join Date: December 15, 2012 Posts: 39	The thought of my guns in the hands of some unscrupulous stranger makes my stomach turn. Hope they catch the guys!

January 31, 2013, 03:22 PM	#110
Deadman644 Member Join Date: December 7, 2012 Posts: 7	If we would put anyone who commits a gun related felony, or anyone who is a third timer in a steel box with the door welded shut, and no outside contact we wouldn't have any crime in a short time. If a person can't live within the laws of society they need to be removed from society.

March 18, 2013, 07:33 PM	#113
raa-7 Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 142	Hate to hear about things like that. it'll somehow get back to them or whoever did it ! Yep ! Also being that so many were taken,they might have already slipped up somehow,like if they sell them to someone that is not that slick,that person might screw up and sell one or two,whatever,,to the wrong person or people etc.The word is out ...

March 23, 2013, 02:34 PM	#114
snakebite13 Member Join Date: January 31, 2013 Posts: 2	Been There I really understand the stolen gun crap! I lost over a dozen hand guns and rifles and two over and under shot guns to house thief. They came in the back door and rensacked my home from one end to the other. My wife and I had other smaller items taken also. Ends up it was my step son and his drug buddies. I never saw any of my guns again. They still hang a horse thief!