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Old March 10, 2012, 06:39 PM   #1
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Anyone seen a nagant revolver like this, what do I have?

I picked this up yesterday and cannot find any information on it. The nickle plating is original (verified by a proffesional) And on the side plate it does not have the arsenal stamp or year or manufacture. It also has a plaque on the grip with some russian writing. Thank you for looking.

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Old March 10, 2012, 06:42 PM   #2
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It looks like some commemorative piece or something that'd get given to an officer or something. Never seen anything like it...

Probably worth a pretty penny.
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Old March 10, 2012, 07:16 PM   #3
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It looks like some commemorative piece or something that'd get given to an officer or something. Never seen anything like it...

Probably worth a pretty penny.
I cant find the mark thats on the side plate anywhere. Ive searched using every phrase I can think of online and no luck.
Can anyone translate the wrighting on the grip?

Thanks, Scott.
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Old March 10, 2012, 07:21 PM   #4
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Gonna have to have a better photo then that to read it, let alone translate it.

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Old March 10, 2012, 08:00 PM   #5
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Here's a (slightly) better view:



The circular emblem looks like a hammer and sickle on a globe, surrounded by wheat sheaves, over a field, or perhaps a sunrise?

Do you have a flatbed scanner? Just lay the gun on the scanner and run it like you're scanning a sheet of paper, it usually works quite well.
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Old March 10, 2012, 08:05 PM   #6
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I don't know but that sure is a cool piece of history! I'd hang on to it.
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Old March 10, 2012, 08:12 PM   #7
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Here's a (slightly) better view:





Do you have a flatbed scanner? Just lay the gun on the scanner and run it like you're scanning a sheet of paper, it usually works quite well.
Wouldn't it be cool if after making the scan, we could just make endless extra copies?
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Old March 10, 2012, 08:29 PM   #8
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Looks like it might be an Honorary Presentation Weapon from the early years (1920's) of the Soviet Union. Your scans are terrible, so I can't make out the writing, but it does appear to be Cyrillic.

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Old March 10, 2012, 08:41 PM   #9
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I've got someone who could translate if you can get a readable pic. Maybe hit it with a little talc to make the letters stand out.

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Old March 10, 2012, 09:03 PM   #10
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What a great find. I never saw one quite like that.
My Nagant came out of the Tula factory in 1930 and I love the quirky little thing.
If you have a lathe .223s cut down and sized in .30 carbine dies will give cheap brass.
You will have to turn a small portion down near the base but it leaves a rim that works fine.
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Old March 10, 2012, 09:12 PM   #11
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Looks like it might be an Honorary Presentation Weapon from the early years (1920's) of the Soviet Union. Your scans are terrible, so I can't make out the writing, but it does appear to be Cyrillic.

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Here is a picture of what the lettering is and a better picture of the plaque.
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Old March 10, 2012, 10:00 PM   #12
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Wow, that is very different. I think you have a rare find there. Like said above, it is probably a presentation piece which means it could be one of a kind or one of very few.
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Old March 10, 2012, 10:25 PM   #13
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CCCP = USSR

November 15, 1939


Now somebody who can really read Russian please do the rest.
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Old March 11, 2012, 04:18 AM   #14
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Hello. The marking on the side plate is the USSR coat of arms. As for the plate - your version of it doesn't make any sense - sorry. You mixed Cyrillic with English letters. I can translate the text, but for that I will need a bigger and more contrast picture. As for "PBC CCCP" - it may stand for Revolutionary Military Council of USSR, but the RMC was dissolved in 1934. This revolver is a reward weapon, not a presentation piece and might have some significant value.

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Old March 11, 2012, 07:10 AM   #15
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My wife is Russian. She can make little sense of the photo or transcription - you've got most of the cyrillic letters wrong.

But it's..

1st line: Tovarisch (comrade) (abbreviated form) followed probably by a name. If you could transcribe the letters accurately or get a better photo, she could ID the name.

2nd line: To "an organization..." she can't make out what organization because again, the letters are transcribed poorly.

3rd line: Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR.

4th line: K. E. Voroshilov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kliment_Voroshilov

The linked Wiki article has the name as K Y Voroshilov, but in Russian the middle name Yefremovich is spelled with an E and he was the chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council.

Edited to add: Maybe just use some white crayon to bring out the lettering? The wife says you'll never get the transcription correct because it's in script rather than block letters.

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Old March 11, 2012, 07:52 AM   #16
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can't wait to get all of the info on this. seems to have everyone stummped.
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Old March 11, 2012, 08:26 AM   #17
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I will work on getting a better picture today. Thank you for all the help.
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Old March 11, 2012, 10:22 AM   #18
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meanwhile, what's the story on how you got the thing?
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Old March 11, 2012, 10:26 AM   #19
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meanwhile, what's the story on how you got the thing?
It was a gift from a friend who owns a gun store. He said in 40+ years he had never seen one like it. He thought it would be a nice piece for my collection.
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Old March 11, 2012, 11:17 AM   #20
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Neat old gun. I hope you can get a good translation of the inscriptions. I could use a friend like yours who owns a gun store! Keep shootin'
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Old March 11, 2012, 11:36 AM   #21
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Is this better? I am working on some hd pictures to post.
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Old March 11, 2012, 12:37 PM   #22
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Fascinating. Even if it had zero collector value, that is really nifty. Just as interesting would be the story of how such an unusual firearm came to your location in all these years, war trophy, smuggled with an immigrant, interesting.
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Old March 11, 2012, 02:46 PM   #23
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KodiakBeer got most of it translated. The text translate to English as follows:

comrade Navrodski
from People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs
and the chairmen of the Revolutionary Military Council of USSR
Kliment Yefremovich Voroshilov

tov/arish/ Navrodskamu
ot Narkomvoenmora
i pred/sedateliam/ RVS SSSR
K. E. Voroshilova

It seems that you have some quite interesting and rare revolver, given by a very famous and of high rank Russian official. Congratulations.

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Old March 11, 2012, 03:47 PM   #24
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Here are some good pictures.
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Old March 11, 2012, 03:53 PM   #25
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Do you think this has any real value? I am not selling but more for insurance purposes.
Thank you
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